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¡Hola!

Si se pregunta quién soy, soy Twofortnights y he trabajado en artículos sobre requisitos y políticas de visas desde septiembre de 2013. Los he mejorado mucho (sin falsa modestia, solo revise el historial de esos artículos) desde un estado horrendo de falta de referencias, plaga de enlaces de spam, información incompleta e información desactualizada por varios años y violaciones de derechos de autor, y advertí a los administradores con éxito sobre numerosos casos de vandalismo que resultaron en al menos una docena de acciones de administración.

Aquí está la lista de artículos en los que he trabajado.

Lamento cualquier posible error en la tabla anterior, he hecho lo mejor que he podido.

Además, he creado todos los mapas respectivos y también los mapas de todos los demás artículos.

Todos estos artículos tienen miles de lectores cada mes, como lo confirman las estadísticas de tráfico de artículos de Wikipedia. Muchos de estos artículos no fueron fáciles de escribir, ya que muchos países del tercer mundo no publican sus políticas de visas ni notifican los cambios a las organizaciones internacionales. A menudo tienen políticas confusas o información inconsistente. Pero aún así, he logrado escribirlos y, como he notado, muchos de ellos se están traduciendo recientemente a otros idiomas, como el turco o el chino.

¿Y qué pasó? Primero, eche un vistazo a La insoportable burocracia de Wikipedia, el último artículo sobre algo de lo que se habla en Internet desde hace tiempo. Y lo más irónico es que yo he seguido esta burocracia casi al pie de la letra, pero no ha sido suficiente.


Ahora un poco sobre el caso específico que desencadenó esto (para todos aquellos a quienes no les gusta la vaguedad y el enfoque filosófico sino las historias concretas). Como dije, he luchado contra el vandalismo en muchas páginas (por ejemplo, los requisitos de visa para ciudadanos de Singapur experimentaron un vandalismo tan persistente que estará bloqueado durante los próximos 6 meses) y este fue solo otro caso. O eso pensé. Un vándalo apuntó a la política de visas de China y a los mapas de requisitos de visas para ciudadanos chinos. Sus acciones pueden describirse como el llamado vandalismo furtivo o jugar con el sistema . Editó los mapas de Wikimedia Commons con resúmenes de edición que explicaban cómo la fuente de sus ediciones está en Wikipedia. Obviamente esas eran mentiras, su versión del mapa alteraría tanto las imágenes que ni siquiera corresponderían a la leyenda del archivo, y mucho menos al contenido del artículo. Después de no poder evitar que vandalizara esos archivos de imagen, cargué archivos alternativos con nombres muy claros y detallados, pero eso no ayudó mucho.

Bueno, ya basta de detalles del caso. ¿Qué pasó después?

Hice todo según el libro, hice todas estas cosas tratando la situación como una mera edición disruptiva sin jamás emitirle al vándalo una advertencia real de vandalismo:

¿Cuál fue la respuesta del administrador a mi informe? Decidieron bloquearme a mí y al vándalo por igual tiempo. En una especie de respuesta perezosa, inexplicable y retorcida. La que plantea una pregunta si no quieres involucrarte en los méritos del caso: ¿por qué te involucras o por qué eres un administrador en primer lugar? ¿Pueden esos administradores responder a una pregunta simple: qué beneficio obtiene Wikipedia de sus acciones? Sin mencionar los otros giros donde la eliminación de plantillas de mantenimiento se etiquetó como "disputa de contenido". La plantilla de mantenimiento que fue eliminada por el vándalo era exactamente la plantilla que señalaba que hay una disputa en el artículo y llamaba a una discusión en la página de discusión. Deshacer un vándalo que estaba eliminando esas plantillas (y agregando un archivo de imagen vandalizado) fue todo empaquetado como una "disputa de contenido". Mhm.

Un administrador incluso intentó hacer que el cumplimiento de la burocracia de resolución de disputas fuera un error en sí mismo. Me regañaron por ser yo quien agregó la plantilla de mantenimiento. No me explicaron cómo era posible que fuera un error. En realidad, no me explicaron nada, nunca se abordó ninguno de los problemas planteados, en lugar de eso, siempre me encontré con lugares comunes repetitivos una y otra vez.

Sin embargo, traté de mantener la calma y presenté una solicitud oficial de desbloqueo presentando la situación claramente, esperando que alguien se molestara en investigarla.

Pero aquí es donde entra en juego la burocracia. Mi solicitud fue rechazada porque, bueno, era una "disputa de contenido". Sí, hay una plantilla con la que puedes advertir a otro usuario que podría ser bloqueado por eliminar plantillas de mantenimiento, pero si realmente le pides a un administrador que lo haga, te bloquean y eso está bien porque es una "disputa de contenido". Debes buscar una resolución a través de la página de discusión y la comunicación con otro usuario. Pero cuando haces eso y el vándalo lo ignora, te bloquean y eso está bien porque es una "disputa de contenido".

¿Y qué significa "disputa de contenido"? ¿Incluso si fuera el caso? ¿Se pueden vandalizar archivos de imagen con un resumen de edición falso y eso no es vandalismo sino una "disputa de contenido"? No, no lo es. Dejemos los eufemismos y llamemos a las cosas por su nombre. "Disputa de contenido" es una excusa para los administradores vagos. He hecho todo lo posible para resolverlo como una disputa de contenido aunque no lo fuera, desde advertencias hasta plantillas de mantenimiento e intentos de discutir cosas en la página de discusión. Y me bloquearon como si no hubiera hecho nada de eso, de la misma manera que bloquearon al vándalo que ignoró todas mis acciones para la resolución de la disputa.

Ya basta de hablar del caso.


Wikipedia no tiene medidas efectivas para luchar contra el vandalismo. Ninguna en absoluto. Los administradores perezosos pueden descartar cualquier cosa como "disputa de contenido" sin siquiera molestarse en leer más allá de las primeras letras. Tratar de resolver los problemas según las reglas no tendrá ningún valor al final. Serás castigado de la misma manera que alguien que no hizo nada de eso. No te molestes en resolver disputas, no, en serio, no te molestes en hacerlo. Te quitará mucha energía y no servirá de nada. Nadie lo apreciará y, no solo eso, incluso te insultarán.

Al parecer, es más fácil silenciar a los usuarios que han invertido cientos de horas en mejorar Wikipedia. ¿A dónde nos lleva esto? Basta con buscar Wikipedia en Google para conocer las últimas noticias. Esto conduce al declive de este gran sitio web. La calidad de los aportes disminuye cada día. Es la triste realidad y hay que hacer algo al respecto rápidamente.

El objetivo de los administradores, las reglas y los burócratas debería ser mejorar Wikipedia y no imponer una igualdad retorcida entre editores dedicados y trolls. Su papel también debería ser el de ayudar a gente como yo. No soy un gran mediador o diplomático, lo admito. Vine aquí para actualizar esos artículos y eso es todo. No se puede esperar que haga su trabajo al mismo tiempo. Cuando les pregunto algo, espero una respuesta que no sea "disputa de contenido, pásalo". Y les pregunté qué más esperaban de mí, aparte de las acciones mencionadas anteriormente. Pero me dieron una bofetada con un "disputa de contenido" sordo al tono.

Otro artículo interesante de hace unos meses, Decline of Wikipedia, afirma que el número de editores activos en la Wikipedia en inglés alcanzó su punto máximo en 2007 con más de 51.000 y ha ido disminuyendo desde entonces, hasta llegar a sólo 31.000 personas el verano pasado. Gracias al sistema obsoleto y a los administradores desinteresados ​​que aún se aferran a sus puestos, el número seguramente bajará a niveles insostenibles en el próximo año o dos.

No tengo intención de permitir que alguien sentado cómodamente en su silla y sufriendo un torrente de poder en el cerebro manche mi nombre y disminuya mis esfuerzos tanto en el pasado, cuando mi arduo trabajo se encuentre con el ridículo, como en el futuro, donde no podré luchar contra el vandalismo de manera efectiva con "previamente bloqueado" en los registros.

He decidido limitar mi actividad gracias a esos administradores y su enfoque superficial. No me verán de nuevo revisando 42 artículos y actualizándolos y luego revisando 42 mapas y actualizándolos como cuando Mongolia cambió recientemente su política de visas solo para ser bloqueado el mismo día por alguien que piensa que el puesto de administrador no rinde cuentas y que no está obligado a molestarse en tratar los detalles del caso que está tratando y que todo lo que se le pide que haga es escribir una o dos oraciones con la excusa de la burocracia.

Definitivamente no voy a deshacer ningún vandalismo más. No quiero correr el riesgo de que me bloqueen por manejar mal una "disputa de contenido". Sin embargo, haré un seguimiento de todo el spam, vandalismo, borrado, adición intencional de información incorrecta - todo ello y especialmente el vandalismo furtivo. Y llevaré un registro público para que podamos ver qué acciones sirven mejor a Wikipedia, las de los vándalos y burócratas (en el sentido real y negativo de la palabra) entre los administradores o los usuarios que trabajan duro.

A estos administradores no les importa que Wikipedia esté llena de información falsa mientras la burocracia esté satisfecha. Literalmente, sólo les importan los asuntos de procedimiento.

Y, por supuesto, permítanme terminar con una nota: hay administradores excelentes y dedicados por ahí. Expliqué que en mis informes se tomaron muchas medidas. Y los felicito por su dedicación en tal atmósfera. ¡He revertido las ediciones de un vándalo en otro artículo, no tres veces, sino treinta y tres veces! Pero hubo un administrador que realmente investigó el asunto y no solo contó el número de ediciones. El resultado fue el bloqueo del otro usuario y una protección de 6 meses para el artículo. No pensó en bloquearme por cruzar matemáticamente la línea o por una guerra de ediciones cuando, de hecho, mis ediciones solo estaban deshaciendo un tipo muy similar de vandalismo furtivo. Pero para eso, un administrador no necesita ser perezoso y realmente investigar los hechos del asunto en lugar de repetir las mismas perogrulladas burocráticas vacías una y otra vez.

Gracias por leer, -- Twofortnights (discusión) 21:38 30 jun 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola Twoforfire, fue un placer hablar contigo. Hace unos días edité información sobre los requisitos de visa para ciudadanos libaneses y tú la eliminaste. Ahora son 42 los países a los que los ciudadanos libaneses pueden viajar sin visa o visa a la llegada, en lugar de 39. ¿Puedes editarlo, por favor? Además, si puedes editar el mapa, muchas gracias y te deseo un buen día.

Aquí hay una página donde el anfitrión cree que podría considerar discutir administradores problemáticos/acciones de administradores: Usuario discusión:Tony1 --BushelCandle ( discusión ) 16:24 10 jun 2018 (UTC) [ responder ]

Esquema de colores en los mapas

Entiendo a qué intentas referirte. Seguramente, el cambio de esquema de colores que intenté no es lo suficientemente importante como para resultar o equipararse al esfuerzo requerido para la implementación de tales modificaciones en todos los "Wikiproyectos". De todas formas, no estoy seguro de lo que quieres decir con "esquemas de colores basados ​​en banderas". Sin embargo, cuando revisé el historial de edición de los mapas en Wikimedia Commons, noté algunas "reversiones" de esquemas de colores, que percibí como el resultado de una pérdida de consenso o, simplemente, un error. Gracias. Whatshouldichoose ( discusión ) 13:30 19 ago 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Información errónea o sin fuentes desatendidas, incluido spam y copyvio en artículos sobre visas

Como he explicado anteriormente, no tengo intención de corregir las diversas ediciones vandálicas o la información errónea que se ha añadido a los artículos sobre visas por cualquier motivo (falta de conocimientos de inglés, uso de fuentes obsoletas, etc.). Sin embargo, haré un seguimiento de ello.

¿No debería alguien solucionar esos problemas?-- Twofortnights (discusión) 21:54 30 jun 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Seguramente se está acumulando y ya hace una semana que no deshago la adición de información sin fuentes o simplemente errónea, enlaces spam y violaciones de derechos de autor. Parece que tenía razón cuando dije que es completamente irrelevante para algunos de los administradores que Wikipedia esté llena de este tipo de problemas mientras se cumplan las exigencias burocráticas. No he notado ni una sola edición de este tipo que no haya atendido yo y que haya sido corregida por uno de los administradores que estaban tan preocupados por mí. Su preocupación por lo anterior parece ser inexistente. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 14:31 7 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]


Entonces, como no se está haciendo nada y los problemas se acumulan, tengo que etiquetarlos abiertamente: Usuario:Jpgordon y Usuario:Lord Roem ¿tienen la intención de hacer su trabajo y limpiar todo el vandalismo acumulado, el spam, la investigación original y la información errónea? Porque déjenme recordarles, las reglas de Wikipedia también prohíben el vandalismo, el spam, la investigación original y agregar deliberadamente información errónea tanto como revertir la cantidad incorrecta de veces y se espera que los administradores resuelvan problemas como esos y no solo aquellos en los que se necesitan dos clics para satisfacer la burocracia. Permítanme repetirlo una vez más: yo mismo habría eliminado todas estas tonterías como lo he estado haciendo durante meses, pero como me encontré con cero aprecio y máximo rechazo y ridículo, no tengo intención de hacerlo, sin embargo, espero que los administradores lo hagan. Considere esto como un envío personalizado a WP:RVAN , WP:NORN , WP:CP , WT:WPSPAM y WP:ELN . Gracias por su servicio.-- Twofortnights (discusión) 00:14 11 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Usuario:Jpgordon y Usuario:Lord Roem si tienen alguna pregunta técnica no duden en preguntar, pero por favor comiencen a actuar para solucionar la lista anterior de problemas acumulados lo antes posible, ha pasado solo una semana y la lista ya es demasiado larga. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 21:55 11 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
Déjame fuera de esto; mi única participación contigo fue señalar que estabas en guerra de ediciones cuando te bloquearon e insistir, equivocadamente, en que estabas corrigiendo vandalismo. Ciertamente no es mi trabajo seguir tus sugerencias de edición; hazlo tú mismo. --jpgordon ::==( o ) 22:22, 11 de julio de 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
--jpgordon - ¿Te dejo fuera de la eliminación de spam? Mientras seas administrador no lo creo. No es una tarea fácil, pero nadie te obligó a hacerlo. Como administrador, simplemente tienes que responder y eliminar al menos los enlaces de spam y las violaciones de derechos de autor y yo diría que la desinformación agregada deliberadamente también pertenece a esa lista. No son sugerencias de edición, es una solicitud de acción administrativa para abordar problemas para los que existen administradores (de ahí que existan tablones de anuncios para los mismos problemas que estoy planteando). Todos los comentarios sobre que se trata de una "disputa de contenido" son pura ironía. No puedes simplemente ignorarlo o insistir en que tenías razón, ya que nada de eso solucionará todos los problemas anteriores. Lo que se ha hecho es agua pasada, ahora debes proteger Wikipedia, es tu deber. Si crees que los enlaces de spam, las violaciones de derechos de autor y el vandalismo obvio pertenecen a Wikipedia, entonces es un mal juicio. Así que, por favor, empieza a abordar los problemas candentes, no tiene nada que ver conmigo ni contigo, se trata de Wikipedia. He enumerado todos los problemas arriba y puedes elegir por dónde empezar, pero no pierdas tiempo, como puedes ver, los spammers no se quedan de brazos cruzados y nos dejan estar cómodos, sino que añaden cantidades tan grandes de spam y desinformación que no podemos relajarnos. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 00:45 12 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
Estás equivocado sobre las responsabilidades de los administradores en este caso. Eliminar spam, violaciones de derechos de autor, etc., no es un trabajo de administrador, es un trabajo que cualquier editor de Wikipedia puede y debe hacer. Las herramientas especiales del administrador incluyen bloquear y desbloquear a otros editores (esa es la única razón por la que estaba aquí en primer lugar, para ver si tu solicitud de desbloqueo debería ser aceptada), eliminar y recuperar páginas eliminadas y otras cosas técnicas; consulta WP:ADMIN para obtener una lista más completa. No necesitas acciones administrativas; necesitas un consenso para tus cambios, y para eso están las páginas de discusión de artículos. --jpgordon ::==( o ) 01:13, 12 de julio de 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
Al menos no he confundido el trabajo de administrador con un pin de solapa. Y no creo que me equivoque al decir que cualquier cosa para la que exista un tablón de anuncios de administrador ES trabajo de administradores.
¿Necesito consenso para eliminar el spam y las violaciones de derechos de autor? ¿Es eso lo que estás diciendo? Porque eso también es un error de criterio, tan erróneo que no es necesario explicarlo.
Si no eliminas el spam y las violaciones de derechos de autor, también es un error de juicio: solo te estás vengando de mí a espaldas de Wikipedia por criticarte. ¿Es eso lo que debería hacer un administrador? Te han señalado claramente las violaciones que siguen vigentes y engañan a los lectores, pero no harás nada solo para demostrar algo. Y no es que seas un editor terriblemente ocupado, haces algunas ediciones cada dos días. Entonces, si ese es el caso, solo me darías la razón, solo te preocupan algunos asuntos de procedimiento burocráticos y los resultados reales y el estado de Wikipedia no te preocupan.
Así que, por favor, dejad de ser tan testarudos y haced algo por Wikipedia. Solucionad algunos de los numerosos problemas mencionados anteriormente. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 10:19 12 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
Por último, --jpgordon , no puedo hacerlo yo mismo, en concreto por tu falta de criterio. Obviamente dijiste que "necesitas un consenso para tus cambios, y para eso están las páginas de discusión de los artículos", para eliminar el spam y las violaciones de derechos de autor. Y no estoy de acuerdo con eso. Así que si sigo adelante y elimino eso de los artículos sin ir a la página de discusión, tengo miedo, con razón, de que uses tu herramienta especial de "bloquear y desbloquear a otros editores" en mi contra. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 10:31 12 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Usuario:Jpgordon y Usuario:Lord Roem - ahora que hemos dejado atrás los problemas personales, ¿se puede hacer algo finalmente con el spam acumulado, los derechos de autor y los errores factuales deliberados mencionados anteriormente? Si no te importa, al menos dame una respuesta concreta que no me deje colgado. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 17:04 13 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Vale, no me vas a responder. Es muy TRISTE que un administrador lo ignore y que el otro sea tan incapaz de aceptar las críticas que decide dañar a toda Wikipedia para demostrar su punto de vista y mostrar lo ofendido que está de que a alguien no le entusiasme su enfoque burocrático de tratar a los trolls y a los colaboradores de la misma manera. Mi punto de vista está demostrado más allá de toda duda. En mi crítica (que fue escrita antes de todo) la frase clave era: A esos administradores no les importa si Wikipedia está llena de información falsa mientras la burocracia loca esté satisfecha. Literalmente, solo les importan los asuntos de procedimiento. - Y mira, tenía razón, qué sorpresa. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 11:04 15 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos de visado para ciudadanos rumanos

Hola, ¿podrías actualizar el mapa para que muestre a India en amarillo como país que solicita visas en línea? No sé cómo hacerlo, pero sería una gran mejora. Muchas gracias. — Comentario anterior sin firmar agregado por 168.235.178.82 (discusión) 17:23, 3 de marzo de 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Para evitar una guerra de ediciones, he venido a tu página de discusión. Pido disculpas por cualquier inconveniente, pero: mi copia fue alterada antes de pegar. Básicamente, lo que hice fue tomar el HTML de la página de requisitos de visa alemana y usar la información de los requisitos de visa antiguos para ciudadanos rumanos (aquellos que sigues deshaciendo) insertándolos MANUALMENTE en el HTML y luego subiéndolos a la página de requisitos de visa. Esto llevó casi 3 horas de trabajo manual en Microsoft Word. Whatshouldichoose ( discusión ) 14:00, 20 de febrero de 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Como ya te he dicho, a primera vista puedo ver que no lo has hecho porque hay al menos 20 fuentes relacionadas directamente con los requisitos de visado para ciudadanos alemanes en el artículo sobre los ciudadanos rumanos. No hay mucho más que pueda decir. Sospecho que a otros editores tampoco les hará gracia, pero se lo dejo a ellos, no voy a deshacer tus modificaciones nunca más. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 14:09 20 feb 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
Mire el panorama general: he cambiado mucha información para que coincida con la información real de los ciudadanos rumanos. Como resultado de lo que ha sugerido, ahora verificaré todas las fuentes utilizando un software especial y las reemplazaré con las que coincidan con los ciudadanos rumanos en lugar de los alemanes. Gracias por su comprensión. Realmente ayuda. Whatshouldichoose ( discusión ) 14:19 20 feb 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola, el mapa de requisitos de visa necesita una actualización: Angola debería actualizarse según el último cambio en la visa a la llegada, Tanzania debería estar en verde oscuro (sin visa), al igual que Papúa Nueva Guinea (visa gratuita a la llegada). No sé cómo hacerlo, así que agradezco tu ayuda. ¡Gracias y sigue con el buen trabajo! 2601:14D:8580:370:549C:5BFE:D27A:C856 (discusión) 13:48 30 mar 2018 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola. En cuanto a Tanzania, comprobaré cuándo se modificó la política y modificaré el mapa en consecuencia. En cuanto a Papúa Nueva Guinea, no indicamos que la visa a la llegada sea sin visa en los mapas. En cuanto a Angola, estamos esperando una confirmación de que se trata de algo más que una política de visas simplificada. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 13:56 30 mar 2018 (UTC) [ responder ]

Preguntas/comentarios sobre las políticas de visas de Tailandia

Gracias por tu buen trabajo sobre las visas, pero especialmente sobre Tailandia. Estoy harto de toda la información errónea que circula, como puedes ver, y recientemente me interesé en intentar agregar información allí.

Ayer encontré la página del gobierno tailandés sobre los requisitos de visado en el sitio del Ministerio de Asuntos Exteriores. Tenía fecha de 2012 y estaba llena de errores. Busqué una versión posterior y la encontré en el sitio de la Embajada de Tailandia en Moscú, con fecha de abril de 2014. También estaba llena de errores. Hoy volví al sitio del Ministerio de Asuntos Exteriores y descubrí que ahora tiene una versión de julio de 2014, considerablemente mejorada.

Como vivo aquí, tengo la intención de intentar mantenerme al tanto de la página de visas tailandesas y espero que esto esté bien dado todo el gran trabajo que has hecho.

Mencionas a la IATA como fuente de información sobre visados. Es un gran consejo, aunque visitar su sitio no resultó muy útil. No pude encontrar información completa y concisa, solo una especie de "planificador de viajes" que requiere mucho tiempo de uso.

Gracias de nuevo, Seligne ( discusión ) 12:07 11 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

No es raro que algunos países proporcionen información desactualizada. De esa región, Malasia es el peor que se me ocurre, ya que su información oficial sobre visados ​​menciona incluso países que dejaron de existir hace décadas. Hay al menos una docena de países en el mundo con políticas de visados ​​poco claras, ya sea por fuentes contradictorias de las que no podemos estar seguros de lo que es correcto o por políticas de visados ​​extremadamente complicadas que son contradictorias entre sí.
En cuanto a IATA, aquí está la página de Tailandia, es la información que les proporciona el gobierno tailandés, parece que lo hacen regularmente - [5]
Tenga en cuenta que una de sus ediciones es una violación de derechos de autor, debe eliminar o reescribir completamente Visa_policy_of_Thailand#Visa_types .-- Twofortnights (discusión) 12:19 11 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
¡Gracias por tu rápida respuesta! Después de leer tu página de usuario, ahora comprendo mejor las dificultades que supone encontrar respuestas a preguntas aparentemente sencillas.

¡Gracias por el enlace de la IATA! Me sorprende un poco tu observación sobre los derechos de autor. Como no pude encontrar una descripción coherente de los tipos de visa tailandesa, lo que escribí es una parodia de muchos sitios diferentes, la mayoría de dominio público (es decir, sitios de embajadas tailandesas). ¿Crees que lo he copiado de Thaivisa? Saludos, Seligne ( discusión ) 23:27 11 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

No debes copiar y pegar sin citar una referencia, incluso si estás buscando en dos o tres sitios web. No estoy seguro de si las embajadas tailandesas son de dominio público, pero incluso si lo son, debes proporcionar una fuente por otras razones, como la verificabilidad. De cualquier manera, debes reescribirlo según WP:NOTGUIDE , porque contiene una redacción no enciclopédica como "Si eres soltero, tu ingreso mensual debe ser". Gracias por ser razonable :) -- Twofortnights (discusión) 00:49 12 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]


Gracias. Me está costando un poco acostumbrarme a ser "enciclopédico", ya que vengo del lado de Wikivoyage. Haré ingeniería inversa de lo que obtuve y obtendré algunas atribuciones. Agradezco tu orientación. Seligne ( discusión ) 06:35 12 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
No hay problema. Si todos como tú estuviesen tan interesados ​​en aceptar sus errores o adaptar sus habilidades, Wikipedia sería un lugar mucho mejor. Pero, por desgracia, algunas personas prefieren ser desagradables y vengativas. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 10:23 12 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
También he aprendido algo de ti hoy: Wikitravel ya no es el sitio donde hay que estar. No sabía nada de todo lo que pasó y que Wikivoyage es ahora el sitio principal. Gracias. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 10:25 12 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Espero no haberte abierto una caja de Pandora: ¡podrías pasar otro año o más actualizando la información sobre visas allí! Es bueno tener en cuenta Virginia Occidental para los enlaces en línea, etc., cuando sea apropiado. Saludos, Seligne ( discusión ) 00:12 13 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Notificación de enlace de desambiguación para el 15 de julio

Hola. Gracias por tus recientes modificaciones. Wikipedia agradece tu ayuda. Sin embargo, hemos notado que cuando editaste Naturalization , agregaste un enlace que apunta a la página de desambiguación Macedonia . Estos enlaces casi siempre son involuntarios, ya que una página de desambiguación es simplemente una lista de títulos de artículos del tipo "¿Quiso decir…?". Lee las preguntas frecuentes  • Únete a nosotros en el WikiProject de DPL .

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Enlaces web de Timatic

Supongo que podría interesarle Wikipedia:Bomba de agua de la aldea (política)/Archivo 114#enlaces a TimaticWeb . -- Joy [schallot] ( discusión ) 11:36 20 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

He compartido mi opinión. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 11:51 20 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Taiwán

Hola. Creo que las mejoras que has hecho en la página sobre los requisitos de visado para los ciudadanos británicos son excelentes. Sin embargo, he notado que has deshecho mi cambio para incluir a Taiwán como país. Sin querer entrar en demasiados detalles sobre los detalles de la cuestión de Taiwán, no creo que sea apropiado incluir a Taiwán como una "región en disputa" o "dependencia de China", etc., porque Taiwán es un destino al que van muchos viajeros internacionales y es una importante economía mundial. Además, a nivel técnico, Taiwán es la República de China , mientras que China continental es la República Popular China . Tiene vínculos diplomáticos informales con la mayoría de los países y mantiene vínculos diplomáticos formales con unos pocos. En pocas palabras, la cuestión de Taiwán no está resuelta y no creo que sea muy poco realista relegarlo a una posición inferior como una dependencia de la República Popular China. Por estas tres razones, espero que estés de acuerdo conmigo en que Taiwán debería figurar junto con los demás países. -- Île flottante ( charla ) 14:34, 20 de julio de 2014 (UTC) [ respuesta ]

Île flottante , Hola! Bueno, el tema es que sólo porque tú personalmente no piensas que el estatus de Taiwán sea disputado no significa que sea verdad. El artículo de Wikipedia sobre el estatus político de Taiwán nos dice que no sólo es disputado sino que es profundamente disputado. No es mi opinión, es la realidad. Personalmente no me importa de una manera u otra el estatus de Taiwán, pero si es disputado, es disputado, no hay nada que podamos hacer al respecto. Y finalmente como tú mismo has dicho "la cuestión de Taiwán no es una cuestión resuelta" así que es por eso que está en la zona en disputa. No significa nada más que eso, es sólo para evitar futuras disputas y dónde trazamos la línea. Una entidad sin un estatus resuelto no puede estar en el mismo grupo que los países soberanos. Deberías ver la primera lista como países indudablemente indiscutibles y la segunda lista como una lista de lugares con un estatus vago de entidad internacional soberana. Algunos, como las colonias, indudablemente no son entidades soberanas, y algunos como Taiwán no están ni aquí ni allá. Tenga en cuenta que esto no significa que Taiwán sea una "dependencia de la República Popular China", como ha sugerido. He renombrado la sección como "Territorios dependientes, en disputa o restringidos" para dejar en claro que hay varias cosas allí, no solo territorios. Sin embargo, veo que puede causar confusión, por lo que podríamos separarlos más. ¿Quizás le parezca más apropiado? Algo como esto Requisitos_de_visado_para_ciudadanos_rusos # Países_no_reconocidos_o_parcialmente_reconocidos . Definitivamente cubriría ambos problemas, la necesidad de incluir un estado con estatus no resuelto por separado, pero también la necesidad de incluirlo de tal manera que no sugiera que es una entidad de China. Por favor, hágamelo saber. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 14:53 20 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
Creo que tal vez el reconocimiento internacional de un país, o incluso la falta de él, no debería ser un factor a la hora de organizar las listas. Más bien, sugeriría que se enumeraran las diferentes políticas de inmigración, es decir, todos los lugares que tienen sus propias regulaciones sobre inmigración . Sin embargo, puedo ver el problema de que lugares como los Territorios Británicos de Ultramar pueden ser problemáticos: hay muchos de ellos, algunos de ellos no tienen habitantes o tienen muy pocos, y algunos reciben una cantidad insignificante de visitantes. Tal vez por eso los países con dependencias indiscutibles tengan un asterisco al lado, indicando al lector que consulte una sección adicional sobre "Territorios dependientes", y que dichas dependencias indiscutibles no se incluyan en la lista principal. Creo también que si comparas el número de habitantes de los diversos países de la lista de "Territorios dependientes, en disputa o restringidos", verás que la población de Taiwán es inusualmente grande. En definitiva, creo que sería una manera de despolitizar el asunto, ya que no estaríamos enumerando países, sino sistemas de inmigración. -- Île flottante ( discusión ) 20:28 20 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
Sí, pero no es tan sencillo como se podría pensar. Algunos países comparten un sistema de inmigración con otros países, mientras que otros tienen más de un sistema de inmigración (a veces incluso podría ser la misma política de visados, pero más de una autoridad, como en el caso de Malasia). Todo eso confundiría al lector medio: ¿dónde está Austria? ¿Dónde está Alemania? Ah, bajo el espacio Schengen. ¿Dónde está Malasia? Ah, mira, hay dos Malasias. ¿Dónde está China? Aquí está, pero espera, hay un asterisco, ¿por qué? Entiendes lo que quiero decir. Si sólo fuera Taiwán, sería fácil resolverlo de alguna manera. Pero no lo es. Y el hecho es que no hay nada fácticamente incorrecto en decir que Taiwán es un territorio en disputa. Creo que la forma más sencilla de resolver el problema que has planteado es separar las dependencias de los territorios en disputa o "países no reconocidos o parcialmente reconocidos", como dice el otro artículo. Cualquier otra cosa haría que fuera demasiado extraño y difícil de entender para los nuevos editores, por lo que evitarían profundizar en el tema y, por supuesto, para que los lectores lo entiendan. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 21:30 20 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Taiwán solicita visa de 30 días para aterrizar en el aeropuerto a los ciudadanos turcos. La información que proporcionaste es incorrecta. — Comentario anterior sin firmar agregado por 60.53.226.152 (discusión) 01:36, 1 julio 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Re: Tipo de pasaporte

No creo que me haya topado con ese problema todavía. ¿Puedes darme un par de ejemplos en los que exista esa distinción? -- Joy [schallot] ( discusión ) 20:16 22 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Ah, a juzgar por el ejemplo de Azerbaiyán, te refieres a los enlaces de la base de datos de texto completo, https://www.timaticweb.com/cgi-bin/tim_website_client.cgi?FullText=1&COUNTRY=<countrycode>&SECTION=VI&SUBSECTION=<something>&user=<something>&subuser=<something> Lo he pensado: podría ser tan fácil como agregar un solo parámetro para indicar este modo. Pero también hay otra forma popular de enlaces de bases de datos de texto completo, https://www.timaticweb.com/cgi-bin/tim_client.cgi?ExpertMode=TIDFT/<something>&user=<something>&subuser=<something> - probablemente necesitemos una decisión de contenido sobre eso primero... Es decir, se puede vincular cualquiera de los dos, o incluso ambos, pero no sé cuál debería vincularse. -- Joy [chalota] ( discusión ) 20:35 22 jul 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Agosto de 2014

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Política de visados ​​de Nauru

Estoy de acuerdo con lo que dijiste. Saqué el cuadro de información e hice una sección separada para el mapa. También agregué una leyenda. (No estoy seguro si quieres continuar la conversación en mi página de discusión, en tu página de discusión o como está ahora).— Michael Jester ( discusión · contribuciones ) 22:43, 26 de agosto de 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Mapas

Hola, Twofortnights. Cuando miro las políticas y requisitos de visado de los países, me llaman la atención los mapas que has subido y actualizado. En primer lugar, tengo que decir que el mapa que estás usando está preparado de forma muy amateur. Según un mapa erróneo, Islandia y Groenlandia pertenecen a Noruega , Cerdeña a Francia , Chipre a Grecia , Malta a Italia , Dinamarca a Suecia , Reino Unido a Francia  :) , ¿las Islas Malvinas a Argentina ? Además, la Unión Europea no debería utilizarse como un único país, ya que todos los países no son miembros de Schengen. ¿Qué opinas de esto? Maurice Flesier ( discusión ) 23:50 6 septiembre 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Usuario: Maurice Flesier - esos mapas se usan en toda Wikipedia. No muestran ninguna de las tonterías que has dicho. Por ejemplo, ni siquiera muestran territorios más pequeños que no son relevantes para el tema, como las Islas Malvinas, y afirmas que el mapa las muestra como parte de Argentina. Podría mostrar Tierra del Fuego  ;) En cuanto al resto, no puedo creer que esa sea la conclusión a la que has llegado. La razón por la que esos mapas están hechos así es para que se puedan pintar con un solo clic. No se supone que sean 100% geográficamente correctos, hay muchos "errores" en el mapa, como que Azerbaiyán se muestra como una sola pieza a pesar de tener un enclave, o que no se muestra Hawái. Esto se debe a que esos mapas no se supone que muestren geografía de todos modos, por supuesto que no deberían mostrar algunas tierras de fantasía, pero las pequeñas discrepancias no son relevantes. Y no, no sugieren que Islandia sea parte de Noruega o que Chipre sea parte de Grecia (que es probablemente la razón por la que me estás contactando, ya que eres turco y el resto de las tonterías como sugerir que el Reino Unido es parte de Francia es una cortina de humo pobre), pero simplemente están conectados con una línea para que toda la UE sea un bloque de píxeles (sí, esos mapas unificados se usan solo cuando se muestra toda la UE, no hay un solo mapa donde Chipre esté conectado a Grecia y donde el resto de la UE se muestre por separado). Soy plenamente consciente de que no todos los estados son miembros de Schengen, por lo que cuando se trata de mapas de requisitos de visado, el Reino Unido e Irlanda se muestran por separado. Cuando se trata de políticas de visado, se muestran juntas si un país tiene una política de visado única para los ciudadanos de la UE, lo que es bastante común en estos días, varias docenas de países la tienen. De todos modos, volviendo a tu preocupación real, la línea que conecta los píxeles de Chipre y los píxeles de la UE pasando por Grecia, puede pasar por Malta o Italia si eso te hace feliz, pero te aseguro que quienes hicieron el mapa en blanco no tenían planes siniestros, solo eligieron la ruta más corta. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 07:54 7 sep 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
Por favor, cuando negocie, respete las reglas de Wikipedia, especialmente WP:NPA y WP:EQ . ¿Puede explicarme "cuál es probablemente el motivo por el que se pone en contacto conmigo, ya que es turco" ? Este tema tiene que ver con mi identidad étnica. Sí, los mapas son objeto de muchas controversias. La República de Chipre no es miembro de la República de Shengen e Islandia aún no es miembro de la UE. El uso de estos mapas puede provocar malentendidos. Por lo tanto, los volveré a subir correctamente. Maurice Flesier ( discusión ) 13:28 7 septiembre 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
Maurice Flesier - Sí, estás molesto porque ves que ese mapa muestra a Chipre como parte de Grecia, al menos así es como lo interpretas. Chipre no es parte del Espacio Schengen pero aplica las reglas de Schengen. Islandia es miembro de Schengen y miembro del EEE. De cualquier manera, te he explicado las cosas, no es mi problema que no diferencies entre Islas Malvinas y Tierra del Fuego o que pienses que la mera agrupación de píxeles es una declaración política pero sepas cómo llamar amateur al trabajo de otros. Desharé todas las ediciones que hagas en los mapas sin llegar a un consenso para tales cambios, aprende los conceptos básicos de las reglas de la comunidad de Wikipedia, por favor. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 14:11 7 sep 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
Sigues insistiendo en violar las reglas. Si miras mi página de usuario, no puedes juzgarme. Son mis opiniones personales y no vinculan a nadie. ¿Por qué debería estar molesto? Te pregunto, ¿la República de Chipre pertenece a Grecia política o geográficamente? Además, si dices que lo recuperes, ¿me estás amenazando? ¡Espero estar equivocado! – Maurice Flesier ( discusión ) 14:36 ​​7 septiembre 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
Créeme, es mejor para mí creer que las cosas que has dicho, como que el Reino Unido pertenece a Francia, son una cortina de humo. Porque si realmente crees que el Reino Unido pertenece a Francia debido a la agrupación de píxeles, entonces algo está terriblemente mal con tu comprensión de la realidad. Chipre no pertenece a Grecia, ¿eres tan tonto? La línea los conecta, así que cuando haces clic en cualquier lugar entre España y Finlandia y Chipre y Suecia, toda la zona cambia de color con un solo clic. ¿Qué es tan difícil de entender? Para que esto sea técnicamente posible, una línea de píxeles debe conectarlos. El píxel más cercano es el de Grecia, podría conectar con Italia o Malta, ¡pero por qué dibujarías una línea que es el doble de larga! Y no tengo idea de lo que estás diciendo al final. Estoy amenazando con hacer cumplir las reglas de Wikipedia, no puedes irrumpir y cambiar los mapas que han estado disponibles durante tanto tiempo, algunos de ellos se crearon hace años, sin llegar primero a un consenso para tal cambio en la página de discusión. Si llega a ese consenso, siga adelante y haga modificaciones de acuerdo con ese consenso. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 15:08 7 sep 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Explicar

Justifica tus continuas reversiones.-- Zyzzzzzy ( discusión ) 11:12 9 sep 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Zyzzzzzy - umm ¿Lo hice? Sigues agregando datos de 2013 y de fuentes de terceros mientras que la fuente original real para 2014 dice claramente lo contrario - [6] No sé qué más agregar, solo puedo pedirte que dejes de hacer ediciones sin fundamento. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 11:21 9 sep 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
Gracias por tu rápida respuesta.-- Zyzzzzzy ( discusión ) 11:40 9 sep 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Editar guerra

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Tu historial de edición reciente en Requisitos de visa para ciudadanos israelíes muestra que actualmente estás involucrado en una guerra de edición . Para resolver la disputa de contenido, en lugar de volver atrás, considera usar la página de discusión del artículo para trabajar hacia la creación de una versión que represente el consenso entre los editores. Consulta BRD para saber cómo se hace esto. Si las discusiones llegan a un punto muerto, puedes publicar una solicitud de ayuda en un tablón de anuncios relevante o buscar una resolución de disputas . En algunos casos, es posible que desees solicitar la protección temporal de la página .

Si participas en una guerra de ediciones, es posible que te bloqueen para editar , especialmente si violas la regla de las tres reversiones , que establece que un editor no debe realizar más de tres reversiones en una sola página en un período de 24 horas. Deshacer el trabajo de otro editor, ya sea en su totalidad o en parte, ya sea que involucre el mismo material o uno diferente cada vez, cuenta como una reversión. También ten en cuenta que, si bien violar la regla de las tres reversiones a menudo conduce a un bloqueo, aún puedes ser bloqueado por guerra de ediciones, incluso si no violas la regla de las tres reversiones , si tu comportamiento indica que tienes la intención de continuar revirtiendo repetidamente. Dreadstar 20:51, 23 de octubre de 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Sí, gracias por hacérmelo saber. Gracias por la sugerencia de usar la página de discusión del artículo, pero si quisieras echar un vistazo a Talk:Visa requirements for Israeli citizens (Discusión: Requisitos de visa para ciudadanos israelíes) , verías una discusión bastante larga e infructuosa. En cuanto a pedir ayuda después de que la discusión llega a un punto muerto, lo siento, pero por experiencia personal la mayoría de las personas involucradas en esos tablones de anuncios no están interesadas en ayudar en absoluto. He tenido algunas experiencias realmente malas en las que he expuesto todos los problemas solo para que una persona que se suponía que debía invertir más de un minuto de su tiempo en ese asunto, lo que claramente era demasiado, me haya desestimado. De todos modos, si estás dispuesto a actuar de manera diferente, por favor participa, he puesto un enlace a la página de discusión. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 20:56, 23 de octubre de 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Bien por ti, Dreadstar . Un conocido infractor de las reglas, al que tú mismo bloqueaste previamente, continúa eliminando contenido con una fuente de un artículo (comportamiento para el que hay una advertencia de plantilla oficial) mientras cita políticas aleatorias como un buen troll, ¿y tú me bloqueas solo para mantener la igualdad? Buen trabajo. Parece que estamos en la Unión Soviética. No quiero hacer ninguna diferencia de clase ni siquiera entre los infractores de las reglas y los (impacientes) "detienen el crimen", dales un castigo igual, enséñales a ambos la lección más importante: no destaquen entre la multitud. La burocracia también prevalece, no te importa que él estuviera infringiendo las reglas porque resolver eso requeriría cierta participación. Resolver el 3RR burocrático solo lleva un minuto, resolver el vandalismo furtivo llevaría 5 y eso es mucho. Espero que no trabajes con disputas reales, por ejemplo, disputas familiares en las que un marido golpea a su mujer sin sentido y en las que entras y los multas a ambos por hacer ruido y les dices que hablen de esto. Si su esposa le pidiera que considere que la violencia familiar tiene prioridad sobre hacer ruido y que debería arrestarlo, probablemente le sugeriría que hable sobre esta disputa y, si es necesario, busque asesoramiento de un servicio social desinteresado. ¿Por qué? Bueno, es obvio: escribir una multa por hacer ruido lleva un minuto, arrestar y acusar a alguien de un delito penal lleva un poco más de tiempo. Aun así, no justificaría sus acciones. Lo mismo ocurre aquí: ¿Wikipedia realmente se beneficia de tomar la ruta más corta TODAS LAS VECES? -- Twofortnights (discusión) 21:03 23 oct 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
No hay forma de "empatar", rompiste 3RR y te bloquearon por eso, te han bloqueado por guerra de ediciones antes. Solo una sugerencia, si llegas a enviar una solicitud de desbloqueo, asume la responsabilidad de tus acciones, demuestra que entiendes lo que hiciste y asegúrale al administrador que lo revisa que no lo volverás a hacer. Hacer comentarios sobre mí y mis habilidades no te ayudará en nada. Dreadstar 21:24, 23 de octubre de 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
Dreadstar , no voy a hacer ninguna petición porque es inútil. Nunca dije que no rompí esa regla, pero sí dije que implementaste esa fácil regla burocrática en lugar de lidiar con ese usuario y su persistente eliminación de contenido específicamente porque requiere mucho menos esfuerzo. Pero tan pronto como termine el bloqueo burocrático, volverá a hacer lo que estaba haciendo antes, no resolviste nada y lo sabes porque te cruzaste con este usuario antes. Bloquearme por intentar detenerlo tampoco resolverá nada, solo deteriorará aún más la calidad de Wikipedia al ayudar a los editores a luchar debido a la burocracia (puedes encontrar enlaces a algunos buenos análisis en esta página más arriba). Tal vez me equivoque, pero siento por el tono de tu mensaje y la completa evasión de los problemas planteados que mi mensaje fue entregado y que lo entendiste claramente. De la misma manera que yo me hago responsable de mis acciones (deshacer con exceso de celo la eliminación de contenido, más de tres veces en 24 horas), tal vez tú también puedas hacerlo, tal vez puedas resolver por una vez una "disputa de contenido" decidiendo realmente qué lado está equivocado y cuál lado está en lo cierto. No me importaría que me declararan "equivocado" en absoluto, pero por una vez tomemos una decisión en lugar de estas decisiones comunistas de dar la misma medida a todas las partes involucradas, ya que esa es la parte más molesta de Wikipedia con diferencia. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 21:47 23 oct 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Esta es una cita tuya , Dreadstar, de la página de discusión del otro usuario que estaba eliminando contenido.

"Ya que admitiste tu error, dijiste que reconociste el problema con la guerra de ediciones y que dejarías de hacerlo, te desbloquearé".

Entonces, ¿cuál es?

No hace falta mencionar que el otro usuario es manipulador al máximo, usa todas las políticas equivocadas de Wikipedia al azar para justificar sus acciones y miente sobre los demás sin un arrepentimiento. Pero supongo que las palabras dulces te llevan mucho más lejos que las palabras duras por aquí. Lamento no ser muy bueno en la primera categoría, y lamento estar muy a menudo en la segunda, pero no debería ser una excusa para estar en esta ridícula situación.

Podría haber escrito este mensaje de otra manera, podría haber escrito lo mucho que lo siento, que nunca volvería a hacer algo así, pero para eso tendría que tener un incentivo en forma de "escucha, la próxima vez que alguien elimine contenido fuente lo trataremos de esta manera>>>", pero no he visto eso. No hay ni una sola pista de que haya algún plan para el futuro. Lamento haber violado las 3RR, pero no simplemente por violarlas, sino por estar en la situación en la que esa era la única opción. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 11:49 24 oct 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Mapa de exención de visa para ciudadanos colombianos

Hola Twofortnights. Sé que actualizaste el archivo File:Visa free map for Colombian citizens.png , ¿podrías incorporar esta información en File:Requerimientos de visa para colombianos.svg ? porque ambos son el mismo mapa, y el segundo mapa fue creado primero. Así que este se mantendrá y los demás se eliminarán. Gracias -- Luisfege ( discusión ) 19:25 24 oct 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

No estoy seguro en este momento de cómo editar correctamente el archivo:Visa free map for Colombian citizens.svg pero sugeriría no usarlo hasta que se actualice ya que contiene mucha información desactualizada. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 21:54 24 oct 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos de visado para ciudadanos de Zambia

¡Hola! Sé que tienes experiencia en la elaboración de mapas para las páginas de políticas y requisitos de visas y me preguntaba si me harías un favor y crearías uno para los requisitos de visas para los ciudadanos de Zambia . Por favor, hazlo. €smost πк 11:49, 25 de noviembre de 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola Usuario:Esmost . No hay ni una sola referencia en ese artículo, no tengo idea si alguna de la información es correcta para hacer un mapa. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 11:52 25 nov 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
Los he añadido. ¿Puedes hacerlo ahora? -- Esmost πк 12:27, 26 de noviembre de 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
Usuario:Esmost , hay muchos errores en el artículo que has creado, intentaré corregirlos y luego veré de hacer un mapa.-- Twofortnights (discusión) 14:28 26 nov 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Visa KAZA

Hola, Twofortnights. Creo que deberíamos crear una página aparte para "Schengen de Sudáfrica". Visa universal Kavango-Zambezi. En mayo de 2015, habrá una visa única para cinco países. http://www.kazavisa.info/index.php/about/overview Ahora está la sección sobre la política de visados ​​para Zambia y Zimbabwe. ¿Qué opinas al respecto? Norvikk ( discusión ) 16:14 6 dic 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Norvikk , Hola, sí, probablemente deberíamos hacerlo, pero no antes de que se implemente realmente o al menos sea inminente. En este momento es solo un proyecto piloto de 6 meses. Si Angola, Botswana y Namibia realmente se unen al proyecto y se vuelve permanente, entonces definitivamente crearemos un artículo sobre la visa KAZA. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 17:34 6 dic 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]
Entiendo, esperemos a que termine el régimen piloto. Gracias . Norvikk ( discusión ) 20:05 6 dic 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos de visado para ciudadanos argelinos

Me gustaría hablar sobre el tema del artículo Requisitos de visa para ciudadanos argelinos . La IP que revertiste me llegó a través de una de las fuentes, pero cuando hice clic en la fuente, me llevó a una página en blanco. En el sitio web original noté que requiere el inicio de sesión de un miembro para continuar. Si simplemente pongo esto en mi barra de direcciones, dice que no tengo permiso para acceder al servidor. Eso está bien si puedes ver lo que hay del otro lado, así que solo tú puedes tratar con esa IP porque no puedo ver nada del otro lado. Si quieres puedes responderle aquí en mi página de discusión . Gracias.-- ¡ Aparece una Abigail salvaje! Captúrame. Se mueve. 00:28, 7 de diciembre de 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Usuario:AbigailAbernathy , sí, es un servidor un poco complicado, tienes que usar esos comandos URL. De todos modos, efectivamente había un error en el artículo, pero lo he corregido; ahora ya no hay más 3 burundianos. Informaré a ese usuario en tu página de discusión también. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 01:26 7 dic 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

Notificación de enlace de desambiguación para el 15 de diciembre

Hola. Gracias por tus recientes modificaciones. Wikipedia agradece tu ayuda. Sin embargo, hemos notado que cuando editaste Visa policy of Qatar , agregaste un enlace que apunta a la página de desambiguación Georgia . Estos enlaces casi siempre son involuntarios, ya que una página de desambiguación es simplemente una lista de títulos de artículos del tipo "¿Quiso decir…?". Lee las preguntas frecuentes  • Únete a nosotros en el WikiProject de DPL .

Está bien eliminar este mensaje. Además, para dejar de recibir estos mensajes, siga estas instrucciones de cancelación de suscripción . Gracias, DPL bot ( discusión ) 09:58, 15 de diciembre de 2014 (UTC) [ responder ]

¡Una estrella de granero para ti!

Gracias, Ridwan Jazz Arifin. Es extraño, sin embargo, que Indonesia le haya prometido esto a Japón, por lo que Japón también ha abolido las visas para los ciudadanos indonesios. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 19:41 9 ene 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

¿OMS?

¿Cómo se llama el administrador que te bloqueó a ti y al vándalo?

¿Qué otro administrador te bloqueó erróneamente?

Quiero ayudar a Wikipedia y librarla de la corrupción. Es probable que el administrador que te bloqueó sea un vándalo que ascendió y quiere lastimar a personas inocentes. Es como un violador o asesino en serie.

Wowee Zowee público ( discusión ) 20:32 31 ene 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Gran error

Tienes un error enorme en todos tus artículos. No especificas qué tipo de visa. Alguien podría asumir que es una visa de turista, pero no lo especificas. Wowee Zowee público ( discusión ) 20:33 31 ene 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

No hay artículos "míos", eres libre de editar cualquier cosa en Wikipedia que creas que necesita mayor aclaración o más información. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 21:41 31 ene 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Técnicamente, tienes razón. Sin embargo, has puesto tanto esfuerzo en estos artículos que la mayoría de ellos no existirían o estarían en un estado lamentable si no hubieras trabajado en ellos. Wowee Zowee público ( discusión ) 18:45 1 febrero 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Cambio del mapa de la política de visados ​​de Nepal de SVG a PNG

Hola, noté que editaste la política de visas de Nepal para usar un mapa PNG en lugar del mapa SVG existente que incluí allí. Realizaste el cambio el 26 de abril de 2014. No proporcionaste un resumen de la edición, así que me pregunto por qué hiciste este cambio. El mapa PNG no parece ser una mejora, porque a diferencia del mapa SVG no es escalable. Además, tiene líneas que van desde Islandia hasta los continentes. Sin embargo, estoy muy agradecido por tu eliminación del spam y el vandalismo en este artículo. -- AlexanderVanLoon ( discusión ) 07:17, 4 de febrero de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

AlexanderVanLoon , gracias por el mensaje. Usé ese mapa porque pensé que quizás los archivos .png son mucho más fáciles de editar para la mayoría de los usuarios, ya que se pueden editar en MS Paint, y como los mapas de visas pueden cambiar a menudo, creo que quizás los mapas .svg deberían reservarse para mapas más estáticos. Sin embargo, la versión del mapa .svg que usaste es bastante buena, muestra bien las naciones insulares a diferencia de otros mapas .svg que muestran una vista geográficamente realista, pero eso no es bueno para estos artículos. Por supuesto, esta es solo mi opinión y si crees que un mapa .svg es más adecuado, restáuralo en el artículo; no tengo una opinión demasiado firme sobre el tema. Pero, por favor, si restauras el .svg, solo escribe un párrafo breve en la descripción de la imagen informando a los novatos cómo editarlo. Gracias. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 17:03, 4 de febrero de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Twofortnights , si esas fueran las razones, puedo decirte que es al revés. Como escribí en la descripción, el mapa que hice está basado en File:BlankMap-World6,_compact.svg. La documentación para esa plantilla de mapa describe cómo puedes editar el archivo SVG en un editor de texto. Simplemente puedes buscar el código de país en el archivo y luego especificar el código de color, lo que en realidad es mucho más fácil que usar un editor de imágenes. Supongo que estarás de acuerdo con volver al mapa SVG ahora. Me aseguraré de editar la descripción para señalar esta documentación de manera más explícita, como lo pides. -- AlexanderVanLoon ( discusión ) 07:03, 5 de febrero de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
¡Muchas gracias AlexanderVanLoon !-- Twofortnights (discusión) 11:47 5 feb 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Política de visados ​​del Reino Unido

Hola, Twofortnights , me he dado cuenta de tu edición y tu comentario. Si echas un vistazo a la herramienta de rellenado, verás que no se han podido rellenar estas referencias. En mi opinión, es mejor convertir estas referencias en enlaces simples. ¿No? Lotje ( discusión ) 12:54 3 mar 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Pero ya los rellenó algún bot hace un tiempo. No creo que sea la mejor opción eliminar esos títulos porque esos artículos están etiquetados con una fea plantilla:barelinks .-- Twofortnights (discusión) 13:03 3 mar 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Entiendo lo que dices, pero los bots, por desgracia, también a veces significan vandalismo, por eso es tan confuso. Lotje ( discusión ) 16:27 3 mar 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Política de visados ​​de Mozambique

Hola, Twofortnights ! En primer lugar, ¡felicidades por tu trabajo! Sólo tengo una observación. En cuanto a la política de Visas de Mozambique y sus correcciones, parece que la Visa a la Llegada sigue siendo válida para los países que albergan una embajada. La diferencia es que si no solicitas con anticipación estarás pagando un 25% más por la tarifa. Cfr. [7]. En portugués: Visto de fronteira (extranjero proveniente de países donde no haja embaixada ou representación consular moçambicana, ou, havendo aquelas, será concedido mediante o pago adicional de 25% sobre a taxa a pagar . Válido por 30 días, prorrogáveis ​​até 60 días) . Si buscas en timaticweb los países que albergan una embajada de Mozambique, dice (en el caso de Brasil, por ejemplo [8]): Emisión de visa: Se requiere visa, excepto que los nacionales de Brasil pueden obtener una visa a la llegada por un máximo de 10 días. Estancia de 30 días en Beira (BEW), Nampula (APL), Maputo (MPM), Pemba (POL), Tete (TET) y Vilankulo (VNX). Por favor, tenedlo en cuenta. ¡Muchas gracias! --Quodagis

Gracias. ¡Lo investigaré! -- Twofortnights (discusión) 13:05 6 mar 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Quodagis, he buscado información al respecto y he encontrado que la página web de la embajada de Mozambique en Washington tiene esta advertencia: "NOTA. SE DEBE OBTENER UNA VISA ANTES DEL VIAJE EN LOS SERVICIOS CONSULARES YA QUE NO SE PUEDE EMITIR UNA VISA AL LLEGAR A CUALQUIERA DE LOS PUNTOS DE ENTRADA DE MOZAMBIQUE. SI USTED NECESITA UNA VISA PARA LA FRONTERA, DEBE SOLICITAR UNA AUTORIZACIÓN PREVIA DE LA Direcção Nacional de Migração". - http://www.embamoc-usa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=89&Itemid=64 ¿Es posible que [9] esté desactualizado y no refleje los últimos cambios?-- Twofortnights (discusión) 17:42 7 mar 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

-- Twofortnights , gracias por tu respuesta! Parece que las últimas noticias tienden a decir que el Gobierno quiere reforzar la seguridad y aplicar de manera absoluta la obligación de visado para aquellos países que albergan una embajada de Mozambique. Véase por ejemplo: [10]; [11]. En cualquier caso, yo no me arriesgaría... Esperemos un poco para ver qué pasa. Quodagis 18:39, 7 de marzo de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

¡Orden para ti!

¡Gracias Norvikk ! ¡Te lo agradezco mucho! -- Twofortnights (discusión) 15:28 8 mar 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos de visa para ciudadanos chinos

Con el debido respeto, mi edición no fue disruptiva en absoluto. Simplemente restauré la imagen original (que reemplazaste en junio de 2014). En los artículos sobre requisitos de visa, normalmente usamos el color verde o azul para la visa electrónica. Un tono naranja es confuso porque normalmente asociamos el color con una política restrictiva. 152.3.43.196 ( discusión ) 16:16 14 mar 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

La situación con ese mapa está bloqueada. No reemplacé el mapa, reemplacé el enlace con una nueva versión aclarada porque el original se alteraba constantemente en Commons y se borraba mucha información. Los administradores bloquearon la página en esa versión después de una disputa y eso es todo. Al editarla sin llegar a un consenso en una página de discusión, se está reiniciando la guerra de comentarios, así que, por favor, no lo hagas. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 17:06, 14 de marzo de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos de entrada a Moldavia

Hola, ya que parece que tienes mucho tiempo para estos artículos, ¿podrías corregir la política de visados ​​de Moldavia para que indique que se aceptan los documentos de identidad biométricos europeos? En Francia, por ejemplo, no se aceptan, por lo que se necesita un pasaporte, pero yo, como sueco, puedo utilizar perfectamente el mío (ya he realizado la corrección para Suecia, como ya sabes).

Al utilizar este sitio se pueden buscar todas las naciones europeas una por una y ver cuáles pueden utilizar sus tarjetas de identificación.

OK gracias [12]-- Twofortnights (discusión) 17:10 21 mar 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
¡Vaya, increíble! ¿Cómo accediste a la información de requisitos generales (es decir, no se especificó la nacionalidad)? Todos los sitios que probé me obligaron a especificar la nacionalidad.

Acerca de la política de visados ​​de Turquía

¡Hola Twofortnights! Hablo muy poco inglés. ¡Debo decir que el mapa de la Política de visados ​​de Turquía es incorrecto! Si miras esta página, podrás ver que los ciudadanos iraquíes que tengan un pasaporte ordinario deben obtener un visado en la dirección www.evisa.gov.tr. Solo se aceptarán visados ​​para los titulares de pasaportes diplomáticos y de servicio iraquíes. Por lo tanto, el mapa de la Política de visados ​​de Turquía es incorrecto. Emresunay ( discusión ) 12:11 29 mar 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Gracias Emresunay , ya está corregido. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 11:28 31 mar 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Re: Documentos de viaje para asuntos oficiales: no existen

Una vez que en un pasaporte ordinario aparece la indicación "para asuntos públicos", significa que el viajero viaja por asuntos públicos, ya no es "ordinario", por lo que es bueno combinarlo con el pasaporte diplomático, de servicio, etc. -- Susurro del corazón 20:34, 4 de abril de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Creo que la persona que no lo entiende eres tú. El endoso significa que el portador está realizando un viaje por un asunto público, por lo que es similar a las personas que tienen un pasaporte diplomático o de servicio. Como resultado, aunque el viajero tenga un pasaporte ordinario, aún pueden ser categorizados juntos. Esta es una acción absolutamente apropiada. -- Susurro del corazón 12:55, 5 de abril de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Susurro del corazón , no estoy de acuerdo pero puedes llevarlo a la página de discusión y quizás haya un consenso. Por ahora no lo hay. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 13:09 5 abr 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Abril de 2015

Actualmente, parece que estás involucrado en una guerra de ediciones según las devoluciones que has hecho sobre la política de visas de China . Se espera que los usuarios colaboren con otros, que eviten realizar ediciones que generen disrupciones y que intenten llegar a un consenso en lugar de deshacer repetidamente las ediciones de otros usuarios una vez que se sabe que hay un desacuerdo.

Tenga en cuenta especialmente que la política de Wikipedia sobre conflictos de edición establece lo siguiente:

  1. La edición en guerra es disruptiva sin importar cuántas reversiones hayas realizado .
  2. No edites la guerra incluso si crees que tienes razón.

En particular, los editores deben tener en cuenta la regla de las tres reversiones , que dice que un editor no debe realizar más de tres reversiones en una sola página en un período de 24 horas. Si bien las guerras de ediciones en Wikipedia no son aceptables en ninguna cantidad y pueden llevar a un bloqueo, es muy probable que romper la regla de las tres reversiones lleve a un bloqueo . Si se encuentra en una disputa de edición, use la página de discusión del artículo para discutir los cambios controvertidos; trabaje hacia una versión que represente el consenso entre los editores. Puede publicar una solicitud de ayuda en un tablón de anuncios apropiado o buscar la resolución de la disputa . En algunos casos puede ser apropiado solicitar la protección temporal de la página . L iz ¡Lee! ¡Discute! 14:42, 5 de abril de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Gracias por la nota , Liz , pero traté de defender el consenso en la primera deshacer y de decirle al usuario que use la página de discusión en la segunda. Después de que no se detuviera, no participé en una guerra de reversiones, pero lo publiqué en el foro de ANI. Así que gracias, pero no es necesario que me avises :) -- Twofortnights (discusión) 14:58, 5 de abril de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Notificación de enlace de desambiguación para el 7 de abril

Hola. Gracias por tus recientes modificaciones. Wikipedia agradece tu ayuda. Sin embargo, notamos que cuando editaste Requisitos de visa para ciudadanos rusos , agregaste un enlace que apunta a la página de desambiguación San Andrés, Colombia . Estos enlaces casi siempre son involuntarios, ya que una página de desambiguación es simplemente una lista de títulos de artículos del tipo "¿Quiso decir…?". Lee las preguntas frecuentes  • Únete a nosotros en el WikiProject de DPL .

Está bien eliminar este mensaje. Además, para dejar de recibir estos mensajes, siga estas instrucciones de cancelación de suscripción . Gracias, DPL bot ( discusión ) 09:22, 7 de abril de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola

Hola, gracias por el aviso. Quise actualizar Paraguay y terminé modificando Perú. Gracias por la rectificación. Podrías hacer otro cambio de solo quitar toda la sección de reciprocidad para la política de visas de India ya que India ya no da más visas a la llegada o más bien actualizar la VOA como visa e-Tourist en toda la tabla y agregar los países como Senegal en la tabla. Saludos.... — Comentario anterior sin firmar agregado por 46.193.64.19 ( discusión ) 18:12, 30 de abril de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Página web gratuita sobre visado para el Líbano

¿Por qué se niegan a aceptar el recuento actualizado y quieren cumplir con el informe que tiene un año? Puedo ver otras páginas de requisitos de visa de otros países que usted actualizó casi hasta el día de hoy, sin dar cuenta a Henley & Partners. Por ejemplo, el recuento de los Emiratos Árabes Unidos se actualizó ayer, Qatar, Jordania y Egipto se actualizaron según los últimos cambios en las restricciones de visa. — Comentario anterior sin firmar agregado por 31.209.107.137 ( discusión ) 16:38, 7 de mayo de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

No me niego a nada, estás haciendo una investigación original, no hay ninguna fuente que respalde tu edición. La fuente dice una cosa y tú la cambias por otra. Todos los países hacen referencia al informe de 2014 porque el de 2015 aún no se ha publicado. Lee Wikipedia:No hay investigación original . -- Twofortnights (discusión) 17:35 7 may 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos de visa para ciudadanos libaneses

Bueno, intenta contar los países y territorios que otorgan acceso sin visa/a la llegada según la tabla en la que ambos estamos de acuerdo (con las referencias proporcionadas) y obtendrás un 44. — Comentario anterior sin firmar agregado por 31.209.107.137 ( discusión ) 20:07, 7 de mayo de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Obviamente no has leído Wikipedia:No hay investigación original como he sugerido, de lo contrario no estarías proponiendo eso porque sabrías que va en contra de las reglas de Wikipedia. No puedes "actualizar" lo que dice la fuente. También deberías leer Wikipedia:Verificabilidad, no verdad .-- Twofortnights (discusión) 20:10 7 may 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Clasificación de pasaportes

Hola, tengo un problema con la referencia que haces de Henley & Partners. (Requisitos de visado para ciudadanos checos y requisitos de visado para ciudadanos de la Unión Europea). Gracias. — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por JanPodany ( discusióncontribuciones ) 05:52, 8 may 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Lo arreglé.-- Twofortnights (discusión) 10:36 8 may 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Página wiki sobre visas gratuitas para el Líbano

¿Podrías mostrarme entonces el informe que indica que los ciudadanos qataríes tienen acceso sin visado a 75 países? Ya que he consultado el informe, te estarás ateniendo a él (Henley & Partners 2014) y dice 71. — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por 31.209.107.137 ( discusión ) 16:43 8 may 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

No son ni 75 ni 71 sino 39 - [13]-- Twofortnights (discusión) 17:05 8 may 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Editor de IP

Parece que nuestro editor de IP prohibido ha vuelto con un nuevo host. [14] Eliminando material citado y añadiendo material no citado. W C M correo electrónico 22:02, 16 de mayo de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

La persistencia de algunas de estas personas es increíble. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 22:43 16 may 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
W , siguió haciendo esas modificaciones. ¿Podrías comprobar si son perjudiciales como antes? ¿Volvió a insertar sus propias opiniones peculiares que no se corresponden con las políticas actuales? -- Twofortnights (discusión) 14:39 22 may 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
[15] Eliminé cierta información citada, que agregaré nuevamente cuando se aburra, pero no estoy 100% convencido de que la cita que agregó respalde la edición. Llegué a 3RR, lo cual odio hacer porque muchos administradores simplemente bloquearán a ambas partes y lo considerarán una disputa de contenido. W C M correo electrónico 16:08, 22 de mayo de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
W , ya veo, desharé algunas de esas modificaciones ya que no hay razón para duplicar la información. Además, la política de la base chipriota no se menciona hasta donde puedo ver en el enlace proporcionado. En cuanto a la acción administrativa, lamentablemente es cierto, se ha convertido en pura burocracia que no ve su propósito en resolver los problemas de la mejor manera, sino que sirve a su propio propósito. También hubo algunas modificaciones a la política de visas de los departamentos y territorios franceses de ultramar y la política de visas del Reino de los Países Bajos en el Caribe por una dirección IP aparentemente similar. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 16:20 22 may 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos de visa para ciudadanos libaneses

Gracias por tu consejo, he modificado el mapa original que subí. Intenté varias veces usarlo como la versión actual, pero resultó que se revirtió y se archivó. ¡Echa un vistazo al historial del MAPA y observa los ajustes y luego, si puedes, haz que el que hice aparezca en la página principal! Muchas gracias fidelovkurt 20:13, 17 de mayo de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

OK arreglado.-- Twofortnights (discusión) 22:43 17 may 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos de visa para residentes de San Vicente

En relación con el reciente acuerdo recíproco entre Schengen y los Estados vicentinos, como usted ha señalado en el caso de Islandia, en los sitios web islandeses se dice que los ciudadanos vicentinos ya no necesitan visados, pero la IATA dice que sí. En estas circunstancias, ¿sabe qué ocurrirá si un ciudadano vicentino intenta subir a un avión con destino a Islandia sin un visado Schengen? ~ Hairouna ( discusión ) 13:25 29 may 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hairouna - El Gobierno de Islandia es la fuente principal. Es un Gobierno respetable que publica información actualizada con regularidad. El problema con la IATA es que malinterpretan la línea sobre cómo esos países tienen que firmar acuerdos separados en el futuro con Islandia y otros estados Schengen no pertenecientes a la UE, cuando en realidad esta medida se realiza de inmediato. La razón es que estos países están a) obligados a tener la misma política de visados ​​b) tienen fronteras abiertas con la UE, por lo que cualquier otra cosa no tendría sentido de todos modos. El problema con el Gobierno de Islandia es que, si bien mantienen sus sitios web actualizados, no informan regularmente a la IATA de los cambios creyendo que esto lo hace Bruselas, cuando no es así. De todos modos, los ciudadanos de San Vicente y las Granadinas no necesitan visado para Islandia.
Si un ciudadano de San Vicente intenta abordar un avión con destino a Islandia (desde fuera del espacio Schengen) sin visa, enfrentará dificultades y dependerá del personal de la aerolínea: cuánto estarán interesados ​​en investigar, es decir, si llamarán o no a las autoridades islandesas.
Estas situaciones no son inusuales para esa gigantesca burocracia europea. Solo el proceso de firmar este documento tomó alrededor de 3 años desde la idea inicial, no creo que ni siquiera sepan cómo lo hicieron, pasó por el Consejo, la Comisión y el Parlamento y también por varios comités de ida y vuelta y en círculos hasta que fue aprobado a la espera de la firma, y ​​ahora que tenemos una firma, se aplica a la espera de otra ratificación. No es inusual que Islandia no se dé cuenta de que es su deber informar a la IATA. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 17:11 29 may 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Vale, eso tiene sentido. ¿Te opondrías a que dejemos a Islandia (y Noruega y Suiza) con la etiqueta de sí, pero que digamos en las notas que, como no se ha notificado a la IATA, la gente podría tener dificultades para embarcar en vuelos que se originen fuera de la zona Schengen y tengan como destino uno de esos países? ~ Hairouna ( discusión ) 10:57 30 may 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
No creo que podamos escribirlo así exactamente, a menos que encontremos una referencia en algún medio sobre cómo estos eventos pueden causar dificultades, se consideraría una investigación original aunque sea verdad. Sin embargo, definitivamente podemos escribir una nota si lo redactamos con cautela diciendo que la base de datos de la IATA que utilizan las aerolíneas para determinar quién puede abordar el vuelo todavía incluye a Islandia como un país para el que se requiere visa. También puedes contactar a Timatic IATA para decirles que la información que tienen sobre Islandia es incorrecta (tampoco se actualizó para Moldavia y tampoco para la reciente expansión a las naciones del Caribe Oriental). -- Twofortnights (discusión) 11:53 30 may 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos para la visa jamaiquina

Señor Two Fortnights, nos gustaría informarle que la página de Jamaica ha sido editada en base a la información proporcionada por la embajada de Jamaica en Kuwait. Por lo tanto, no intente cambiar la información que es correcta. Lo único que se puede cambiar es el mapa para mostrar los países actualizados. De lo contrario, todos los datos sobre qué países otorgan Evisa o Visa a la llegada, etc. son correctos. — Comentario anterior sin firmar agregado por Lifeboarddubai ( discusióncontribuciones ) 06:59, 2 de junio de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola Lifeboarddubai! Tómate un minuto o dos para leer Wikipedia:Verificabilidad . También es muy importante Wikipedia:No hay investigación original . Gracias. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 11:03 2 jun 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]


Bueno, he proporcionado los enlaces con los que he verificado los detalles que he publicado. Entonces, si he proporcionado los enlaces con pruebas, ¿por qué los cambias? — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por Lifeboarddubai ( discusióncontribuciones ) 13:48, 2 de junio de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Lo expliqué "El mensaje principal se revirtió porque WP:NOR, Andorra rev.bcs. WP:CIRCULAR, otros se revirtieron por problemas de formato por el momento hasta que se solucione porque - {{}} no se puede usar para enlaces de referencia, use [] en su lugar, eVisa es la plantilla "yes2" no "yes""-- Twofortnights (discusión) 14:08 2 jun 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

He ejecutado los cambios que me pediste. ¿Puedes proporcionarme un mapa actualizado porque no sé cómo crear mapas? — Comentario anterior sin firmar agregado por Lifeboarddubai ( discusióncontribuciones ) 07:30, 3 de junio de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Esa es solo una edición parcial. Debes leer WP:OR y WP:CIRCULAR para ver por qué quedan problemas. También podrías beneficiarte de usar el botón de vista previa, agregaste un texto sin sentido como "Texto en cursiva" al comienzo del artículo. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 11:23 3 jun 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Errores de referencia el 3 de junio

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Requisitos de visa para ciudadanos indios

Hola, Twofortnights ,
¿puedes revisar las ediciones recientes de esta página y ver si son correctas? Algunas de las ediciones parecen deshacer ediciones anteriores de esta IP, pero es muy probable que estés familiarizado con esta página y puedas evaluar si la nueva información es verdadera. ¡Gracias! L iz ¡Lee! ¡Habla! 12:59, 5 de junio de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola Liz ! Parece una serie de pruebas de edición, al final no cambió mucho pero lo que hizo está mal. Voy a deshacer su edición. Gracias por avisarme :) -- Twofortnights (discusión) 15:04 5 jun 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola, Twofortnights .
¿Hay alguna razón específica por la que se haya revertido una pequeña edición que hice [16]? Solo estaba intentando mantener la coherencia de esa columna porque ayuda a la hora de buscar qué países han abierto la visa electrónica. Esa celda era la que no encajaba. — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por Ratheesh.pisharody (discusión • contribuciones ) 03:13, 12 de noviembre de 2018 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola. El término "visa de entrada electrónica" se utiliza para Antigua y se utiliza en todos los demás artículos sobre VR, por lo que lo coloqué allí por razones de coherencia. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 13:36 12 nov 2018 (UTC) [ responder ]

¡Una estrella de granero para ti!

¡Gracias, capitán Haddock! Es un placer, especialmente el artículo sobre la India, sabiendo que es el artículo con mayor número de lectores mensuales. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 16:55 15 jun 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

¡Una estrella de granero para ti!

Gracias por tu apreciación Acebarry  :) -- Twofortnights (discusión) 22:44 19 jun 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Orden «За борьбу с вандализмом»

¡Gracias, Norvikk ! Significa mucho que se reconozca esto, porque la burocracia de Wikipedia a menudo permite que el vandalismo prospere. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 19:24 23 jun 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Mapa de la política de visados ​​de Irán

Hola, ¿podría modificar el mapa de la política de visados ​​de Irán para que ya no diga que hay condiciones para la visa a la llegada? He descubierto que el código de preaprobación no es necesario y se lo he comunicado a Timatic, que ha corregido su información. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 13:37 29 jun 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

André Devecserii, interesante novedad, recuerdo que se les pidió esto hace un año y no lo cambiaron porque supuestamente era obligatorio. Gracias por esto, haré las actualizaciones necesarias. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 15:27 29 jun 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Parece que todavía se requiere para visas anticipadas según la nacionalidad y la embajada (en la embajada en Berna, por ejemplo, los ciudadanos de la UE excepto el Reino Unido solo lo necesitan para visas de entradas múltiples, mientras que los ciudadanos suizos y del Reino Unido siempre lo necesitan). Esto fue puramente sobre la VOA en el aeropuerto. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 16:24 29 jun 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

==Requisitos de visa para ciudadanos tunecinos==Primero, estimado colaborador de Wikipedia, no sé si es la página de discusión y si estoy escribiendo en el lugar verdadero. Bueno, sobre los requisitos de visa para ciudadanos tunecinos, gracias por agregar a Irán en verde para mostrar que es un país con VOA, pero, por favor, ¿le gustaría agregar Bengladesh también? Y para el Líbano, los ciudadanos tunecinos no requieren visa, es una visa de entrada que requiere solo los tres documentos. Los nacionales de los países árabes pero no del CCG (Argelia, Isla Comers, Yibuti, Egipto, Irak, Libia, Marruecos, Mauritania, Somalia, Sudán, Túnez, Yemen) pueden obtener su visa en el aeropuerto siempre que estén en posesión de lo siguiente: - Un boleto de ida y vuelta no reembolsable - Una reserva de hotel o dirección de residencia - 2000 USD en efectivo o un cheque de un banco reconocido y le proporcionaré 2 recursos oficiales la oficina de turismo del Líbano http://www.lebanontourism.com/TravelerTools/visa.asp en árabe intente leer la parte 8 para ahttp://www.general-security.gov.lb/Entry_visa/visa.aspx Dirección General de Seguridad General del Líbano aunque puedes comprobar un problema en inglés en el sitio web intentaré hacerlo en otros idiomas pero me dijo lo mismo que la oficina de turismo en francéshttp://www.general-security.gov.lb/Entry_visa/sub3-(1).aspx dice en francés copiaré y pegaré Los residentes de los países árabes que no son miembros del Golfo que llegan por razones puramente turísticas:

Una visa gratuita de un mes, prorrogable solo 3 meses a petición del interesado, para los recursos disponibles en procedencia de los siguientes países:

Algérie, Djibouti, Egypte, îles Comores, Iraq, Jordanie, Libye, Maroc, Mauritanie, Somalia, Sudán, Tunisie, Yémen- Un Billet d'avion Aller-Retour no reembolsable

- Una reserva de hotel o dirección clara y nette de un lugar de alojamiento fijo, además de un número de teléfono

Entonces, ¿te gustaría cambiarlo a visa de entrada y agregarlo también en el mapa? Gracias.

- Un somme d'argent liquide, un montante equivalente a 2.000 dólares americanos, o un cheque bancario de este montante, certificado por la banca correspondiente.

Documentos de identidad franceses para Santa Lucía

Hola, tengo un dilema con respecto a la aceptación de documentos de identidad franceses en Santa Lucía. Envié un correo electrónico directamente al aeropuerto de Hewanorra diciendo que soy un ciudadano francés que planea un viaje de 10 días. Dijeron que no se aceptaría un documento de identidad francés. Luego reenvié la respuesta a la IATA, que se puso en contacto con sus fuentes. Aparentemente, me respondieron que, después de todo, los franceses pueden usar sus documentos de identidad durante un máximo de 14 días.

No sé qué pensar. ¿En serio el propio aeropuerto me dio información errónea? Lo pregunto porque quiero modificar la información de Wikipedia según lo que sea correcto.

A continuación se muestra mi correspondencia con el aeropuerto y la IATA [17] [18] André Devecserii ( discusión ) 15:04 2 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Parece una respuesta muy pobre de Santa Lucía, ni siquiera hay una firma. Supongo que muestra cómo los ciudadanos franceses pueden experimentar algunos retrasos, pero supongo que al final la Autoridad de Inmigración confirmaría lo mismo que le confirmaron a la IATA. Creo que debería añadirse al artículo, el hecho de que alguien en la autoridad portuaria no lo sepa no es relevante para nosotros. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 18:15 2 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
También les pedí que investigaran si los franceses todavía pueden usar documentos de identidad en Dominica (aún estoy esperando una respuesta). En Timatic dice que incluso pueden usar documentos de identidad vencidos (5 años como máximo). También envié un correo a la embajada dominicana en Bruselas para escuchar su versión André Devecserii ( discusión ) 19:10 2 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
La mayoría de estos países no consideran que las leyes, incluidas las normas sobre inmigración, pasaportes y visados, sean algo inmutable. Además, muchas veces no tienen información actualizada ni siquiera en las embajadas, por lo que puede resultar frustrante averiguar la verdad. Incluso los países más grandes, como Malasia, proporcionan información muy deficiente sobre su política de visados. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 20:00, 2 julio 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

¿Mayor flexibilidad con los documentos de identidad que con los pasaportes para Turquía y Dominica?

He tenido conocimiento de que, según Timatic, Turquía exige que los pasaportes de Georgia, Holanda, Italia, Chipre del Norte, Liechtenstein, Malta y Grecia sean válidos, a la llegada, durante el período de exención de visado o visado electrónico más otros 60 días (es decir, normalmente 150 días). Sin embargo, los documentos de identidad de esos países solo deben ser válidos a la llegada.

Al leer esto, tengo la impresión de que, de hecho, la exención del límite de validez no solo se aplica a los documentos de identidad, sino a los documentos de viaje en general para aquellos ciudadanos que sí tienen la opción de utilizar un documento de identidad.

¿Crees que sería una buena idea ponerte en contacto con el Ministerio de Asuntos Exteriores y preguntar? Definitivamente, parece que se trata de un posible error de comunicación con la IATA.

De manera similar, para Dominica, se establece que los pasaportes franceses deben ser válidos al llegar, mientras que los documentos de identidad pueden tener una validez máxima de 5 años si fueron emitidos entre el 1 de enero de 2004 y el 31 de diciembre de 2013, siempre que el titular del documento fuera mayor de 17 años en la fecha de emisión.

Recibí una respuesta vaga de Dominica en la que se indicaba que se podían utilizar los documentos de identidad franceses, pero no me dijeron nada sobre su validez, a pesar de que pregunté. ¿Es normal este fenómeno (más flexibilidad con los documentos de identidad que con los pasaportes)? André Devecserii ( discusión ) 21:39 3 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Recibí una "respuesta" del Ministerio de Asuntos Exteriores de Turquía. ¡Dios mío, qué retrasado mental puedes ser! [19] [20]. ¡ Ni siquiera responden a la pregunta!
Suspiro, ¿debería correr el riesgo de pedirle a la IATA que lo compruebe? Parece que a estas alturas están bastante irritados con mi correspondencia habitual (aunque aproximadamente el 90% de ella dio como resultado correcciones), tanto que me asignaron un contacto específico en el equipo. No quiero levantar una falsa alarma André Devecserii ( discusión ) 22:50 3 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Según mi experiencia, Turquía es bastante diligente en cuanto a la actualización de sus sitios web, pero aun así vale la pena comprobarlo. Sin embargo, quienquiera que hayan contratado para trabajar como soporte para MFA es un tonto, estos correos electrónicos son realmente inaceptables. Supongo que tendrás que escribir por tercera vez.
En cuanto a Dominica, me parece un caso especial, por lo que no lo relacionaría con ninguna otra política de validez. Sin embargo, creo que la razón de esto son los territorios del Caribe francés para que sus residentes puedan viajar a Dominica con un documento de identidad vencido. Por lo tanto, es posible que tengan esta política sobre los documentos de identidad vencidos, pero creo que también vale la pena volver a comprobarlo; no hay razón para que la IATA se irrite en lo que a mí respecta. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 22:59 3 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
No es el mero hecho de que se puedan utilizar documentos de identidad vencidos lo que cuestiono, sino que supuestamente lo mismo no se aplica a los pasaportes franceses vencidos, a pesar de que el pasaporte es un documento de viaje "más fuerte". Lo mismo sobre Turquía (recibí una tercera respuesta inútil, por cierto, y la cuarta vez se negaron a responder).
Enviaré un correo electrónico a mi contacto asignado en IATA, André Devecserii ( discusión ) 00:01 4 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Exención de visado para los territorios franceses

Según sus mapas, los ciudadanos de la UE tienen derecho a permanecer indefinidamente en la Guayana Francesa y Nueva Caledonia, pero no en otros territorios franceses. ¿Es realmente así? Pensé que todos los ciudadanos del EEE, andorranos, monegascos, sanmarinenses y suizos podían quedarse indefinidamente en todos los territorios de Francia, y la información que he encontrado parece coincidir. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 22:41 4 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Los territorios insulares, excepto Nueva Caledonia, a veces no están marcados en los mapas. Guayana está ahí porque no se puede omitir, pero otros territorios son imposibles de ubicar. La razón es que los territorios franceses no son los únicos en el mundo. Si echas un vistazo a la sección de requisitos de visa/territorios de algún artículo, verás que hay docenas de ellos, así que lo mejor es mantener el mapa solo para los países establecidos mientras que todo lo demás está en la tabla. Es un compromiso para evitar el desorden y mantener los mapas legibles. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 22:45 4 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Está bien, lo entiendo André Devecserii ( discusión ) 23:05 4 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Visado a la llegada al Iraq no kurdo + visitas sin visado al Kurdistán iraquí

Tengo dos problemas. En primer lugar, el sitio web del Ministerio de Asuntos Exteriores (cuya fecha no se puede determinar con certeza) dice que, para obtener un visado a la llegada para un Iraq no kurdo , uno simplemente tiene que convencer al funcionario de inmigración de que no tuvo la oportunidad de obtener un visado con antelación. Sin embargo, Timatic dice que se debe presentar "una carta firmada y sellada emitida por el Ministerio del Interior de Iraq".

¿Conoce alguna fuente que confirme alguna de las dos versiones? ¿Qué tal son los iraquíes a la hora de actualizar sus sitios web?

En segundo lugar, no encuentro absolutamente nada que sugiera que los titulares de pasaportes del Vaticano puedan visitar el Kurdistán sin visado (o sea, con "visado a la llegada") durante 15 días. ¿Hay alguna fuente de esto? ¿O debería enviar un correo electrónico y preguntar?

Finalmente recibí tu mensaje y te enviaré un correo electrónico. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 23:05 4 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

No sé mucho sobre la diligencia iraquí, pero en este momento creo que es seguro dudar de cualquier información procedente de allí dado que el país se está desmoronando.
En cuanto a Kurdistán y el Vaticano, está en la página de IATA [21]: "Se requiere visa, excepto los nacionales de la Ciudad del Vaticano (Santa Sede) que pueden obtener una visa al llegar a Erbil (EBL) y Sulaymaniyah (ISU) para una estadía máxima de 15 días".
Gracias por enviarles un correo electrónico sobre los otros países también. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 00:20 5 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Política de visados ​​de Kazajstán para los miembros de la OCDE

¡Hola! Me encontré con este artículo sobre que Kazajstán ha eliminado los requisitos de visado para los estados miembros de la OCDE a partir del 1 de julio de 2015: ([22]) Vi en la página del artículo de Wikipedia que Kazajstán efectivamente va a eliminar los requisitos de visado para los miembros de la organización, sin embargo, no se ha establecido un cronograma. No puedo encontrar ningún sitio web oficial que confirme la información mencionada anteriormente. ¿Ha visto alguna otra información al respecto? Gracias y saludos. Aquintero82 ( discusión ), 16:58 5 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Aquintero82 , al final lo levantaron solo para 10 países este año y lo levantarán para todos los miembros de la OCDE a fines de 2017. Aquí hay un enlace [23]. Saludos, -- Twofortnights (discusión) 16:33 6 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

"Visado a la llegada" en el Kurdistán iraquí

No sé por qué siempre se habla de ello, cuando en realidad se trata de una visita sin visado. Incluso el gobierno se refiere a ello como tal. [24]

A menos que tenga una opinión diferente, ¿podría eliminar todas las referencias a esto como "visa a la llegada" en Wikipedia?

Por cierto, mira la lista que aparece en el enlace: no es la misma que la información de la IATA y el sitio me da una buena impresión. Creo que voy a enviar un correo electrónico al gobierno kurdo para preguntar. Si confirman que su lista está actualizada, esto se enviará directamente a la IATA. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 09:51 6 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Vale, gracias. Han cambiado bastante la lista. En cuanto a por qué se trata de una VoA, no estoy seguro de por qué algunas fuentes la llaman así, pero veamos qué tiene que decir el Gobierno de IK. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 16:34 6 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Notificación de enlace de desambiguación para el 15 de julio

Hola. Gracias por tus recientes modificaciones. Wikipedia agradece tu ayuda. Sin embargo, hemos notado que cuando editaste Visa policy of Gabon , agregaste un enlace que apunta a la página de desambiguación Congo . Estos enlaces casi siempre son involuntarios, ya que una página de desambiguación es simplemente una lista de títulos de artículos del tipo "¿Quiso decir…?". Lee las preguntas frecuentes  • Únete a nosotros en el WikiProject de DPL .

Está bien eliminar este mensaje. Además, para dejar de recibir estos mensajes, siga estas instrucciones de cancelación de suscripción . Gracias, DPL bot ( discusión ) 09:30, 15 de julio de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

¡Hola!

¡Hola Twofortnights!

Solo quería felicitarte por el excelente trabajo que has estado haciendo hasta ahora con todos los artículos sobre visas. Estoy aquí solo para ayudar y espero que mis aportes te resulten útiles. Espero trabajar contigo para que las páginas sean lo más completas posible.

Mejor — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por 2404:E800:E61C:9BA:909C:45DB:4298:E0AB (discusión) 15:29 21 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Gracias-- Twofortnights (discusión) 16:28 22 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Mapa de exención de visado para los Emiratos Árabes Unidos

Por favor, actualice el mapa de países sin visado de los Emiratos Árabes Unidos. Exodusvisafree ( discusión ) 15:34 22 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Vale, ¿qué es lo que hay que actualizar?-- Twofortnights (discusión) 16:38 22 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos de visa para mexicanos que viajan a Túnez

Hola, hace poco vi que cambiaste el artículo que dice que los titulares de pasaportes mexicanos no necesitan visa para Túnez, sin embargo, el enlace que proporcionaste (así como varios otros enlaces que descubrí) dice lo contrario. [25] La única excepción son los titulares de pasaportes oficiales y diplomáticos. ¿Puedes proporcionarme un enlace que diga lo contrario? Gracias y saludos. Aquintero82 , ( discusión ), 23 julio 2015, 11:19 (UTC)

Hola, sí, puedes leerlo aquí - [26]. Lo siento, pero solo está en francés. Supongo que tardarán un tiempo en notificarlo a la IATA. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 21:11 24 jul 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
¡Gracias! Aquintero82 , ( discusión ), 24 julio 2015, 20:46 (UTC)

Entrada sin visado a Georgia

A diferencia de lo que ocurría antes, no es válido solo por 360 días, sino por un año. Así lo dice la IATA y el aeropuerto de Tbilisi me lo confirmó por teléfono. Por lo tanto, la política de visados ​​necesita un pequeño cambio. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 13:20 3 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

André Devecserii, hecho. Por favor, también añada a la lista de políticas de visado inconsistentes para que la IATA lo aclare: Irán. Algunos medios informaron sobre cómo abolieron los visados ​​para los ciudadanos de Egipto, Turquía, Líbano, Azerbaiyán, Georgia, Bolivia y Siria. En primer lugar, la conocida política de visado de Irán ya exime de visado a los nacionales de estos países, excepto Egipto, Líbano y Georgia. En segundo lugar, los ciudadanos de Malasia, Sri Lanka y Venezuela también están exentos, pero ahora eso no se menciona. Y en tercer lugar, la exención de visado permitida para la estancia se menciona simplemente como de 15 a 90 días, dependiendo de la nacionalidad, pero sin más detalles. Gracias. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 20:49, 4 de agosto de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Mi contacto designado en IATA no parece muy interesado en responder a mis dos correos electrónicos (que describen alrededor de 8 problemas en total), aunque el cambio a la exención de visa de Georgia finalmente se incluyó en Timatic (puede que sea porque envié un correo electrónico al respecto o puede que no).
Para ser sincero, lo llamaré mañana. Hace dos semanas me dijo que estaba muy ocupado, pero que se pondría en contacto conmigo "en cualquier momento, en los próximos dos o tres días aproximadamente". Hasta ahora no lo ha hecho.
Si tenéis curiosidad, su nombre es Jordi Bardolet (probablemente un catalán) y su correo es [email protected] André Devecserii ( discusión ) 18:53 5 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]


==Requisitos de visa para ciudadanos tunecinos==Primero, estimado colaborador de Wikipedia, no sé si es la página de discusión y si estoy escribiendo en el lugar verdadero. Bueno, sobre los requisitos de visa para ciudadanos tunecinos, gracias por agregar a Irán en verde para mostrar que es un país con VOA, pero, por favor, ¿le gustaría agregar Bengladesh también? Y para el Líbano, los ciudadanos tunecinos no requieren visa, es una visa de entrada que requiere solo los tres documentos. Los nacionales de los países árabes pero no del CCG (Argelia, Isla Comers, Yibuti, Egipto, Irak, Libia, Marruecos, Mauritania, Somalia, Sudán, Túnez, Yemen) pueden obtener su visa en el aeropuerto siempre que estén en posesión de lo siguiente: - Un boleto de ida y vuelta no reembolsable - Una reserva de hotel o dirección de residencia - 2000 USD en efectivo o un cheque de un banco reconocido y le proporcionaré 2 recursos oficiales la oficina de turismo del Líbano http://www.lebanontourism.com/TravelerTools/visa.asp en árabe intente leer la parte 8 para ahttp://www.general-security.gov.lb/Entry_visa/visa.aspx Dirección General de Seguridad General del Líbano aunque puedes comprobar un problema en inglés en el sitio web intentaré hacerlo en otros idiomas pero me dijo lo mismo que la oficina de turismo en francéshttp://www.general-security.gov.lb/Entry_visa/sub3-(1).aspx dice en francés copiaré y pegaré Los residentes de los países árabes que no son miembros del Golfo que llegan por razones puramente turísticas:

Una visa gratuita de un mes, prorrogable solo 3 meses a petición del interesado, para los recursos disponibles en procedencia de los siguientes países:

Algérie, Djibouti, Egypte, îles Comores, Iraq, Jordanie, Libye, Maroc, Mauritanie, Somalia, Sudán, Tunisie, Yémen- Un Billet d'avion Aller-Retour no reembolsable

- Una reserva de hotel o dirección clara y nette de un lugar de alojamiento fijo, además de un número de teléfono

Entonces, ¿te gustaría cambiarlo a visa de entrada y agregarlo también en el mapa? Gracias.

- Un somme d'argent liquide, un montante equivalente a 2.000 dólares americanos, o un cheque bancario de este montante, certificado por la banca correspondiente.


NS: Estimado colaborador de Wikipedia, ya te escribí esto antes, pero parece que no lo leíste o actuaste así. No lo copié de ningún otro sitio web, solo hice una copia y pegué de la fuente indicada o tal vez no estés actualizado. Intenta abrirlo y leerlo. — Comentario anterior sin firmar agregado por Dr.Majdiii ( discusióncontribuciones ) 23:20, 5 de agosto de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Estrellas de granero para ti.

La Barnstar de las Naciones Unidas La estrella del cine rusoPor su gran contribución a la redacción de artículos sobre visados ​​para todos los países del mundo.
Por la edición, por su ayuda en la edición de los artículos "Política de visados ​​de Rusia" y "Requisitos de visados ​​para ciudadanos rusos"
. Muchas gracias. Norvikk ( discusión ) 19:31 7 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

¡Muchas gracias Norvikk !-- Twofortnights (discusión) 20:01 7 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Mapa de requisitos de visado para ciudadanos filipinos

¡Hola! Gracias por hacer estos maravillosos mapas de visas. Sin embargo, me gustaría señalar dos cosas incorrectas en el mapa para los ciudadanos filipinos. El mapa indica que Omán y Jordania permiten la visa a la llegada para los filipinos. Esto es incorrecto, según Timatic/IATA. Además, Surinam y Costa Rica permiten el acceso sin visa a los filipinos, pero el mapa no lo refleja. ¡Gracias! — Comentario anterior sin firmar agregado por 95.90.241.50 (discusión) 11:03, 15 de agosto de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Gracias por señalarlo. El mapa ya está arreglado. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 11:40 15 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos de visado para ciudadanos libaneses

Respecto a las ediciones realizadas, ¿qué parte de la información has visto que es falsa?

- No deshagas todo. Elimina simplemente aquellos que no te satisfacen, ya sea que se mencionen o no. — Comentario anterior sin firmar agregado por LibanoGerman ( discusióncontribuciones ) 00:23, 19 de agosto de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

No proporcionaste referencias para ninguna de las adiciones, por eso eliminé todo. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 16:56 19 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Problemas para contactar con IATA

Hola, acabo de escribir el siguiente correo a IATA http://oi61.tinypic.com/5dtff6.jpg

¿Escribí algo que no debía? Se negaron a responderme durante una semana (solían responder en un plazo máximo de 3 días), al igual que no han respondido a ninguno de mis correos desde principios de julio.

Tampoco han hecho ningún cambio al respecto (y siempre me lo hacían saber incluso si resultaba que su información actual era correcta)

Parece que ya no podré extraerles información :/ ¿Crees que podrías intentarlo, dado el tiempo (tanto con el asunto de Mozambique como con otros problemas que has encontrado)? Su dirección de correo principal es [email protected] André Devecserii ( discusión ) 17:19 19 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola, parece muy bien escrito. El Reino Unido ahora también advierte sobre Mozambique: "Los ciudadanos británicos necesitan una visa para entrar en Mozambique. Todos los turistas y aquellos que viajan por motivos de trabajo desde países donde hay una misión diplomática de Mozambique deben obtener una visa de turista o de negocios antes de viajar. Si viaja desde un país donde no hay una misión diplomática de Mozambique, puede obtener una visa a su llegada, aunque los visitantes a veces han informado de problemas para hacerlo". [27]
¿Entonces no respondieron sobre ninguno de los otros países? Eso es extraño.
Intentaré encontrar tiempo para escribirles un correo electrónico, pero avíseme si le responden mientras tanto para no enviarles un correo electrónico sobre algo que ya se solucionó.
Pero creo que tal vez tu persona de contacto esté de vacaciones, así que tal vez deberías reenviar la solicitud para todos los países a la dirección de correo electrónico principal para que se le asigne a algún asistente social que esté en la oficina. ¿Qué opinas? -- Twofortnights (discusión) 17:55 19 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Lo que hice fue enviar un correo con mi contacto como "Para" y la dirección general como "Copia".
Te mantendré informado en caso de que respondan, pero como dije, no he tenido noticias de ellos desde el 2 de julio (excepto cuando hablé con mi contacto por teléfono a fines de julio, cuando respondería en una semana. Desde entonces, no he podido comunicarme con él en absoluto).
Además, solo para aclarar, se corrigió la exención de visa de Georgia, y creo que la nueva regla de 90 días en un período de 180 días para los países ACP se agregó para algunos, pero no para la mayoría de esos países http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2015/05/28-jha-eu-visa-waiver-agreements/
Nunca me lo dijeron, pero me enteré al inspeccionar.André Devecserii ( discusión ) 18:57 19 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Twofortnights , otra cosa sobre la que podrías enviarles un correo es el hecho de que Timatic todavía afirma que las VoA iraníes solo son válidas durante 15 días, aunque se haya extendido a 30. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 16:30 21 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Acabo de escribir esto http://oi59.tinypic.com/33dj9z7.jpg En este momento no espero ninguna respuesta de ellos, pero les avisaré si obtengo una. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 09:15, 22 de agosto de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Gracias por eso. He revisado las ediciones recientes sobre Irán de Timatic y, curiosamente, agregaron a Georgia y Líbano a la lista de países donde la VoA no se aplica junto con el Reino Unido, Canadá y los EE. UU. Esto es interesante porque los informes de los medios sugirieron que Irán hizo exactamente lo contrario, que habían liberalizado por completo la política de visados ​​hacia estos dos países y que sus ciudadanos ya no necesitaban visado. [28] -- Twofortnights (discusión) 09:24, 22 de agosto de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Puede ser un error de comunicación. Creo que definitivamente deberías enviarles un correo electrónico y señalarles esto si puedes. Podrían ser errores importantes. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 19:30 22 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Códigos de colores estandarizados para todos los mapas de requisitos de visa

Hola Twofortnights

Saludos una vez más. He estado revisando los artículos sobre visas en los que has trabajado y, en primer lugar, me gustaría felicitarte por el excelente trabajo que has hecho. Sin embargo, una cosa que creo que necesita mejorarse es que deberíamos tener un código de colores estandarizado para todos los requisitos de visa mediante mapas de pasaportes. La mejor combinación de colores es el mapa que utilizas para la mayoría de los pasaportes, por ejemplo, los requisitos de visa para ciudadanos de EE. UU., Reino Unido, Dinamarca y Suecia. La razón por la que digo que este es el mejor código de colores es que nos permite diferenciar de manera efectiva entre países que no requieren visa, ofrecen visa a la llegada, necesitan una visa por adelantado Y permiten que se recoja una visa preestablecida a la llegada. Esta combinación de colores de verde oscuro, verde claro, gris y gris rojizo (para países que permiten una visa preaprobada a la llegada) es agradable a la vista y agradable a la vista.

Sin embargo, este excelente sistema de codificación por colores no se aplica a todas las páginas de requisitos de visado. Por ejemplo, en las páginas de requisitos de visado para ciudadanos croatas y singapurenses, el código de colores que se utiliza es verde oscuro, verde claro y rojo (para los países que requieren visado). Sin embargo, estos dos mapas no distinguen entre los países que requieren visado antes de llegar y los países que permiten un visado preaprobado a la llegada. Por eso me gustaría sugerir que el código de colores que ha utilizado para las otras páginas de requisitos de visado (ciudadanos estadounidenses, ciudadanos daneses y ciudadanos del Reino Unido) se aplique a estas dos páginas. De esa manera, también podemos diferenciar entre los países que requieren visado antes de llegar y los países que permiten un visado preaprobado a la llegada.

No hace falta decir que has hecho un excelente trabajo cuidando estas páginas y estoy seguro de que seguirás haciéndolo. ¡No dudes en escribirme si tienes más comentarios o sugerencias!

Mejor,

Basanth — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por 2401:7400:6000:1CDB:95A3:E530:2DAE:54B7 (discusión) 10:07 22 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola! En primer lugar, gracias por tus amables palabras. Son muy apreciadas. En cuanto a los colores de los mapas, no estoy seguro de cuál es la acción correcta, por eso mantuve varios mapas ligeramente diferentes con la esperanza de que otros usuarios comenten. Eres el primer usuario que comparte su opinión sobre este tema y gracias por eso. Una cosa que sé es que algunos usuarios confunden los artículos sobre "Requisitos de visa para" y "Política de visa para", por lo que traté de mantener los artículos sobre política de visas más coloridos y fáciles de distinguir. En lo que respecta a los requisitos de visa, los artículos con un código diferente incluyen a los ciudadanos de Croacia, Polonia, Singapur, Albania, Afganistán, Suiza, Noruega, Islandia, Liechtenstein, países postsoviéticos, América Central, algunos estados del Caribe y Oceanía. El problema para un enfoque unificado son algunos países con categorías especiales como asuntos públicos de China, grupos turísticos de Bielorrusia o viajes con vales a Macedonia. También están los viajes con tarjeta de identificación en Sudamérica, la libertad de movimiento en la UE, la prohibición israelí, etc. Espero que más usuarios puedan compartir su punto de vista para que podamos continuar. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 17:52, 22 de agosto de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Sí, he echado un vistazo a los artículos sobre los requisitos de visado que, según usted, tienen un código diferente y tampoco distinguen entre los países que exigen un visado antes de llegar y los países que permiten obtener un visado preaprobado a la llegada. De hecho, muchos países sí permiten obtener visados ​​preaprobados a la llegada y, por eso, personalmente, creo que esto debería hacerse diferenciable lo antes posible para mejorar aún más la precisión de nuestros mapas. Una vez hecho esto, podemos preocuparnos por las posibles anomalías que ha mencionado que existen (Asuntos públicos de China, grupo turístico de Bielorrusia, etc.) y hacer los ajustes necesarios a partir de ahí. Sin embargo, por ahora, debería darse prioridad a la distinción entre los países que exigen un visado preaprobados a la llegada y los países que exigen un visado antes de la llegada, ya que se aplicará a bastantes países. En este momento, el mapa cuyo código de colores debería utilizarse como modelo para los demás será "Requisitos de visado para ciudadanos británicos". No solo los países que requieren visa sin visa, visa a la llegada, visa E y visa a la llegada preaprobada están bien codificados por colores, el mapa también es muy agradable a la vista y no es tan llamativo como algunos de los otros (por ejemplo, el rojo en la página de requisitos de visa para ciudadanos de Singapur o el amarillo en Requisitos de visa para ciudadanos suizos ". ¡Felicitaciones por su gran trabajo una vez más, y espero trabajar con usted para mejorar la calidad de los artículos! - Basanth — Comentario anterior sin firmar agregado por 2401:7400:6000:210A:40E8:8B47:45E3:321F (discusión) 19:43, 22 de agosto de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Gracias. No estoy seguro de qué países de recogida de visas deberíamos colorear. ¿Todos o solo aquellos que no requieren un patrocinador local? Puede ver la mayoría de ellos y las reglas aquí: Requisitos de visa para ciudadanos de la Unión Europea # Recogida de visas aprobadas previamente . También estaba pensando en intercambiar los colores de la tabla entre visa a la llegada y evisa. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 19:54, 22 de agosto de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola, los países que permiten obtener un visado preaprobado a la llegada son aquellos que establecen la posibilidad de obtenerlo según los datos de la IATA. Por ejemplo, Burundi te permite obtener un visado a la llegada si tienes una carta emitida por inmigración de Burundi o Camerún que te permite obtener uno a la llegada si tienes una carta de Le Delegue General de la Surete. No colorees los países que te permiten obtener un visado a la llegada si eres de origen de ese país. Los países que ofrecen visados ​​preaprobados a la llegada como norma general son Azerbaiyán, Bielorrusia, Bután, Burundi, Camerún, Eritrea, Ghana, Liberia, Libia, Nauru, Nigeria, Pakistán, Sierra Leona, Sudán, Turkmenistán y Uzbekistán.

En cuanto a la visa a la llegada vs. la visa electrónica, creo que será una gran idea porque el azul es un color mucho más acogedor y amigable que el incierto color amarillo y será más aplicable para un proceso como la visa a la llegada.

¡Espero que esto ayude!

Basanth — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por 2401:7400:6000:210A:40E8:8B47:45E3:321F (discusión) 20:11 22 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola, sí, sé qué países lo ofrecen, pero países como Eritrea, Somalia o Turkmenistán lo permiten solo si el pasajero que llega tiene un patrocinador local. Todavía no estoy seguro de si esto debería agruparse con la simple recogida de visas preestablecida como en Bielorrusia, por ejemplo. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 22:31 22 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Turkmenistán solo lo permite con un patrocinador (como una agencia de turismo), es decir, incluso si se solicita a través de una embajada. Por lo tanto, realmente no hay condiciones adicionales para obtenerlo específicamente al llegar. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 19:32 23 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Creo que podemos incluirlos, porque en el caso de los tres, siempre que la parte que te invita envíe los documentos antes de la llegada, podrás retirar la visa. Es como en Bielorrusia, donde la parte que te invita envía los documentos 3 días antes de la llegada y tú retiras la visa en el aeropuerto. ¡Espero que esto te ayude! - Basanth — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por 2401:7400:6000:354C:2007:F420:526E:5BB9 (discusión) 05:18, 23 de agosto de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Espero que entiendas que será un proceso largo. Hasta ahora he logrado que el mapa para los ciudadanos búlgaros esté en línea con el de otros. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 16:00 27 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Lo entiendo. Creo que deberíamos darle prioridad a los que tienen un aspecto realmente feo (Singapur y Croacia) por el momento y, a partir de ahí, podemos ir resolviendo el resto poco a poco. Si hay alguna forma en que pueda ayudar con los mapas, ¡háganmelo saber! — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por 2401:7400:6000:394E:BD55:43D:4077:A1F8 ( discusión ) 05:00, 29 de agosto de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Vale, he actualizado lo de Singapur. En cuanto a Croacia, es mucho más complicado y llevará tiempo. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 18:20 29 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola. En el caso de Singapur, parece que se ha corregido la leyenda, pero el mapa sigue siendo el mismo. Deberías consultarlo cuando puedas. Gracias. — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por 2401:7400:6000:394E:BD55:43D:4077:A1F8 ( discusión ) 19:55, 29 de agosto de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola. Definitivamente he subido un nuevo archivo. Debes actualizarlo, o intentar borrar tu caché o hacer clic en esto: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Twofortnights/Visa_requirements_for_Singaporean_citizens?action=purge -- Twofortnights (discusión) 19:59 29 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Mis disculpas, ya lo veo. ¡Excelente trabajo como siempre! — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por 2401:7400:6000:394E:BD55:43D:4077:A1F8 ( discusión ) 20:42 29 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

¡Gracias!-- Twofortnights (discusión) 21:06 29 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Y he aquí que...

Por fin una respuesta sobre Irán :D http://oi59.tinypic.com/slk39h.jpg André Devecserii ( discusión ) 07:37 24 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

André Devecserii, lo siento, no vi este mensaje tuyo. Vi que actualizaron su página de Irán nuevamente, pero nuevamente no tiene sentido. Ahora dice que los ciudadanos de Georgia y Egipto pueden obtener visados ​​a la llegada por 45 y 20 días respectivamente. En primer lugar, los medios hablaron sobre la exención de visados. En segundo lugar, el gran anuncio de un visado a la llegada que es más corto que el resto (30 días) para los ciudadanos egipcios no tiene mucho sentido. Y finalmente no hicieron ninguna actualización sobre el Líbano. No sé qué pensar. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 15:47 27 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Twofortnights , sería genial si pudieras enviar un correo electrónico a IATA ([email protected]) y explicar todo lo que has descubierto que no tiene sentido. Sin embargo, hace unos días dijeron que estaban esperando la confirmación, así que tal vez podríamos hacerlo por un día o dos. ¿Qué opinas?
Esto es grave porque las aerolíneas basan sus requisitos de pasajeros en la información de la IATA. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 19:30 27 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos de visado para ciudadanos libaneses

Hola, he realizado adiciones y mejoras a esta página wiki y me he asegurado de proporcionar el enlace de referencia adecuado para cada bit de información posible. Revísalos y siéntete libre de eliminar aquello con lo que no estés de acuerdo, pero no deshagas todo. Saludos,

109.68.191.35 ( discusión ) 07:22 27 ago 2015 (UTC) LibanoGerman [ responder ]

Lo comprobaré, pero lamentablemente no basta con citar referencias. También hay que tener en cuenta las leyes de derechos de autor. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 15:49 27 ago 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Visa electrónica georgiana condicional

Hola, ¿dónde se indica que los ciudadanos de, por ejemplo, Afganistán o Somalia deben tener un visado o permiso de residencia de la OCDE/Schengen para poder optar a un visado electrónico? Cuando intento introducir los datos de estas nacionalidades y especificar que no tengo visado o permiso de residencia en un país de la OCDE/Schengen, sigue apareciendo que se me puede conceder un visado de entradas múltiples de 30 días si solo cargo una foto y el pasaporte.

Dado que usted tenía una referencia a esto, supongo que solía aplicarse, pero ya no.

Por otro lado, cuando introduzco las nacionalidades que no cumplen los requisitos (Nauru, etc.), rechazan la solicitud de inmediato, a menos que tenga un visado/permiso de residencia en uno de los 50 países "de los buenos", en cuyo caso puedo entrar sin visado durante 90 días en un período de 180 días. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 10:21 12 septiembre 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Tienes razón, parece que han cambiado esto. No sé cuándo porque no hubo anuncios. Entonces seguiré adelante y cambiaré el mapa. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 11:58 12 sep 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Gracias, sin embargo creo que se debería agregar al mapa también un "visa de la embajada requerida" o simplemente "visa requerida", porque a menos que lea el artículo uno podría pensar que todos pueden obtener una eVisa ya que es apenas visible que no todos pueden hacerlo. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 13:01 12 septiembre 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
¡Gracias! Lo arreglaré también. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 18:39 12 sep 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Twofortnights , perdón por molestarte por tercera vez, pero en primer lugar, dice que los ciudadanos de Kosovo son elegibles para la eVisa, pero en el sitio web, Kosovo literalmente ni siquiera está en la lista en la que puedes elegir tu nacionalidad.
En segundo lugar, podría ser útil distinguir entre visas electrónicas de 30 días en un período de 120 días (ciudadanos africanos y asiáticos) y de 90 días en un período de 180 días (ciudadanos de América Central y del Sur). Tal como se muestra en su mapa de la política de visas de Turquía André Devecserii ( discusión ) 22:35 12 septiembre 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
No hay problema, solo intento corregir ese artículo :) Pero no estoy seguro de dónde se menciona a Kosov. No se menciona en ninguna parte del artículo. Y tienes razón, los países generalmente ni siquiera incluyen esos lugares en disputa en su política de visas, por lo que no es de extrañar que no esté en el sitio web de eVisa.
En cuanto a la visa de 30 días y la de 90 días, ¿tiene una lista completa? ¿Y qué pasa con Oceanía? -- Twofortnights (discusión) 23:44 12 sep 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Al parecer, confundí a Macedonia con Kosovo. Los macedonios, junto con los habitantes de Oceanía ( incluido Timor Oriental , pero excluido Nauru, que no es elegible), aparentemente obtienen la versión 90/180 André Devecserii ( discusión ) 12:13 13 sep 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Y una cosa más: según el sitio oficial de Geoconsul, los chilenos todavía pueden quedarse sin visa por un máximo de 90 días en un período de 180 días, y los uruguayos por 90 días (para los pasaportes no ordinarios, es al revés, curiosamente). Sin embargo, Timatic no lo indica, sino que dice que los chilenos y uruguayos (excepto los diplomáticos/oficiales chilenos) necesitan una eVisa .
Sería bueno consultarlo con la IATA, pero he decidido renunciar a ellos porque han dejado de reconocer cualquier correo que he enviado desde julio (excepto el de Irán).
Esto es para pasaportes ordinarios https://www.geoconsul.gov.ge/HtmlPage/Html/View?id=25&lang=Eng
Y esto es para pasaportes no ordinarios https://www.geoconsul.gov.ge/HtmlPage/Html/View?id=28&lang=Eng André Devecserii ( discusión ) 13:20 13 sep 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Ya veo. Creo que todo esto complicaría demasiado el mapa, podría eliminar toda la información sobre la duración de la estancia del mapa. Porque tal como está, necesitaríamos 1 año sin visa, 90 días sin visa, eVisa, visa complementaria de 30 días, visa complementaria de 90 días (que ambos tienen la eVisa correcta) y países que requieren visa. Veré si puedo meterlo todo en un solo mapa, si no, eliminaré la referencia sobre la duración de la estancia. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 15:46 13 sep 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola,

En cuanto a los requisitos de visa para ciudadanos colombianos, creo que podrían ser más objetivos y neutrales con respecto a Colombia y hacer un mejor artículo, como el de Chile o Argentina, que incluya diferentes colores para la libre circulación dentro de los países sudamericanos y un mejor mapa e información actualizada.

¿Dijo que mi fuente no era confiable? La obtuve del Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores de Colombia. ¿Entonces sus fuentes son más confiables? Podemos permanecer en Georgia 365 días. No necesitamos visa para ir a Cuba. Trate a los colombianos con objetividad, es mi pedido.

Un cordial saludo, — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por Noirdesir1 ( discusióncontribs ) 08:34, 26 de septiembre de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola,

En cuanto a los requisitos de visa para ciudadanos colombianos, creo que podrían ser más objetivos y neutrales con respecto a Colombia y hacer un mejor artículo, como el de Chile o Argentina, que incluya diferentes colores para la libre circulación dentro de los países sudamericanos y un mejor mapa e información actualizada.

¿Dijo que mi fuente no era confiable? La obtuve del Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores de Colombia. ¿Entonces sus fuentes son más confiables? Podemos permanecer en Georgia 365 días. No necesitamos visa para ir a Cuba. Los colombianos tampoco necesitan visa para ir a Guyana o Surinam. Traten a los colombianos con objetividad, es mi pedido.


Un cordial saludo, — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por Noirdesir1 ( discusióncontribs ) 08:37 26 sep 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Debes proporcionar una fuente verificable válida para tu afirmación, no tiene nada que ver conmigo sino con las reglas de Wikipedia. Y las fuentes dicen que los colombianos necesitan una visa para Guyana , Surinam y Cuba (tarjeta de turista para ser precisos) y en cuanto a Georgia tienes razón, así que lo arreglé. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 10:35 26 sep 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Entrada al Kurdistán sin visado

Está bien, parece que he encontrado una fuente sobre este tema que realmente responde a los correos: un funcionario de inmigración en el aeropuerto de Sulaimaniyah llamado Handren Hiwa. Le pregunté antes si las visitas sin visa todavía eran posibles (porque había oído rumores de lo contrario). Ahora le he pedido que especifique exactamente qué países pueden visitar los ciudadanos sin visa (esperemos que sea preciso al enumerarlos). André Devecserii ( discusión ) 06:06 28 sep 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Vale, gracias. Pero eso debe publicarse para que podamos usarlo como fuente. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 17:58 28 sep 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Twofortnights Aquí está, lo adjuntó en su correo. [29] Para su referencia, este es el correo en sí [30]
Ni el sitio del gobierno ni la IATA están del todo en lo cierto, aunque la IATA fue mucho más precisa: dicen que los ciudadanos de Australia, Austria, Bélgica, Brasil, Bulgaria, Canadá, Croacia, Chipre, República Checa, Dinamarca, Estonia, Finlandia, Francia, Alemania, Grecia, Hungría, Islandia , Irán, Irlanda (Rep.), Italia, Japón, Corea (Rep.), Kuwait, Letonia, Liechtenstein, Lituania, Luxemburgo, Malta, Países Bajos, Nueva Zelanda, Noruega, Polonia, Portugal, Qatar, Rumania, Eslovaquia, Eslovenia, España, Suecia, Turquía, Estados Unidos, Emiratos Árabes Unidos y Ciudad del Vaticano (Santa Sede) . También enumeran al Reino Unido por separado.
Islandia y el Vaticano (en negrita) no están en la lista que obtuve. Suiza sí está en la lista, a diferencia de Timatic.
La pregunta es: ¿podría ser que la lista que obtuve excluya accidentalmente a los islandeses y al Vaticano debido a un descuido?
Una cosa es segura: informaré de esto a la IATA (con el correo y la lista adjunta). Si deciden no considerarlo, que así sea, pero lo intentaré. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 10:07 30 sep 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
¡Gracias! Podrían ser ambas cosas, ya que he visto casos aún peores como este de Vanuatu - [31] Sí, ese es el documento oficial, y escribieron que Western Union está exento de visa antes de cambiarlo a Samoa Occidental (que es también el nombre que no se usa) y luego subieron este mismo documento en forma escaneada a su sitio web oficial. Por otro lado, podría haber un error en la base de datos de IATA. Supongo que lo averiguaremos pronto. ¡Manténganme informado! -- Twofortnights (discusión) 15:42 30 sep 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Twofortnights No, la IATA no se molestará. Honestamente, me parece extremo de su parte, ya que en realidad proporcioné material de un oficial.
¿Cómo seguimos a partir de aquí, dado que hay tres versiones de su política de visas?
Llamemos al sitio web del gobierno kurdo "la primera lista", a la lista de la guardia fronteriza en Sulaymaniyah "la segunda lista" y a la IATA "la tercera lista".
Los nacionales de Andorra, Mónaco y San Marino no necesitan visado según la primera lista.
Los nacionales de Corea del Sur necesitan una visa según la primera lista.
Los nacionales de Islandia necesitan un visado según la segunda lista.
Los nacionales de Suiza necesitan un visado según la tercera lista.
Los nacionales de la Ciudad del Vaticano no necesitan visa según la tercera lista.
Por ahora he enumerado todos los países en una edición de la política de visas de Irak.
¿Qué opinas...? André Devecserii ( discusión ) 11:52 5 oct 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Twofortnights Todavía estoy esperando tu opinión sobre el tema André Devecserii ( discusión ) 15:46 6 octubre 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Esto es un poco confuso. Recomiendo no incluir información que se recibió por correo electrónico porque según las reglas de Wikipedia no podemos usar material no publicado como fuentes. En cuanto a los otros dos, se pueden incluir, ya lo hice con la política de visas de Uganda, por ejemplo, o con Bangladesh, Tanzania también. Intentaré hacerlo aquí también. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 17:49 6 oct 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisito de visa china para San Marino.

No hay aeropuerto en San Marino, por lo que, en teoría, un ciudadano chino no puede acceder a San Marino sin una visa Schengen (debe transitar por Italia). ¿Debería agregarse esto en la página? — Comentario anterior sin firmar agregado por Ueutyi ( discusióncontribuciones ) 02:04, 6 de octubre de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

De hecho, en Torraccia hay un aeródromo para aviones más pequeños, además de un helipuerto en Borgo Maggiore . -- Twofortnights (discusión) 14:49 6 oct 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Nunca supe esto antes, gracias. — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por Ueutyi ( discusióncontribs ) 00:56, 7 octubre 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Política de visados

Vale, pero ¿puedo hacer una pregunta? ¿Por qué hay que cambiar los nombres de los países por otros más pequeños cuando están relacionados con pasaportes diplomáticos, de servicio y oficiales? ¿Por qué no se pueden mantener igual que el nombre original? — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por Jasonwu889 ( discusióncontribuciones ) 00:05, 29 de octubre de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Por la proporción. Los pasaportes diplomáticos se suelen emitir sólo a unas pocas decenas de personas: jefes de Estado, jefes de gobierno y embajadores con sus familias. Por tanto, los datos de los pasaportes diplomáticos no deberían tener el mismo espacio que los pasaportes normales, que poseen millones de personas. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 16:59 29 oct 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Política de visados ​​de Macedonia

Hola, en el mapa de visas para Macedonia dice que los serbios pueden visitar el país sin visa durante 90 días, pero Timatic dice 60 días.

He estado tratando de encontrar información oficial que confirme esto, pero sin éxito (no confío en la IATA en este caso porque sé de un par de errores en su información). André Devecserii ( discusión ) 15:06 1 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Solían tener un archivo .doc con muchos más datos donde decía cuántos días se permitían, pero el sitio web actual es muy pobre. Sin embargo, pude encontrar esto [32] y [33] -- Twofortnights (discusión) 15:37 1 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
¡Tienes razón! Y, sin embargo, Timatic dice que los serbios tendrán que esperar 60 días... Le enviaré un correo electrónico a la IATA al respecto. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 20:32 1 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola, me di cuenta de tu comentario sobre la sección de ciudadanos indios que viajan a Macedonia. La base de datos Timatic mencionó la política de exención de visa para ciudadanos indios que viajan a Macedonia tanto en "información de visa de Macedonia" como en "requisitos de visa para ciudadanos indios", aunque no se menciona esto en el sitio web oficial de política de visas de Macedonia. ¿Podría ser un error de la base de datos Timatic o quizás el sitio web oficial de política de visas de Macedonia aún no se ha actualizado? Charlies280590 —Comentario anterior sin fecha agregado a las 13:46, 28 de mayo de 2017 (UTC) [ responder ]

Por ahora yo diría que se trata de un fallo en la base de datos de Timatic ya que no hay ninguna mención de esto en ningún otro lugar. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 15:36 28 may 2017 (UTC) [ responder ]

Relevancia de la comparación de visas francesas

Hola, se ha dicho que los pasaportes de EE. UU. y Francia están entre los pasaportes "más fuertes" del mundo (es decir, permiten ingresar a un número máximo de países sin visa). Intenté estudiar los países sin visa entre EE. UU. y Francia para ver dónde se encuentran y creo que es relevante que los franceses sepan dónde necesitan una visa a diferencia de los ciudadanos estadounidenses. ¿Por qué cree que no es relevante? — Comentario anterior sin firmar agregado por Bouzinac ( discusióncontribuciones ) 06:52, 2 de noviembre de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

No tiene relevancia porque no hay ninguna fuente confiable publicada que haya tratado este tema, por lo tanto todo cae dentro de la política de Wikipedia:No investigación original ( cualquier análisis o síntesis de material publicado que sirva para llegar o implicar una conclusión no establecida por las fuentes ). Fácilmente podrías compararlo con el británico, y luego con otros de peor reputación como el argelino o el iraquí, etc., y tener diez páginas de estas comparaciones que no sirven para nada. Si puedes escribir la comparación que respete la Wikipedia:Verificabilidad , entonces está bien. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 08:40 2 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Documentos de identidad para Moldavia

Hola, tengo un problema con esto. El otro día viajé en tren nocturno de Bucarest a Chisinau y descubrí que al menos en la frontera terrestre de Ungheni (por donde pasa el tren), parece que siguen en vigor las antiguas normas para los documentos de identidad, según las cuales deben ser biométricos.

Yo compartía litera con un ciudadano francés y ambos teníamos únicamente documentos de identidad. El mío (sueco) es biométrico (también tiene el logotipo), mientras que el suyo no.

Los guardias moldavos se mostraron muy escépticos con nuestras dos tarjetas y se las llevaron para examinarlas y escanearlas. Cuando volvieron 30 minutos después, me dijeron que podía continuar, mientras que el francés fue arrestado (con esposas y todo) y arrojado del tren. Cuando les pregunté en mi rumano mediocre (no hablaban nada de inglés) qué estaba pasando, respondieron que habían comprobado y que su documento de identidad francés no era válido porque no era biométrico y que había infringido la ley de inmigración (unas cuantas cosas).

Les mostré el documento oficial en PDF, a lo que asintieron (reconociendo que el documento era genuino) pero dijeron que "actualmente no se aplica aquí" (supongo que se referían a ese cruce fronterizo).

No volví a ver al ciudadano francés.

Al salir del aeropuerto de Chisinau, nadie mostró escepticismo hacia mi tarjeta, aunque el controlador la examinó con mucho cuidado. No vi ningún caso en el que se utilizara un documento de identidad no biométrico, por lo que no puedo decir nada.

¿Crees que esto debería afectar a la información de Wikipedia? Está claro que, si las nuevas normas se han aplicado, no parecen aplicarse en las fronteras terrestres (al menos no en Ungheni). André Devecserii ( discusión ) 11:58 6 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Vaya, esa historia es una locura. No puedo creer que lo esposaran en lugar de simplemente negarle la entrada.
En cuanto a Wikipedia, desafortunadamente creo que se aplica el principio Wikipedia: Verificabilidad, no verdad . Si Moldavia indica en su sitio web oficial que se pueden utilizar documentos de identidad, entonces eso es todo. Podría ser fácilmente un cruce fronterizo clandestino donde extorsionan dinero, etc. No podemos saberlo con certeza.
Mientras estamos en esto, las referencias n.° 2 y 3 del artículo sobre la política de visados ​​de Moldavia están rotas. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 19:42 6 nov 2015 (UTC)' [ responder ]
Corregido André Devecserii ( charla ) 19:57, 6 de noviembre de 2015 (UTC) [ respuesta ]

Irán

Han notificado a la IATA el nuevo régimen de visados ​​:) [34] André Devecserii ( discusión ) 16:40 9 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Sí, aunque nuevamente está incompleto. No se menciona a Egipto por separado, que fue mencionado bastante en los medios como una nueva nación sin visado. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 00:27 11 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Sinceramente, creo que Irán está actuando con lentitud, de ahí las demoras. Está avanzando paso a paso. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 01:16 11 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Bueno, aquí está finalmente la confirmación de los medios - [35]-- Twofortnights (discusión) 16:15 11 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Lamentablemente no se especifica qué países son: Egipto, Georgia y Líbano, por ejemplo, la información sobre ellos varía. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 10:55 14 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

¿Entonces tienes un problema con mi edición sobre los requisitos de visa para ciudadanos rumanos ? Adelante, responde si no te gusta lo que hice. Daybreak Jobbo ( discusión ) 22:55 15 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Básicamente tienes dos opciones: 1) Guardar esta revisión para eliminar mi última contribución o 2) Dejarla como está y mantener esa boca cerrada. Daybreak Jobbo ( discusión ) 22:58 15 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Deberías buscar ayuda profesional.-- Twofortnights (discusión) 23:21 15 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
WTF, ¿cuál es tu problema, Daybreak Jobbo ? Podrías parecer respetable si realmente brindaras explicaciones constructivas con respecto a tus ediciones en lugar de insultar a cualquiera que no esté de acuerdo con tu forma de hacer las cosas. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 13:58 17 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Mapas de políticas para los ciudadanos rumanos

Hola, ¿podrías echarle un vistazo al mapa de políticas para viajes con documento de identidad para rumanos? Contiene un par de errores (por ejemplo, dice que exigen pasaporte para Groenlandia e Islandia (!!!)) André Devecserii ( discusión ) 14:37 17 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Es cierto que hay algunos errores, pero uno de los pocos archivos que no actualizo regularmente son los de la página en rumano. Debes ponerte en contacto con el usuario Laurentiu Popa, que está activo en ese artículo. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 18:25 17 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Además, Malawi ahora exige visado a la llegada, Santo Tomé no exige visado, Indonesia no exige visado y Burundi exige visado a la llegada. Podría haber más errores. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 18:27 17 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Política de visados ​​del Congo Democrático

Hola, en los mapas de requisitos de visa para los ciudadanos de *insertar país* que necesitan una visa para la RDC, la RDC está marcada en gris, lo que indica que las visas deben obtenerse en las embajadas pase lo que pase.

De hecho, los viajeros que llegan de países sin embajada de la República Democrática del Congo pueden obtener un visado a su llegada siempre que obtengan una confirmación por adelantado, que yo mismo agregué al artículo sobre la política de visados ​​de la República Democrática del Congo. La IATA no lo reconoce, pero lo dice claramente en el sitio web oficial e incluso les envié un correo para preguntarles y recibí una confirmación de que la información estaba actualizada.

Por lo tanto, la República Democrática del Congo debería estar marcada como "rojo-gris" y no como gris en los mapas de requisitos para los ciudadanos extranjeros que necesitan una visa para la República Democrática del Congo. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 12:02 21 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Vale, pero ¿podría proporcionarme referencias de las reclamaciones en la embajada de Berlín? Además, ¿qué tiene de extraordinario este procedimiento? En algunos países, la recogida de visados ​​existe principalmente en teoría, ya que está reservada únicamente para visitas VIP. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 13:45 21 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
Este procedimiento no es nada extraordinario. Dice claramente aquí (traduciendo de forma libre pero precisa): "Visa Volant: autorización concedida por el director general a un extranjero procedente de un país sin representación de la RDC, que le permite llegar a la frontera y obtener un visado a su llegada. También se concede a las personas invitadas por el gobierno de la RDC.
Aunque en 2013 un finlandés que conozco (que también reside en Finlandia) fue a Kinshasa de esta manera, era un turista normal y corriente. Además del pasaporte, tuvo que mostrar sus tarjetas de embarque para demostrar que su punto de origen era un país sin representación de la RDC.
Sin embargo, si quieres, puedo escribir una carta a la dirección general (sé francés) y preguntar.
En cuanto a la embajada en Berna, no tengo ninguna fuente oficial al respecto, pero lo descubrí llamándolos, así que haré que lo eliminen. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 14:13 21 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]
No, no hay problema, no es necesario escribirle a DRC GD, solo me preguntaba si la "autorización otorgada por el director general" es algo que no se proporciona tan fácilmente. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 17:30 21 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

¡Las elecciones de ArbCom ya están abiertas!

Hola,
parece que cumples los requisitos para votar en las elecciones actuales del Comité de Arbitraje . El Comité de Arbitraje es el panel de editores responsable de llevar a cabo el proceso de arbitraje de Wikipedia . Tiene la autoridad de promulgar soluciones vinculantes para las disputas entre editores, principalmente relacionadas con problemas graves de comportamiento que la comunidad no ha podido resolver. Esto incluye la capacidad de imponer prohibiciones de sitios , prohibiciones de temas , restricciones de edición y otras medidas necesarias para mantener nuestro entorno de edición. La política de arbitraje describe las funciones y responsabilidades del Comité con mayor detalle. Si deseas participar, puedes revisar las declaraciones de los candidatos y enviar tus elecciones en la página de votación . Para el Comité de Elecciones, MediaWiki message delivery ( discusión ) 17:03, 24 de noviembre de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Archivo:Pasaporte de San Cristóbal y Nieves.jpg incluido para discusión

Un archivo que usted cargó o modificó, Archivo:Pasaporte de San Cristóbal y Nieves.jpg, ha sido incluido en Wikipedia:Archivos para discusión . Por favor, lea la discusión para ver por qué ha sido incluido (es posible que tenga que buscar el título de la imagen para encontrar su entrada). Siéntase libre de agregar su opinión sobre el asunto debajo de la nominación. Gracias. Marchjuly ( discusión ) 04:32 29 nov 2015 (UTC) -- Marchjuly ( discusión ) 04:32 29 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

VOA limitada

Hola Twofortnights,

Me encontré con muchos artículos que categorizan a algunos países como "VOA limitada". ¿Qué criterios deben cumplir las condiciones de entrada para que se considere a su respectivo país como "VOA limitada"? ¿Grupos de edad? ¿Aprobación? ¿Carta de invitación? ¿Permiso de residencia en otros países? ¿Visas sustitutivas? ¿Grupos de edad? Exactamente...

Espero su respuesta, Saludos, Joseph Sakr JoeSakr1980 (discusión) 17:24 30 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola. Por lo general, eso significa que no es un procedimiento sencillo, sino que los solicitantes necesitan una carta de aprobación, un patrocinador local, documentos enviados con anticipación, etc. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 19:04 30 nov 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

¿Por qué quitaron la bandera de Egipto?

En el artículo Visa Waiver Program , hay banderas para Omán, Argentina, .... -- Omda4wady ( discusión ) 07:29 2 dic 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Las banderas son solo para los países elegibles. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 19:11 2 dic 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Política de visados ​​de Rusia

Hagan algo con ese tipo que sigue revirtiendo nuestras ediciones. Saludos. — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por JoeSakr1980 (discusión • contribuciones ) 21:31, 4 de diciembre de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Lamentablemente, no puedo hacer mucho con respecto al vandalismo. Gracias por luchar contra el vandalismo. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 11:55 5 dic 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Denuncia de vandalismo

Hola,

¿Cómo se puede denunciar una dirección IP por vandalismo?

Saludos, Joseph SakrJoeSakr1980 (discusión) 20:10 7 dic 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

No estoy seguro dado que es un rango de IP dinámico.-- Twofortnights (discusión) 22:55 7 dic 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Visado para la República Checa

Hola, el cambio más reciente se refiere a Palau, pero se refiere a la relación y el acuerdo entre la UE y Tonga. Que tengas un buen día. Jan — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por JanPodany ( discusióncontribuciones ) 15:49, 9 de diciembre de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola, lo siento, el enlace debería ser http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/documents-publications/agreements-conventions/agreement/?aid=2015058 -- Twofortnights (discusión) 18:07 9 dic 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Política de visados ​​de Turquía

Hola,

En cuanto a tu publicación, eliminé la sección "VoA eliminada gradualmente" porque solo dice que ya no está disponible y que se reemplaza por la visa electrónica. Por otro lado, incluí el punto de que los visitantes de ciertos países que cumplen los requisitos para obtener visas electrónicas pueden obtenerlas a su llegada a través de quioscos. Visité Turquía el verano pasado (julio) en un viaje desde Dubai, donde mi compañero emiratí pudo obtener una visa electrónica en los quioscos disponibles en el Aeropuerto Internacional de Estambul por una tarifa determinada que definitivamente era más de $ 20, pero no recuerdo la cantidad exacta, además, el personal del aeropuerto no fue muy amable y dijo que deberíamos haberla obtenido de antemano. No estoy seguro de si los quioscos todavía están disponibles en este momento, pero supongamos que lo están hasta que haya una prueba/referencia de que ya no lo están.

En cuanto a la sección "A partir de la derecha", tienes razón en el punto de que cada ciudadano normalmente tendría derecho a residir en su país, pero para señalar que los ciudadanos de la TRNC (que desde el punto de vista de Turquía es un país autosuficiente) también disfrutan de la libertad de residencia/trabajo tanto como los ciudadanos turcos. Todos los nacionales de la TRNC, ya sean ciudadanos o nacionales naturalizados, son elegibles y pueden solicitar y obtener un pasaporte turco. Sin embargo, a los ciudadanos turcos solo se les conceden 90 días a partir de la entrada a la TRNC a través del aeropuerto de Ercan, al que solo se puede acceder a través de las aerolíneas turcas (THY, Atlas Global, Peagasus, Onur Air y Borajet) a través de los puertos turcos.

No dudes en contactarme en cualquier momento, Joseph Sakr — Comentario anterior sin firmar añadido por JoeSakr1980 (discusión • contribuciones ) 22:41, 12 de diciembre de 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Revisor de cambios pendientes

Hola. A su cuenta se le ha otorgado el derecho de usuario " revisor de cambios pendientes ", lo que le permite revisar las ediciones de otros usuarios en páginas protegidas por cambios pendientes. La lista de artículos que esperan revisión se encuentra en Special:PendingChanges , mientras que la lista de artículos que tienen activada la protección de cambios pendientes se encuentra en Special:StablePages .

El hecho de que se le concedan derechos de revisor no le otorga estatus ni cambia la forma en que puede editar artículos. Si no desea este derecho de usuario, puede pedirle a cualquier administrador que lo elimine en cualquier momento.

Ver también:

¡Gracias por esta herramienta Berean Hunter!-- Twofortnights (discusión) 18:24 17 dic 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos de visa para ciudadanos taiwaneses

Hola,

¿Podrías revisar este artículo? Parece haber una discrepancia entre el recuento informado por Henley y el número de países indicados en el mapa/tabla.

Saludos cordiales, Joseph Saker JoeSakr1980 (discusión) 00:17 22 dic 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola. Siempre hay una pequeña discrepancia, pero ese artículo requiere una revisión completa. La línea que eliminaste era una tontería de investigación original. Sucede muy a menudo que los vándalos hacen eso, para aumentar el número de destinos sin visa o la clasificación de pasaportes. No le veo el sentido, pero lo hacen todo el tiempo. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 08:54 22 dic 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

No lo sabía antes

Hola, no sabía que el texto tenía derechos de autor. Pensé que la información debería coincidir con la de la referencia para mayor precisión. Ahora sé más.

Saludos cordiales, J.Sakr 31.209.107.137 ( discusión ) 00:29 27 dic 2015 (UTC) [ responder ]

Feliz año nuevo

¡Mis más sinceros deseos de esperanza, felicidad y paz durante estas fiestas y durante todo el 2016! Norvikk ( discusión ) 15:27 2 enero 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

¡Gracias Norvikk ! Te deseo un Feliz Año Nuevo y todo lo mejor para el 2016. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 15:56 2 enero 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
¡Gracias! Norvikk ( discusión ) 21:04 6 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Notificación de enlace de desambiguación para el 3 de enero

Hola. Gracias por tus recientes modificaciones. Wikipedia agradece tu ayuda. Sin embargo, hemos notado que cuando editaste Visa policy of Ethiopia , agregaste un enlace que apunta a la página de desambiguación Somali . Estos enlaces casi siempre son involuntarios, ya que una página de desambiguación es simplemente una lista de títulos de artículos del tipo "¿Quiso decir…?". Lee las preguntas frecuentes  • Únete a nosotros en el WikiProject de DPL .

Está bien eliminar este mensaje. Además, para dejar de recibir estos mensajes, siga estas instrucciones de cancelación de suscripción . Gracias, DPL bot ( discusión ) 09:02, 3 de enero de 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Política de visados ​​de Turquía

Hola,

En cuanto a los informes de los medios de comunicación que sugieren que Qatar y Turquía han abolido mutuamente las visas, ¿se mencionó algo sobre la implementación? Timatic no ha actualizado sus registros. Además, los ciudadanos qataríes aún pueden obtener una visa electrónica en línea pagando un total de 28 USD.

En cuanto al cambio del régimen de visados ​​para los ciudadanos sirios, ¿debería Siria ser un país exento o un país cuyos ciudadanos se beneficien del régimen sin visado bajo ciertas condiciones? Dado que la mayoría de las principales ciudades sirias no tienen fronteras con Turquía y la gran mayoría de los sirios residen en el extranjero de todos modos.

Saludos, Joseph SakrJoeSakr1980 (discusión) 22:28 4 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

¡Hola! Bueno, cuando se trata del acuerdo entre Turquía y Qatar, hay muy poca información sobre si se trata de un acuerdo firmado mutuamente o algún tipo de promesa de hacer una ordenanza, etc. En lo que respecta a los ciudadanos turcos que van a Qatar, Timatic se actualizó: [36] "Se requiere visa, excepto para nacionales de Turquía para una estadía máxima de 30 días". Pero lo que me confundió es que en la otra dirección no hubo actualizaciones, ni en Timatic ni en el sitio web consular turco. ¿Turquía engañó a Qatar o simplemente Turquía no actualizó su sitio web ni notificó a la IATA? No tengo idea. En cuanto a los sirios, bueno, la política principal es que no se requiere visa, así que mantendría eso. La excepción es solo para aquellos que vienen de terceros países. La mayoría de los sirios que van a Turquía vienen directamente de Siria y no en avión desde algún otro lugar. Esto se debe a que la mayoría de los sirios en estos días van a Turquía para transitar hacia un tercer país. ¿Por qué volverían a Turquía después de haber llegado a un tercer país? No tiene sentido. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 22:54 4 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos de visa para ciudadanos de los Estados Unidos

Recientemente revirtió un cambio en los requisitos de visa para ciudadanos de los Estados Unidos que fue realizado por un usuario de IP. No incluyó un resumen de la edición, por lo que no sé por qué revirtió al usuario. Quiero informarle que el material agregado (que Burundi ya no permite "Visa al llegar") era correcto. Revertí la edición y agregaré una cita en breve. (Por favor, haga ping cuando haya alguna respuesta) Etamni  |  ✉  |  ✓  15:08, 5 de enero de 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola Etamni . Burundi introdujo las visas a principios de 2015 y esto se refleja en el sitio web del Departamento de Estado, que dice que a partir de abril de 2015 se requieren visas. Sin embargo, se cree que esto se hizo en relación con las elecciones presidenciales de Burundi de 2015 que tuvieron lugar en julio. La base de datos de la IATA se actualizó en octubre de 2015 para reflejar la actualización más reciente, que es el regreso de la visa a la llegada a Bujumbura. Espero que esto aclare las cosas. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 15:32 5 enero 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
Añadí una segunda referencia al artículo: [37] que parece ser un sitio oficial de la embajada, y que también apoya la afirmación de que la visa debe solicitarse con antelación... Etamni  |  ✉  |  ✓  15:34, 5 de enero de 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
Etamni , esa página se veía exactamente igual en 2014 cuando la visa a la llegada estaba definitivamente en vigencia - [38]-- Twofortnights (discusión) 15:48 5 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Gracias

Hola, gracias por tus modificaciones. ¡Feliz Navidad y próspero año nuevo! Me preguntaba de dónde eres y por qué te interesan tanto los artículos sobre visas.

Estimado usuario: Albatalad, gracias, ¡felices fiestas para ti también! Soy un ciudadano del mundo :) Hay un gran interés en los artículos relacionados con los requisitos de visa, cientos de miles de visitas cada mes y, sin embargo, estos artículos no recibieron mucha atención antes y estaban llenos de errores. Además, las políticas de visas cambian a diario, por lo que alguien debe realizar un seguimiento para mantener los artículos actualizados. También hay un ejército de trolls que editan artículos sobre requisitos de visa para agregar información obviamente falsa, por lo que si nadie estuviera vigilando esos artículos, de repente leerás en Wikipedia que los ciudadanos de Pakistán pueden ingresar a los EE. UU. sin visa y que los ciudadanos británicos necesitan una visa para Francia, etc. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 19:03, 6 de enero de 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
Jajaja me alegraste el día, es cierto, antes los artículos eran basura, pero todavía no estoy satisfecho con la respuesta del "ciudadano del mundo" :/
Supongo que significa que tiene un pasaporte mundial. Una suposición arriesgada sería Australia, el Reino Unido o Nueva Zelanda, dado su uso de la palabra "fortnight". Podría estar equivocado; de nuevo, es una suposición arriesgada. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 08:05 7 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
Tema interesante. Me interesan dos aspectos. El señor o la señora Twofortnights. Hablo con el señor. De repente no está bien. Y la religión. ¿Cómo felicitar? "Feliz Navidad y Año Nuevo" o "Fiestas de Año Nuevo". ¿Y si es ateo o musulmán? Situación incómoda. -- Norvikk ( discusión ) 22:47 1 may 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

"Visa a la llegada" para los Emiratos Árabes Unidos

Hola, solo quería informar que la "visa a la llegada" para los Emiratos Árabes Unidos es en realidad una exención de visa. A pesar de lo que dice Timatic, las visas para los Emiratos Árabes Unidos no se emiten en los puertos de entrada. Es solo que los ciudadanos de la UE/AELC (excepto el Reino Unido/Irlanda) están exentos durante 90 días dentro de 180 días, y los demás durante 30 días.

Por lo tanto, la leyenda dorada en el mapa de políticas debería eliminarse y reemplazarse con la leyenda azul existente. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 02:09 10 enero 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

André, no es así. Por ejemplo, uno de los dos estados miembros de la UE que no ha firmado este acuerdo con los Emiratos Árabes Unidos es el Reino Unido, y la embajada de los Emiratos Árabes Unidos en Londres tiene una explicación muy clara para los ciudadanos del Reino Unido: a los ciudadanos del Reino Unido (con derecho de residencia en el Reino Unido) se les concederá un visado de visita gratuito al llegar a los Emiratos Árabes Unidos. Lo mismo se puede encontrar en la página de la embajada de los Emiratos Árabes Unidos en Washington: no se requieren visados ​​para los ciudadanos estadounidenses (titulares de pasaportes normales) antes de la llegada a los Emiratos Árabes Unidos. Los visados ​​están disponibles a la llegada al aeropuerto y son válidos para una estancia de un (1) mes en los Emiratos Árabes Unidos. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 11:26 10 enero 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
Twofortnights , en el sitio web de Emirates dice: " Simplemente desembarque de su vuelo en el Aeropuerto Internacional de Dubai y proceda a Inmigración, donde su pasaporte será sellado con una visa de visita de 30 días sin cargo ".
En otras palabras, como en Sudáfrica, donde, además del sello de entrada, te dan un sello adicional (a veces llamado visado. Timatic también utiliza este término para Kurdistán). Ayer también me lo dieron en mi pasaporte sueco, así que claramente no hay diferencia aparte de la duración de la estancia (30 frente a 90). En realidad, no obtienes un visado por separado en un mostrador antes de pasar por inmigración, lo que, de nuevo, no es posible en los EAU.
Además, [39] ( Todos los visitantes necesitan una visa, a menos que sean de uno de estos países ). Y [40] ( Los ciudadanos de los siguientes países (titulares de pasaportes regulares) están exentos de la visa de los EAU :). Los países con "visa a la llegada" están incluidos en ambos
El hecho de que el Reino Unido e Irlanda no sean parte del acuerdo simplemente significa que sus ciudadanos permanecerán exentos de visa por sólo 30 días André Devecserii ( discusión ) 18:22 10 enero 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
Bueno, ese enlace de Emirates solo confirma lo que dicen las embajadas y Timatic: hay una visa a la llegada. Sé que es un simple sello como en cualquier otro lugar, pero por alguna razón lo llaman "visa a la llegada". Sería contrario a las reglas de investigación original que comentemos eso dentro del artículo, aunque es bastante obvio que no es comparable con la visa a la llegada en otros países (aunque hay otros ejemplos similares como Maldivas), sino que es más como una entrada de corta duración sin visa. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 18:34 10 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
Tal vez la exención de 90 días también debería llamarse visa a la llegada en ese caso, porque te dan dos sellos (un sello de permiso + un sello de entrada) ya seas británico/irlandés o de otro país de la UE/AELC, y los enlaces que proporcioné no hacen distinción entre el Reino Unido/Irlanda/EE. UU./Canadá/Australia y los países de la UE/AELC. Todos están agrupados en una única lista de exenciones. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 10:16 11 enero 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
Pero no es porque la UE haya firmado un contrato bilateral con los Emiratos Árabes Unidos que claramente lo llama una exención de visa. Como he dicho, no está claro por qué llaman a este sello visa a la llegada, pero eso es lo que hacen. En cuanto a las listas, rara vez actualizan nada en esa parte del mundo. Por ejemplo, Bahréin todavía no ha actualizado su página de evisa para incluir nuevas nacionalidades, aunque se pueden seleccionar en el sistema evisa. Los sitios web de Qatar son conocidos por la falta de información, especialmente para algunas exenciones más recientes, como los pasaportes polacos. Y aparentemente, la evisa de Omán ahora está disponible sin patrocinador, pero buena suerte para encontrarla en su página de la policía donde debe ingresar los datos del patrocinador en el formulario evisa. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 14:45, 11 de enero de 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Política de visados ​​de Albania

Hola, Albania tiene una política bastante extraña: aceptan documentos de identidad nacionales de ciudadanos de Australia, Canadá, Hong Kong, Kazajstán, Nueva Zelanda, Singapur y Corea del Sur. Estoy tratando de averiguar cuáles de estos países tienen documentos de identidad con información sobre la nacionalidad. Australia y Nueva Zelanda no, pero Kazajstán sí.

¿Qué pasa con Canadá, Hong Kong, Singapur y Corea del Sur? En Canadá, lo más parecido que se me ocurre es el permiso de conducir mejorado. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 10:05 11 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Los responsables de las políticas de visados ​​no están informados, eso es lo que pasa. Hay muchos países que tienen una exención de visado para Puerto Rico, Aruba o las Islas Cook, etc. Ninguno de ellos emite pasaportes independientes. Incluso la UE añadió las Islas Marianas del Norte a la lista de exenciones de visado, aunque este error se eliminó más tarde cuando alguien se dio cuenta de que no existe tal cosa como la ciudadanía y el pasaporte de las Islas Marianas del Norte. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 14:47 11 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
Está bien, ya lo he arreglado lo mejor que he podido. Sin embargo, ¿qué hacemos con Ucrania? Hay una inconsistencia entre las listas en inglés y en albanés, ya que la lista albanesa dice que solo los titulares de pasaportes no ordinarios están exentos de visa. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 18:31 11 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
Vale, pero no estoy seguro de dónde has encontrado la información sobre los ucranianos que necesitan visado. Tanto el archivo [41] como el [42] y Timatic indican que no. Se decidió en 2011: Albania permite a los ucranianos viajar sin visado durante tres meses. Twofortnights (discusión) 18:44 11 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
Como dije, la versión en albanés de la lista oficial, a la que accedí hoy manualmente ingresando al sitio web del Ministerio de Asuntos Exteriores, por lo que no hay ningún enlace de terceros antiguo. (Me vizë=visa requerida, y es la columna de la derecha la que se aplica a los titulares de pasaportes comunes).
Intentaré enviar un correo electrónico al Ministerio de Asuntos Exteriores de Albania para obtener una aclaración. André Devecserii ( discusión ) 18:59 11 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Política de visados ​​de Armenia

Hola,

¿Podrías volver a evaluar los países que figuran en la sección "Países exentos de visa"? Por alguna razón, Timatic afirma que algunos ciudadanos de los países incluidos en esa sección deben obtener la visa de turista, como Uruguay, Brasil y algunos otros.

Gracias. Joseph SakrJoeSakr1980 (discusión) 15:05 19 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Hola JoeSakr1980, esto se debe a que Armenia no notifica a la IATA a tiempo. Esos acuerdos entraron en vigor más recientemente (con Brasil el 25 de noviembre - [43]), por lo que supongo que llevará algún tiempo ver los cambios. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 16:01 19 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos de visado para ciudadanos tunecinos

Hola,

Acabo de enviar un informe a un moderador de Wikipedia llamado "Berean Hunter" sobre el Dr. Majdiii, que rompió la regla de las 3 ediciones y se involucró en una guerra de ediciones. He mencionado tu nombre un par de veces cuando fue apropiado. Puedes consultar el informe en la página de discusión.

Continúe con su arduo trabajo. Saludos, Joseph SakrJoeSakr1980 (discusión) 15:34 22 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Ok, gracias.-- Twofortnights (discusión) 21:55 22 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
JoeSakr1980, bueno, está de nuevo en ello, volviendo a usar la tecla mayúscula. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 14:37 23 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Requisitos de visado para ciudadanos de Tonga

Muchas gracias por tus ediciones. [44] ¿Puedo saber si hay alguna razón en particular por la que i. los países que son territorios dependientes deben estar listados por separado, ii. por lo general no aparecen en la mayoría de las listas similares, y iii. hubo varios usuarios que estaban tan ansiosos por eliminarlos sin ninguna explicación? 116.48.155.127 16:33, 22 de enero de 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Porque tratamos de mantener los artículos uniformes y si empezamos a añadir territorios dependientes y en disputa a la tabla principal será un lío porque la lista de dichas entidades es muy larga. En consecuencia, ninguno de los artículos sería uniforme. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 21:54 22 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

Tus extrañas y persistentes reversiones a un inglés destrozado

Estoy sinceramente desconcertado de que sigas recurriendo a una versión que tiene un inglés destrozado.

Tal vez alguien más pueda explicar por qué sus versiones en inglés destrozadas son mejores: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Visa_policy_of_the_United_States&oldid=701340964#Mangled_English.3F BushelCandle ( discusión ) 23:50 23 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]

BushelCandle, ¿te quedarías tan desconcertado si leyeras mis resúmenes de edición? Aquí está de nuevo, estás cortando el contenido del artículo, tratando de simplificar el inglés y también eliminando información que es importante. Entonces, de repente, una tabla que muestra solo a los que se quedaron más tiempo del permitido y que aún están en el país y que llegaron solo por aire y mar, ¿simplemente como "personas que se quedaron más tiempo del permitido"? Bueno, ¿cómo es eso aceptable? -- Twofortnights (discusión) 00:26 24 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
He leído sus resúmenes de edición una y otra vez como si fueran escrituras sagradas, pero todavía estoy desconcertado.
Permítanme dejar claro que no he realizado modificaciones en ninguna tabla, ¡¡¡EN ABSOLUTO  !!!
Por favor, vuelva a verificar y discúlpese, o indíqueme exactamente y con precisión qué texto cree que cambié (como lo hice aquí en: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Visa_policy_of_the_United_States&oldid=701340964#Mangled_English.3F
Realmente me desconcierta por qué (y qué) información crees que he eliminado. La parte sobre las personas que se quedan más tiempo del permitido y que llegan por aire o mar NO se modificó. ¿Por qué demonios crees que se modificó? BushelCandle ( discusión ) 00:34 24 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
Antes que nada, no hay necesidad de ponerse histérico, no les estoy gritando ni enviando múltiples signos de interrogación.
Ahora veo que tienes razón, la razón por la que pensé que lo habías eliminado fue porque hiciste algo con las nuevas líneas que colocaban tu edición en una línea alineada con otra diferente en diff, por lo que parecía que las habías eliminado a través del editor. Ahora he comprobado en el editor normal y tienes razón. Pero aún así no veo la razón para gritar. -- Twofortnights (discusión) 00:43 24 ene 2016 (UTC) [ responder ]
So, no apology for wasting my time with multiple careless reverting then. Just an accusation that I am "hysterical". How collegiate... BushelCandle (talk) 00:55, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You made snide and aggressive comments, what did you expect?--Twofortnights (talk) 01:02, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I expected a simple apology for twice reverting my edits with nonsensical and impertinent (in the original meaning of the word) edit summaries and then not bothering to double check even when I raised the revert issue (politely and non-hysterically, I thought) on the article's discussion page.
I did not expect to be accused of being "hysterical".
What was (or were) the "snide" comment(s)? BushelCandle (talk) 01:14, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh, not to be "that guy", but nothing is gained by being hostile towards each other. There was a misunderstanding, such things happen. All of us want to improve information, so let's stick to doing that. André Devecserii (talk) 01:27, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Minors travelling to South Africa

Hi, just wanted to ask if it is allowed, according to Wikipedia's guidelines, to add that an unaccompanied minor travelling to South Africa with no one to receive him/her needs to produce a return ticket, hotel reservation and proof of funds at the port of entry. Found this out via e-mail from an immigration officer at Cape Town Airport André Devecserii (talk) 01:31, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If you can source it, I've no idea why it wouldn't be "allowed" but, it's definitely acceptable at Wikivoyage, a sister project of the Wikimedia foundation. BushelCandle (talk) 03:28, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
BushelCandle- wrong. There needs to be a verifiable source meaning published as per Wikipedia:Verifiability.--Twofortnights (talk) 11:09, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
André Devecserii, we can't use it if they didn't publish it anywhere. But while we are at it, I believe that SA changed their rule regarding unabridged birth certificate for minors who are not SA citizens.--Twofortnights (talk) 11:09, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Could you try to find out if these changed are in force yet - [45]? Basically no more in person applications for those who live in a country without SA mission, easier process for China, India and Russia citizens, no more birth certificates for children on arrival just with visa application (unclear what happens with visa-free countries).--Twofortnights (talk) 11:17, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Twofortnights I know of these plans, and they have yet to be implemented (it says so on the website of the Swedish embassy in Pretoria and was implied by the imm. officer I mailed under the pretence of being a minor going to Cape Town alone for tourism).
Visa-exempt nationals currently need to present documentation for minors at the port of entry, nationals requiring a visa at the embassy whilst lodging the visa application. André Devecserii (talk) 02:24, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

E-visas for St. Kittians and Nevisians bound for the ROC

[46] Thought this would be of interest to you. ILBobby (talk) 19:23, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I already updated the Taiwan visa policy article to include the eVisa part.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:27, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Arab League Boycott of Israel

Nom, not that I'm aware off. But they they took those actions shortly after the Arab League placed that boycott on Israel. I got to beleive that their foreign policy is influenced by the Arab League's ones in such case Pakistan and Bangladesh offered sending troops to Yemen following the start of the ongoing conflict in Yemen.

Going out of topic, check this article out: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/01/visa-programme-restrictions-decried-hatuqa-160122194210349.html. If it's implemented already then probably the Visa waiver article should be updated as per appropriate.

Hi, yes I have added it [47]. As for the boycott, I remember that previously someone removed the Arab League from those countries (and I was the one to add it) that I've mentioned saying how it's not related.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:26, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kazakhstan Passport Stamps

Hi Twofortnights,

I noticed that you removed the photographs of the Kazakh passport stamps due to the fact that those were old ones. Yes, that is correct. I just visited Kazakhstan and have arrival and departure stamps in my passport! Would you like me to send those to you so that you can update the Kazakhstan page? Do advise on how I should send it to you if you are interested

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.53.78.52 (talk) 19:06, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You can upload it here and leave me a link to the image file. In addition you need to state your permission for me to use it and modify it for any purpose and the name you wish to be used as a copyright holder. Thanks.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:38, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. The link to the image is here http://imgur.com/Kwv1Uq5

You are free to use it and modify it for any purpose and the name of the copyright holder is Basanth Sadasivan. Also, I thought you should know that those stamps were issued at Almaty International Airport to a citizen of Singapore. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.53.78.52 (talk) 01:01, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK thanks. I have uploaded the file.--Twofortnights (talk) 01:15, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Looks very good- great job on your excellent work- I give you mad props for everything you've done for Wikipedia!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.53.78.52 (talk) 03:35, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of the Marshall Islands

You forgot to leave an edit summary saying why you didn't like the Visa on arrival section as a multicol list instead of a table. Kendall-K1 (talk) 14:45, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Third column had more entries than the other columns, that was the issue.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:18, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Russian visa-free regime for Mauritian citizens

Hello,

Well at first, I saw a user editing the visa requirements on the Visa requirements for Mauritian citizens yesterday. I've checked Timatic and it confirms that a visa is no longer needed. Having seen that an agreement have been signed earlier between the two parties made me thing that it's effective as of yesterday. So I went on to the Visa policy of Russia's article and included Mauritius in the visa exempt countries. I have no source stating ratification but Timatic should be enough as a source. I didn't know about the false report exct.. But do you think that ratification is needed? UAE citizens had visa free access to the Schengen region since signing the agreement on May 6 before it's ratification on December 2015.

By the way, do you work for IATA? How do you keep up with all the changes in visa policies of all the countries in real-time?

Have a nice day & regards, Joseph SakrJoeSakr1980 (talk) 22:59, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. First of all I don't work for IATA :) There are some tools to follow changes to visa policies but some of them got changed recently so it will also affect my ability to edit in "real-time" and will take more time to apply changes on Wikipedia.
As for Mauritius, I know because we already had this. I saw the IATA database was updated and someone also updated the article. The database was updated as soon as the agreement was signed. But user Norvikk which actively updates Russia related articles quickly pointed out that the agreement requires ratification plus a certain period, I think a month, before it enters into force. You may find this discussion on the talk pages somewhere. Anyway since there is no news on ratification I guess it goes back to signed not yet ratified category.--Twofortnights (talk) 00:13, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You can find the agreement here - [48] which says under effect - "no effect" and in agreement " This Agreement shall enter into force after 30 days from the date of receipt of the last written notification about the fulfillment by the Parties of internal procedures necessary for its entry into force,"--Twofortnights (talk) 00:22, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Turkey-Qatar visa exemption

Hello,

Remember when we discussed the media reports about Qatar and Turkey bilaterally abolishing visa requirements while Timatic maintains the voa/eVisa requirements for Qataris? Check out this tweet by the Qatari embassy in reply to a citizen's inquiry. It's in Arabic but you could translate it on Google. It states that a visa is required but could be obtained online at at Turkish airports.

https://twitter.com/QatarEmbTurkey/status/690630318227873792?s=09

Regards, Joseph Sakr JoeSakr1980 (talk) 03:56, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! This clears it. That's the oddest bilateral visa waiver I've seen, don't see how Qatar accepted it.--Twofortnights (talk) 09:47, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirements for kosovo citizens map

Hi, i've made an incomplete visa requirements map for kosovo citizens, it's here: http://s11.postimg.org/42c4taq6r/Visa_requirements_for_Kosovo_citizens.png do you mind fixing it and uploading it? Thanks in advance// Albatalab (talk) 19:07, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with Kosovo is that the data is inconsistent when we search through IATA. It's because some countries list on IATA that they allow everyone visa-free or visa on arrival entry. And IATA database includes Kosovo as a separate entry. So searching the Timatic database it will show that Kosovo passport holders may visit that country without a visa. But in reality this country does not recognise Kosovo as an independent country nor the passports that it issues. The same is true for Palestine. So I am not sure we can claim any accuracy in articles for visa requirements for Palestinians and Kosovans.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:32, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hello TwoFortNights,

Thanks for the barnstar you left on my talk page, much respect and regards. Keep up your good work

Joseph Sakr — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoeSakr1980 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa Policy of Mozambique

Hi Twofortnights,

I was taking a look at your article for Visa policy of Mozambique and would like to point out one factor that you might want to consider- I notice that Mozambique offers nationals of certain countries (Those without a Moz embassy) visa on arrival, while nationals of countries with a Moz embassy must get their visas beforehand.

You might want to make this difference known in the map for Visa policy of Mozambique (Perhaps shade the visa on arrival eligible countries in blue, non visa on arrival countries in red and visa free countries in green?) Doing this will make your fantastic page even more constructive

Great job on all your hard work once again, and thank you for everything you have done for Wikipedia! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.53.78.52 (talk) 00:20, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks! Yeah I wanted to do that a while ago, but I have a problem with conflicting sources on Mozambique visa policy. Some suggest one thing, some suggest another, so I kept the map only with the data that is in no way disputed. Hopefully Mozambique will soon update their webpages with the current policy.--Twofortnights (talk) 11:29, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Georgian visa policy

Hi, just so you know, I just found this. I assume due to Iran having done the same for Georgians André Devecserii (talk) 23:27, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Yes I saw that too, they recently announced that. I think that it's related to the Iranian visa-free days that was announced before and that they never bothered to inform IATA about.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:41, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa Policy of Egypt

Hi Twofortnights

I was looking at your page on the Visa policy of Egypt and noticed that 2 countries (Brunei and Singapore) are shaded in grey (N/A). Upon looking at the IATA data, it seems as though both countries are eligible for visa on arrival for up to 30 days (they should be shaded in light green on the map). Also, I found a more comprehensive list of which countries can obtain a visa on arrival via the Egyptian embassy in Vienna, Austria http://www.egyptembassyvienna.at/visas.htm And you might want to refer to this for more up-to-date information

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.53.78.52 (talk) 20:49, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks! I will update the map accordingly. Egyptian visa policy is such a mess.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:14, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed- you have done a fantastic job managing things though so keep it up!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.53.78.52 (talk) 23:22, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Cuba for US citizens

Hi Twofortnights,

I just wanted to keep you in the loop of a slight change I made to your otherwise fantastically well-managed page on Visa Requirements for U.S citizens! With regards to travel to Cuba, the U.S State department has been explicitly clear that travel to Cuba for U.S citizens is prohibited which is why I have changed to color code for cuba to black (I have included the U.S State department source about this) This black code is following the code we use for all other travel restrictions (E.g. Malaysians going to Israel and Vice Versa) or Israelis travelling to Saudi Arabia and Vice Versa. It is imperative that we make all travel bans known on this page to prevent people from getting false impressions about travel to Cuba. The map for Visa requirements for U.S citizens should also be shaded black where Cuba is for the time being

Hope this helps!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.53.78.52 (talk) 03:19, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. But is this actually enforced? I mean the US and Cuba just signed a contract that restores regular flights between the two countries - [49] --Twofortnights (talk) 22:18, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Twofortnights! The regular flights are for certain business people who have authorization to visit Cuba. However, as of right now, tourist travel is still prohibited with the exception of those who have a license- until that is lifted, Cuba has to be shaded in black for the time being — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.53.78.52 (talk) 03:25, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Hello,

Yeah I seems a bit funny if that's to why this users feel the need to vanladize.

Probably, in your spare time, I would appreciate it if you would check this page out Visa requirements for Taiwanese citizens and take appropriate action. There seem to be a high amount of vandalism and and unsupported info.

Regards, Joseph SakrJoeSakr1980 (talk) 21:48, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, OK but after dealing with too much vandalism on Chinese page and noticing that it's even worse on Taiwanese I didn't have the energy to deal with it. But I will look into it.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:19, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visas and Passport stamps for Tajikistan and Turkmenistan

Hi twofortnights, I recently travelled to both countries and have updated visas and passport stamps for both countries. Would you like me to send them to you to be used in the wikipedia article for both visa policies? I notice that the visa on display for Visa Policy of Tajikistan is from 2012 and is outdated, while there is no picture whatsoever for Turkmenistan

Let me know! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.53.78.52 (talk) 05:34, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, thanks! You can do it the same way as with the Kazakhstan stamps.--Twofortnights (talk) 12:36, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have uploaded both images here! http://imgur.com/a/qO6JM As always, both are in a Singapore passport and you have the freedom to use it in whatever way necessary. Copyright holder is Basanth Sadasivan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.53.78.52 (talk) 19:49, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

I don't mean to disturb you: but what software/website/etc. do you use regarding the makings of the "visa policy maps" and the "visa requirements map". I intend to use this information to make my own maps for different purposes. Thank you for taking the time to read this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whatshouldichoose (talk • contribs) 20:22, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Maps and Help

I apologize for disturbing you at the given moment, but: What software/website/etc. (something of that sort) do you use to make the "visa policy maps" and the "visa requirements maps" on the respective Wikipedia pages? Thank you for taking the time to read this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whatshouldichoose (talk • contribs) 20:27, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You can use literally any graphics program, even MS Paint will do.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:52, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Vanuatu Visa policy

Singapore is not shaded in red even though it is visa exempt- please clarify. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.53.78.52 (talk) 19:50, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

An omission, sorry.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:45, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa Requirements for Malagasy citizens

Hi twofortnights, I noticed that visa requirements for Malagasy citizens does not have a map, so I have created one in accordance with the data from IATA http://imgur.com/sRI5FUa Hope this helps! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.53.78.52 (talk) 20:17, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK but that map in particular cannot be used as it's clearly under mapchart copyright. I will recreate it under a right license. I will also try to upload your stamps soon.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:42, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Twofortnights- thanks for the tip-off- which software in particular do you use to make the maps under the right license? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.53.78.52 (talk) 23:24, 24 February 2016 (UTC) You can use literally any graphics program.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:41, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Visa policy of Lebanon

Hello

This user (192.43.227.18) is on 3 reverts now. I hereby request you to take appropriate measures to deal with the issue by protecting the page or blocking the offensive user if need be.

Thanks & Continue doing your great job. Joseph SakrJoeSakr1980 (talk) 15:33, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa Requirements for Malaysian Citizens - Updates

Thank you for the most current update on visa requirements for Malaysian citizens. Can't thank you enough. Having read through some of the threads in here, it is sad to say that the Malaysian authority has not updated its list of visa requirements for Malaysian citizens traveling to other countries. Pittedprunestravel (talk) 15:43, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa Requirements for Brazilian Citizens

Hi, First I'd like to say that I appreciate ur job! So, could you please update the map? At the Visa requirements section u can see that Malawi is actually Visa on arrival[118], but on the map is coloured grey, as if it was Visa Required. Thanks a lot — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.235.52.228 (talk) 01:44, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No problem.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:08, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa Requirements for Chinese Citizens

Hello there. As much as I appreciate your work, I do hope to point out that correcting your mistake is not vandalism. Your claim to the passport for public affairs being a normal passport is simply wrong, and the discussions have proven to be useless.

http://cs.mfa.gov.cn/zggmcg/hz/hzjj_660445/t1200748.shtml

This is the official source released by the Chinese government. Read the section on Service Passport. It clearly states that PPA is a variant of the Service Passport and its machine readable zone starts with PPCHN rather than POCHN. I do hope you can be reasonable and see for yourself. Use Google Translate if you have to. If you are still inconvenienced, have others translate it for you. Being a senior editor, it's important to get the facts from the official sources to maintain accuracy, rather than "figuring out" them when the real answer is right there. Many Chinese Wikipedia editors have repeatedly tried to correct your mistake with no avail and I guess you just to need to see some proof from the Chinese government.

If you need more references, the page Chinese passport has been updated as well. I dedicated a section regarding the differences between the "old" PPA and the current PPA. The PPA you mentioned was indeed a variant of the ordinary passport, but the government discontinued it in 2006. The current PPA is completely different from the old one with different issuing authorities and everything.

Once again, no disrespect here, just hoping you would come to your senses and correct this. I just hope you and the Chinese editors can settle this for once and all so we don't have to waste time on this subject.

By the way, Visa requirements for Taiwanese citizens has been overhauled, so feel free to look into it and make improvements.

C-GAUN (talk) 20:08, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry C-GAUN but you can see an extremely lengthy discussion on talk pages of Chinese articles that came to a clear conclusion it's a P ie. ordinary passport. If you want that changed you will have to present some new evidence rather than personal opinion. The link you gave clearly reiterates that the public affairs passport is a P type passport ie. version of an ordinary not a version of a PS type passport ie. special/service passport or PD type passport ie. diplomatic passport. Thanks.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:05, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry too but let me be absolutely clear: the CHINESE GOVERNMENT has declared it as a Service Passport, not you, not me, no any one else in the discussion. The first sentence of the Service Passport part on the webpage I gave you is an OFFICIAL PUBLICATION, which states "其中公务护照又分为公务、公务普通两个类别", which translates to "the service passports are divided into two types: the Service Passport and the PPA". End of story here. Your evidence clearly cannot triumph over the decision of Chinese Government. I am simply following the accuracy rule, and please don't credit a decision made by the government as "my original research". Passport types are irreverent to what the government says.C-GAUN (talk) 21:30, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here's more proof: Article 4 of the Passport Law:

http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/ywzn/lsyw/vpna/faq/t710009.htm

Read the biodata page of PPA again: it was issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which means it's NOT considered as an Ordinary passport.

Again, I have hoped you can open your mind to listen to some voices of reason, I've posted official documents and laws, NONE OF WHICH are my original research, but a decision taken by the Chinese government.C-GAUN (talk) 21:42, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

Thank you so much Seligne!--Twofortnights (talk) 08:41, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Conversations

Good evening. I did changes in article Visa policy of Russia recently. We spoke about Mauritius. You ignore me after that. I have offended you something?

Hi. I am not sure what are you referring to? --Twofortnights (talk) 20:56, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have thought I was rough at discussion of Mauritius. Forgive if I have offended you.
No, there is nothing to worry about :) --Twofortnights (talk) 21:28, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mozambique and "original research"

Hi again.

You have been using the term "original research" a lot recently, and now it's just getting offensive. To be clear I only follow IATA and other officially published data in my editing, and TIMATIC was indeed updated earlier this month. Under Wikipedia guidelines, only materials with "no reliable, published sources exist" can be concluded as original research. I would appreciate you using terms like "unreliable data" or "unverified source" instead of crediting me repeatedly for information on IATA.C-GAUN (talk) 19:20, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

C-GAUN, OK so you wrote that the Mozambique visa policy changed in April 2016 and that this was reflected by a Timatic change. Your source for this claim? If there is no source then I am afraid it is NOT offensive but it IS original research.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:02, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I know your first language is not English but this stance is simply absurd. READ THE DEFINITION FOR ORIGINAL RESEARCH AGAIN, AND TRANSLATE TO YOUR MOTHER TONGUE. Has by edits not backed by the IATA? Only edits with "no reliable, published sources exist" can be classified as original research. Now ask yourself this: is IATA really a unreliable and unpublished source?

IATA rules are updated periodically and proving a previous version of the rule is simply NOT possible for anyone who works outside the specific branch of the government. You have stated that the IATA remained static in nearly 2 years is simply nonsense since airlines can face steep fines up to US$10,000 if they do not follow the latest government guidelines. In this case, not only you have refused to acknowledge the latest change on IATA, but you also claimed IATA as inaccurate. Now THAT'S ORIGINAL RESEARCH.

The Mozambican one is not the first time you call my well-documented edits as "original research" like the last time I proved that the Chinese "passport for public affairs" is NOT A TYPE OF NORMAL PASSPORT. Seriously, I really have no idea what your problem is with Chinese-language editors but this has got to stop.C-GAUN (talk) 23:04, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? Regardless of your lengthy incoherent rant on some bizarre purported language issues above I am still waiting for a reliable published source that Mozambique changed their visa policy in April 2016. Unless there is some reliable published source that proves this claim then it is original research to include it in any article on Wikipedia.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:33, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Discussing ID Card restrictions with IATA

Hello, I have a dilemma here, and was hoping you could give me some advice on how to proceed.

Timatic clearly states the fact that Swedish immigration does not accept Swedish ID cards for travelling directly to a non-EU/EFTA state.

I now found out Finland has a similar policy for Finnish citizens.

I then wrote the following e-mail

The reply I got was this (down in blue)

What the hell? If it's "out of scope", why do they mention it for Sweden, as well as for Estonians and Greeks when flying directly from their own countries to Georgia?

My question is: should I bother sending the response above? Feels like the lower text was just an extremely poor excuse for some reason. I mean, if they didn't include this sort of info in the first place, that would be one thing, but including it for one country and not another is just damn inconsistent, or what do you say? André Devecserii (talk) 10:10, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! If I were you I would send a new email and not reply to this person who is obviously a bit lazy to do his job, hopefully it should reach someone else. But in this new email I would start with what you intended to reply now. So just begin with explaining that they already have such and such information on Sweden and then proceed to explain how a similar information should be added for Finland. Let's see what happens then.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:52, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
After my significant number of mails in the beginning, the team decided I should turn to this guy, who's the sourcing manager (!!!), with info. Guess I'll list him as the principal recipient and write the general e-mail address in "Copy" André Devecserii (talk) 02:54, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirements for Tunisian citizens

Hello Twofortnights,

Regarding the Wikipedia article mentioned above, I would like you to solve the dispute between you and that user who keeps udoing your edits concerning the map. Either have a discussion on the wikipage or apply protection against any unverified edits, because the number of undo-s and the nature of the edits fall beyond wikipedia's terms and conditions and this page should be no exception. Discuss it with the user or take action with fellow mediators. Thank you and may you have a nice day. Regards, Joseph SakrJoeSakr1980 (talk) 18:18, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Joe! Yes I agree. Unfortunately that person, we know him from before, he doesn't seem to be very sane and willing to listen. It's VERY frustrating.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:39, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Schengen

Hi

I do not understand why you canceled the editing article visa requirements for Russian citizens. See article for Indian citizens. Same rules. where the information is correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.237.163.71 (talk) 20:58, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

for example. I have a French Schengen visa.I can enter in Holland with it and then to France. For Holland I need a French Schengen visa. the information was correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.237.163.71 (talk) 21:04, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

example. my trip. French Schengen Visa. Russia - Finland (2 days) - Norway (2 days) - Denmark (2 days) - Germany (3 days) - France (4 days) - Russia. I can say that I have been in these countries on the basis of the Schengen visa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.237.163.71 (talk) 21:13, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. This is because every Schengen country can also issue a national visa which is not valid for the rest of Schengen. This means that to visit one of the Schengen countries you don't need a Schengen visa, you can do so on a national visa, therefore the "Schengen visa required" is incorrect. Hope this clears it up. Thanks.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:57, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Joe! Much appreciated!--Twofortnights (talk) 16:50, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstars for you

La estrella del diseñador gráfico
The Graphic Designer's Barnstar

La estrella del granero antivandálica

I thank you for creation of maps for visa articles and for maintaining relevance of visa maps.
For work on clarification from vandalism of visa maps. Norvikk (talk) 00:34, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Norvikk!!! Thank you for your hard work too!--Twofortnights (talk) 09:41, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Tunisia

I browsed thoroughly through the MFA and the Tunisian Custom's websites without a clue on entry formalities and guidelines, in such case we should stick to Timatic unless a Tunisian official board states otherwise. Have a nice day.JoeSakr1980 (talk) 10:26, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Changes

Hallo Twofortnights! How are you?

Could you possibly change some maps?
+Benin and Equatorial Guinea for visa policy of Chad.
+Russia for visa requirements for Guyanese.
-Moldova. VP of Japan
+Uruguay. VP of Costa Rica

May be better to change colors as national flag?

-Macau +Mongolia, Bangladesh(?), Malawi for Laotian

change the color. Libya for visa policy of Tajikistan. Done. Thank you, Twofortnights.
Visa policy of Ghana. for all AU visa on arrival. Singapore is dark green.
Visa policy of Taiwan. Israel. Thank you.
VP of Rwanda. Burundi, Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda.

P.S. Great work with statistics! Thank you. Norvikk (talk) 21:37, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am fine thank you, how are you? I have now changed the map for visa policy of Chad (kept the flag theme) and I have also added Russia on the visa requirements for Guyanese map.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:50, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fine, too, thank you. Brilliant! Thank you. --Norvikk (talk) 22:20, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Norvikk thanks for the notice. I have now added Mongolia and Malawi on the Laotian flag. Macau has a visa on arrival policy - Visa_policy_of_Macau#Entry_procedures_for_visa_nationals and I am not sure about Bangladesh myself. It doesn't mention Laos one way or the other.--Twofortnights (talk) 15:40, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you perceive this as a small petition, not as an indication. Translators sometimes distort a meaning. Thank you for the work! --Norvikk (talk) 15:56, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Could you change some maps?
VP of Russia. the map2 +Bahrain, Qatar (only dip.), Oman, Vanuatu.
Russia-Bolivia visa-free (90 days) - 4 maps.
VP of Belarus. Please change it again. Only Israel without Gaza and West Bank.
VP of Ukraine. +China
VP of Singapore. Kosovo (black)
VP of Brunei. Indonesia, Papua province, some pixels are green.
Belarus-Macau visa-free (30 days)
VP of Israel. -South Sudan, Eritrea.
VR for Chinese. +Costa Rica (public affairs)
VP of Palau, VP of Samoa, Solomon Is(?) -Timatic - Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Norway, Iceland.
VP of Vanuatu -Iceland(?) Timatic
VP of Marshall Is. -Liechtenstein
VP of Uzbekistan Kyrgyzstan 60 days
VP of Belarus +El Salvador
VP of Ukraine, VP of Belarus Belarus-Ukraine unlimited
VP of Uganda -Ghana, +Ireland
VR for Ghanaian Uganda
VR for Vanuatuan, for Estonian non-citizens +Belarus.
VP of Russia map-2 +Bangladesh +Senegal.
VP of the UK +East Timor
VR for Nigerian citizens +Barbados
VR for Taiwanese citizens -Burundi VP of Ghana +Morocco (part of the AU again from 30 Jan 2017)
St.Kitts and Nevis - Ukraine visa-free
VP of Israel. Palau (different blue)
VR for Russian Sri Lanka (eVisa)
VP of India map2 +Tanzania +Slovenia (dip. only)
VR for Russian Guinea-Bissau visa on arrival
VR for Andorran, San Marino: Australia (green)
VP of Australia -China
this map perhaps contains several mistakes. Senegal, Cameroon, Somalia, Cabo Verde, Malawi.
VR for South African -Andorra
VR for EU citizens the Bahamas (different green)
VP of Ireland East Timor
Please examine an ability to change the red color to grey color on maps for Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan. Thanks. Norvikk (talk) 18:20, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
VP of The Schengen North Cyprus pink(?)

Fixed. Btw not sure why this map is showing all the disputed territories, it's too complicated and we can never show them all.--Twofortnights (talk) 09:51, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. You are right. --Norvikk (talk) 11:33, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

VP of Singapore Switzerland (now other green)
VP of Angola +Brazil
VP of DR Congo +R Congo; VR of R Congo +DR Congo
VR of Eritrea -Kenya. VR for Kenyan
VR for Moroccan -Nigeria; VP of Nigeria
VR for Georgian -New Caledonia +Australia
VR for Emirati +New Caledonia +Moldova
VP of Belarus Macao other green
VR for Kazakh Samoa visa free
VP of China third map green for Serbia, Tuvalu, Ecuador
VP of São Tomé and Príncipe -Guinea
VR for Hong Kong +Benin
VP of China second map +Greenland, Iceland and Iraq (dip); Ghana and Mauritania (dip/ser)
VP of Israel +Botswana and VR for citizens of Botswana
VP of Ivory Coast +Philippines
VR for Ukrainian Singapore and Guinea-Bissau (other color); +New Caledonia and Mauritius
VR for British Dominican Republic (other color)
VP of NZ +Puerto Rico
VP of Malaysia Seyshells <=> Maldives
VP of Tunisia Belarus, Kazakhstan (yellow) VR for KZ BY -Tunisia VP of Malawi Libya (brown); Morocco, Niger, Algeria, Angola, Cuba, Djibouti, Eritrea, India, Ghana, Liberia, Mauritania, Nepal, Oman, Senegal, Sri Lanka, Tajikistan, Togo, Turkmenistan (grey) VR for Uzbekistan. Second map. Seychells, Timor.

Hi. Not sure what needs to be updated here?--Twofortnights (talk) 20:58, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

VP of Taiwan. Russia (Kaliningrad region).

Done.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:03, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

VR for Bolivian. +Belize, Egypt (VOA).

Done.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:03, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

VP of Uzbekistan +France visa free for 30 days; VR for French
VP of Solomon Is. +Israel visa free under visa exemption agreement from 2017; VR for Israeli
VP of Bahrain +Georgia VoA/evisa; VR for Georgian
VP of Indonesia the second map +Peru — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.252.45.204 (talk) 17:54, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
VP of Serbia Malta other green
VP of India dip/ser +Panama, Jordan and St.Kitts and Nevis
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.252.45.173 (talk) 23:13, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Chaos comes here, if you are away for a long time. I hope you are doing well. Thank you so much.

Norvikk (talk) 18:14, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I saw a few broken pixels on this map (Russia: where is the Caucasus and Vladivostok (Far East). Could you help to fill pixels? --Norvikk (talk) 21:33, 6 March 2017 (UTC). Thanks. --Norvikk (talk) 19:34, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I found the application for my device. I can edit maps. Thank you very much for your help. --Norvikk (talk) 18:58, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Colombian eVisa

Hi.

Is it Colombia eVisa? https://tramitesmre.cancilleria.gov.co/tramites/enlinea/solicitarVisa.xhtml

Is it right? Colombia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Twofortnights/Visa_requirements_for_Angolan_citizens#Visa_requirements --Norvikk (talk) 11:05, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I understand this is not an eVisa but an online visa application form that many countries have. There is no electronic visa that is issued, you have to go to the consulate to obtain a sticker.--Twofortnights (talk) 11:39, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
ok. Thanks. --Norvikk (talk) 12:10, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Twofortnights, I´ve been following your work and it´s outstanding. Congratulation and keep it up!

I´m a Spanish native speaker, and I´ll be working on creating the Spanish pages with the information. Already have the 1st one: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Twofortnights/Requerimientos_de_visado_para_ciudadanos_de_Costa_Rica

As you might also have seen, I´ve been updating the Costa Rica map and keeping it up to date. I also want to volunteer with the standarization of color codes for the maps. I read a previous comment from another editor, and you expose the challenges that each country has. I'll get around it and provide you couple of proposals for different countries.

Here's the link to my sandbox. I'd appreciate your feedback: Luiscotiquicia's sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luiscotiquicia (talk • contribs) 22:53, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Again, great work!

Cheers, Luiscotiquicia (talk) 20:38, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Russian map

Maybe time to change colors on the Visa requirements for Russian has come? To change the "flag palette" on the"classic green palette".

  Russia
  Freedom of movement
  Visa not required
  Visa on arrival
  Limited visa on arrival
  eVisa
  Pre-approved visa pick up on arrival
  Visa required prior to arrival

I really feel it will be better. What do you think? --Norvikk (talk) 18:08, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I guess that is fine too. But weren't you a fan of flag-like color legends?--Twofortnights (talk) 16:40, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I? No. I thought you are a fan of flag-like color legends. Seriously. Sometimes it looks nice, sometimes not. I like saturated blue color of the Russian flag on the map, but this cold color. Warm color looks better on maps.
I don't like red color for the category "visa required. As this [50] Red hurts on eyes. My opinion - green color is the best of all for a map. --Norvikk (talk) 17:13, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Could you change the Russian map? --Norvikk (talk) 09:58, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! I just realized there is a big issue about the proposed change of map colors in general not just for Russia. These maps are used through Wikimedia - Wikipedias in various languages but also Wikivoyage etc. How do we fix that?--Twofortnights (talk) 17:13, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
We see where a map is used. (File usage on other wikis). A problem in that it will be necessary to change interpretation under a map in other articles. Or To transfer interpretation of colors to a map, then interpretation under a map can be removed. --Norvikk (talk) 09:58, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Good afternoon. You have found a solution for problem, which has appeared when replacing color of the map? Which is suitable for you or the problem has no decision? --Norvikk (talk) 16:55, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure. Someone would have to go through all other Wiki projects where the file is used to change the color legend. In addition they would have to know the language to add any new items to the legend. I am not sure how to solve this?--Twofortnights (talk) 18:12, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Why to change the text (description)? It is enough to change the description of color. blue to #23B14D, and so on. I have found this problem. for Albanian citizens. All it is solvable. --Norvikk (talk) 19:39, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes but the new legend that is proposed would include new entries like "Limited visa on arrival" or "Pre-approved visa pick up on arrival". Also even if we remove those 2, still someone has to go through the other Wiki projects and edit those legends from blue to #23B14D, it won't happen automatically. Who is going to do that? You noticed well with Albanian citizens map, someone also insisted on changig that one but no one ever changed the legends so it was confusing.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:46, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
For using the Russian map I will make it. Let's try. --Norvikk (talk) 21:13, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
OK, here it is then, please update the map legends. I only didn't include Pre-approved visa pick up on arrival as we have agreed to phase that one out, it's too unreliable.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:08, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I updated the map legends. No legend-line in Arabic and other legend-line in Italian. How do you like Green Map? better, worse? --Norvikk (talk) 19:24, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
For me it's good for as long as readers like it.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:10, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I waited it for 3 years. Thank you very much. --Norvikk (talk) 21:48, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

May be the colors of the Russian flag would be appropriate on the map for Visa Policy of Russia?

  Russia Official color of the flag
  unlimited
  90 days Official color of the flag
  60 days
  30 days
  14 days

What do you think?--Norvikk (talk) 18:32, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Singapore

Hi, I have a friend who had edited your pages (The other - “Visa requirements for Icelandic citizens”), both twice anonymously. Sorry to trouble you to undo the changes twice. He is working as an immigration officer and he recently realises that Icelandic citizens are to enter Singapore for 90-days visa free with effect from 1st May 2016. May I know how update should be made since you've stated that you know that Icelandic citizens are given 30 days? Now it's after 1st May 2016. Is there any special requirements to approve the changes? -- Nicholas Theodore (talk) 22:41, 4 May 2016 (UTC+8)

Hi User:Nicholas Theodore! All you need is an external published verifiable source as per Wikipedia:Verifiability. As soon as you have a published external source that clearly says there is a change of Singaporean visa policy as of 1 May 2016 the article can be changed. Unfortunately word of mouth falls under Wikipedia:No original research. Thanks!--Twofortnights (talk) 16:39, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

e-visa/electronic travel authorization/may apply online

Hi. What about Gabon visa system https://evisa.dgdi.ga? Is it

or

? Which is right?

Hi! It's the first one definitely. Keep in mind it's valid only for entries via Libreville International Airport. Cheers --Twofortnights (talk) 17:53, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Thanks. --Norvikk (talk) 20:09, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Twofortnights.

Articles contain different information. What information is correct?

Guinea-Bissau. Pre-arranged visa can be picked up on arrival. OR Visa on arrival. May apply online. OR e-Visa? Visa Application System
Rwanda. E-visa for all? [51] "In case where we don’t have a Diplomatic Mission/ consulate, foreign nationals request for a visa acceptance letter online, which will be presented on arrival to obtain a visa upon payment of visa fee ($30)"

I am not sure, I will have to investigate this further.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:28, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

British statistics

Hi. U.K. statistics. Now maximum information. How is it better?
1. Top-10, 20, 30?
2. With/without Decrease Increase?
3. years. 2015/2014 or 2015/2011 or other? -- Norvikk (talk) 03:12, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well I see the problem in the fact that not all data is for the same year. It's easier with centralized statistics like the one provided by the Federal Security Service and the Russian Federal State Statistics Service. But then again such statistics are also prone to many errors. --Twofortnights (talk) 17:10, 23 May 2016
hm.Sorry for computer translate. I asked about style of the section of statistics in article Visa policy of the United Kingdom. I have issued it as in article about the Russian policy. I ask your opinion about style. You can change it if something isn't pertinent.
You talk about the source of statistical information. But the source is always the same - the state statistical service. For all states. There is no other source. The methodology is not perfect at all, the percentage of error is present in all statistics. --Norvikk (talk) 20:07, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ah OK, sorry about that. Yeah that looks good to me, I wouldn't change it. Thanks for updating the article.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:12, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Western Sahara on visa maps

Why are you removing Western Sahara from the visa maps and portraying it as a part of Morocco? No country recognizes Western Sahara as belonging to Morocco and most maps show it as separate, so why are you changing them? I object to the erasure of Western Sahara from the maps you edited. - ILBobby (talk) 05:48, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We have to use some kind of objective reference for the maps. Otherwise we will end up with something like this File:Visa requirements for Romanian citizens.svg which is completely insane and impossible to edit. Therefore we ought to use something and that something is the UN membership. At least for the maps as article tables contain information on a wide array of territories with different statuses - autonomous, disputed, colonial etc. I am not saying it's a good option but it's the only neutral option that we have. Otherwise if we include Western Sahara then people will say but what about Abkhazia, if we include Abkhazia soon the issue of Crimea will arise and that's how mess begins. But please remember that this in no way tries to define Western Sahara as part of Morocco or as an independent country. I personally have zero opinion over the issue one way or another. It's just that we need to keep things simple and neutral, that's all.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:07, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
By giving Western Sahara to Morocco on the maps, you *are* taking a stance, in favor of Morocco's position, and thus are not neutral. It is by no means daring or provocative to go with the global consensus and show it as separate. The same could be said for Crimea and Abkhazia - both statuses are unrecognized by the vast majority of countries. Kosovo should be added to the maps because a majority of the world's countries recognize it, and Palestine should remain on them for the same reason. You will never please everyone, but you can try not to alienate more people than fewer. - ILBobby (talk) 20:42, 3 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
By that logic (simple number of countries recognizing some situation as legal) Western Sahara would still be shown as part of Morocco due to the fact that only 47 countries recognize it as independent. As I've said it's the best to keep the criteria the same for all and to keep it neutral and easily verifiable. "Majority" criteria would in no time turn into a major flame war where some discussants would be proposing a majority of countries while others would propose a majority of world population while some would propose a qualified majority across all continents etc. As you can see it would be very difficult to establish such criteria so it's the best to use what we've got. It's not perfect, but at least it keeps the encyclopedia peaceful from edit wars based on plethora of equally valid opinions.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:57, 3 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Format

Hi. Which is format correct?
Timatic|nationality=BB|destination=AL|accessdate=6 July 2014 Or Timatic|nationality=BB|destination=AL?
Date no update in many articles. It information is needed? --Norvikk (talk) 19:05, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Both are fine I think. With date it is more complete.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:11, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
ok. Thanks. --Norvikk (talk) 19:05, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
André - good find thanks!--Twofortnights (talk) 19:53, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have found, but thank André. Life is so unfair... --Norvikk (talk) 20:30, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Norvikk haha I am so sorry, two messages crossed. Thank you Norvikk!--Twofortnights (talk) 22:01, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
))) --Norvikk (talk) 22:48, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Statistics

Hi. Please, View visa requiments for Russian - ststistics. The three versions.
1. Main year 2015. In the footnotes 2014 and 2013
2. All the years in the footnotes
3. all year in the table.
Which version is best?

We could perhaps simplify it by using something like this?--Twofortnights (talk) 15:21, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Notes
  1. ^ Data for 2013.
  2. ^ Data for 2014.
  3. ^ Data for 2015.
Maybe move the 'source' in the separate column? --Norvikk (talk) 18:11, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well in that case I would also add the column for year.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:49, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I returned the old version. Statistics in all the articles in the same style. You looked Portuguese statistics? --Norvikk (talk) 14:29, 31 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK. But I am not sure if it's better.
Yes, I saw that file for Portugal but I am not sure it contains what we need? I can't find the information there.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:33, 31 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's not ideal. but the changes are not found approval.
Thank you. --Norvikk (talk) 19:01, 31 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Visa requirements for Sri Lankan citizens.png

If you can, Please add e-Visa section for above map. Thank you. --112.134.2.171 (talk) 16:33, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Canada

Hi. The canadian immigration website. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/apply-how.asp This "May apply "online" for all? --Norvikk (talk) 19:08, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's like Russian online application. You still need to send in the physical documents and visa is placed in the passport. So it's just an easier way to send an application, but it's not an electronic visa.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:17, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I understand this is not an electronic visa. They must inspect scan copies of the submitted documents and if the answer is Yes invite with the originals for verification and for visa purposes.

This is a mistake?

I think so, because only one part of application can be done online. If you just say "May apply online." it sounds like you can finish the process online like with Australia but you can't.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:42, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification. We will not enter to confuse readers. --Norvikk (talk) 21:05, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visitors statistics

Visitors statistics of UruguayI made a request on the website of the Ministry of tourism of Uruguay on the general mail. User talk:Norvikk#Missing countries

They replied that publish statistics for the MERCOSUR countries. But offered to make a request through the mail Department of statistics.
first answer Spanish Buen día a quien corresponda: La razón por la cual aparecen individualizadas algunas nacionalidades es porque las mismas pertenecen al Mercosur y forman parte de la información básica que proporciona la Dirección Nacional de Migración. No obstante nosotros publicamos información más detallada que la que usted comenta; de precisar alguna otra información a la que aparece en nuestra web: /mintur.gub.uy/index.php/es/estadistica le pido nos lo haga saber y le enviamos lo que tengamos disponible Cordial saludo

I did it. I requested the visitor statistics for Australia, Canada, China, New Zealand, Russia, United Kingdom, United States. They sent statistics .odt file. (I've never encountered this format) I managed to unzip it.
second answer Spanish Estimado: La información que le brindamos es el total de pasajeros ingresados a Uruguay por todos los puntos de ingreso, son datos proporcionados por Migración, cualquier otra consulta a sus órdenes.
odt Los números corresponden a pasajeros ingresados al país por nacionalidad

This can be considered a reliable source and make edits to articles based on this source? --Norvikk (talk) 21:02, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think?

Thanks! I am not sure, this is a tricky one. Wikipedia rules say that every source needs to be published and verifiable which this is not. But I would feel sorry to have this information go to waste. Is there a possibility to ask them to upload this on their page?--Twofortnights (talk) 14:49, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I asked them. "Why do you not publish statistical information on all countries. This is an important economic and social information."

They replied that they publish only to MERCOSUR, the rest on request. Apparently this policy of the statistical agencie. I do not understand why.

Either to deviate from the rules or without Uruguay. Or look for other sources of information. Or this--Norvikk (talk) 11:08, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Hi. Treasure for you. Can you help with editing statistics?

Micronesia [52]
Cook Islands [53] Done. Englan/UK as UK.
American Samoa [54] page 109-110. Done.
Guam [55]. Done. By air.
New Caledonia [56]
Niue [57] Done
Tuvalu [58]
Malawi 2009 [59]. Done.
Bhutan [60] - Done.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:47, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

--Norvikk (talk) 19:28, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wow great finds, thank you!--Twofortnights (talk) 19:49, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, all done except Guam which doesn't work for some reason?--Twofortnights (talk) 15:16, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much! --Norvikk (talk) 16:42, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
PS New Zealand. Check this out! statistics of New Zealand. Arrivals. All countries of the world since 1979. This is the best database. Oh, if all countries had similar statistics, the world would be better.
Amazing work by New Zealand!--Twofortnights (talk) 15:16, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Norvikk, just to map it out what we have missing:

--Twofortnights (talk) 15:23, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I made requests to several countries. The answers came from Argentina, Uruguay, Antigua (was asked to redirect the request to the migration Department), Am Samoa. Almost no one answers. I write about it here User talk:Norvikk#Missing countries. I think a data that is in the open databases, we all found. Norvikk (talk) 17:11, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Type is statistics

Hi. What type of statistics is more priority? Number of Foreign Visitor Arrivals by Country of Residence / International visitors arrivals by nationality Norvikk (talk) 15:02, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I think nationality.--Twofortnights (talk) 15:37, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Greenland

Two sources- [61] and [62]. Information is different. Which source is correct?

UAE

I couldn't find statistics for all the Emirates. We know the statistics for the two Emirates- Abu Dhabi, Dubai. Total.14,200,000+4,105,846=18,105,846 But the total for 2015 by World Travel & Tourism Council (WTTC) -14,837,000.[63] I think we can use it. What do you think? I made a test edit. [64] --Norvikk (talk) 17:02, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bosnia and Herzegovina

Hi Twofortnights!

I would like to thank you for visa map for Bosnia and Herzegovina. I have added one more category which is visa free "on business" (China) but I do not know how to update the image. Could you do that if you have time?

Sure. No problem.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:00, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted duplicate text, which you reverted

Hello,

You reverted my removal of the Israel section on the Visa Policy of Iran page. I believe there are two reason to remove the Israel section from the page:

I'm not sure whether it's true, but whatever we put in the Wikipedia page, lets at least have at least one credible source (not the Magic Carpet website) to serve as a basis.

I welcome your thoughts

Amin wordie (talk) 03:00, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Amin wordie, I think you haven't read the article thoroughly as one sentence speaks about the total ban on Israeli citizens but the other talks about foreign citizens who have evidence of travel to Israel in their passports. Those are two different things, and not duplicates that should be merged. Hope it's clear now. As for whether it's true or not, well that can be reflected in the article, that the information is conflicted.--Twofortnights (talk) 10:43, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I know that the second sentence mentions that people associated with the state of Israel are not allowed into Iran. Have you even read my comment? My point is that 1) all this information an be merged into the first paragraph, even if you don't delete one charter. 2) Find a better source for the second sentence that claims that no one associated with the state of Israel is allowed in Iran. Amin wordie (talk) 11:21, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My problem is not where we place it in the article but the fact that the sentence "Israeli citizens are totally banned from entry to Iran." does not cover both situations. I thought this would be clear, this sentence in no way describes the situation of foreign citizens who visited Israel, only that of Israeli citizens. As for "find a better source", well IATA takes information directly from national governments so it's a good source already. I am sorry but the source is not the problem if it's reliable just because you don't like what it says or you think it can't possibly be true. I am willing however to expand the article with something like "According to some travel agencies this rule is not enforced".--Twofortnights (talk) 11:28, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I did some research and the source seems reliable. Their website looks like it hadn't been updated since the Reagan administration, which is why I was initially sceptical. Amin wordie (talk) 07:34, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Haha, oh well it's more of a service system than a website anyway.--Twofortnights (talk) 09:09, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirements for Kuwaiti citizens

Dear Twofortnights

Thank you for all the hard work you've been doing on Wikipedia. I'm from Kuwait and its important for me that the information is up to date and simple to follow. I saw your reversed everything that i've been working on. I found that for example Marshall Islands don't give Kuwaiti citizens Visa on Arrival. Australia has a eVisa. some other countries Like Mexico allow Kuwaiti citizens to visit if they hold a US Visa for example. I tired to make things more clear and also double and triple checked before submitting.

I would like to help make this page easy to follow and up to date with all relevant information.

All your help is much appreciated.

TaB TaB AiE — Preceding unsigned comment added by TaB TaB AiE (talk • contribs) 20:35, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For Marshall Islands it's some kind of a glitch, on this page it says that Kuwaiti citizens are eligible for visa on arrival - https://www.timaticweb.com/cgi-bin/tim_website_client.cgi?FullText=1&COUNTRY=MH&SECTION=VI&SUBSECTION=00&user=KLMB2C&subuser=KLMB2C
However, that's not an issue. The issue is in the notes where you added the text that you simply copy/pasted from another website. That is absolutely forbidden under copyright rules.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:30, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Twofortnights

I understand that copying copyrighted materials is forbidden, but the information I added on the notes are policies of governments regarding entry to their borders and are not copy righted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TaB TaB AiE (talk • contribs) 14:51, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's not about the information, it's about the text. It's a simple copy/paste of the exact same content.--Twofortnights (talk) 15:31, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Jordan

Hello there,

http://www.qaiairport.com/en/content/visa-requirements

According to Timatic, citizens of the Gulf Cooperation Council, Lebanon, Turkey, Egypt, and Palestine can visit Jordan without a visa for a certain period of time. However on Queen Alia's International Airport website it states that all nationalities should obtain a visa on arrival which costs 40 Jordanian Dinars valid for 2 months. (Some nationalities should obtain it from the diplomatic mission though most can get it at the airport).

Where does that fall ont? Should we change the info based on the airport's website or stick to timatic?

Have a nice dayJoeSakr1980 (talk) 13:48, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I would personally stick with Timatic. I have seen this before with other countries, they omit information that was intended for English speakers. Plus the airport is not the primary source, they just interpret the official information.--Twofortnights (talk) 15:30, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

Thank you Norvikk!--Twofortnights (talk) 16:31, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Qatar-Turkey Visa Exemption Agreements

Hello there, I've been to Istanbul-Turkey on a business trip on Saturday, right after disembarking the aircraft, going up the stairs there's a banner stating the countries whos citizens are required to obtain an e-Visa on arrival. Suprisingly Qatar is on the list. I've taken a photo and uploaded it here https://postimg.org/image/ws3y1683l , Should we again stick with what Timatic states? or is what the airport states is superior to Timatic? Have a nice day. Feel free tell me if I should upload it to Wiki-commons. Regards, Joseph SakrJoeSakr1980 (talk) 10:26, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well we should trust the Turkish embassy in Qatar that says the deal was ratified and entered into force. The airport staff just needs to be more diligent.--Twofortnights (talk) 16:32, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Last changes of visa policy of Norway

Hi Twofortnights! Thanks for the very good work at Wikipedia regarding visa policies of different countries all over the world. Generally it seems like most of your changes are correct and trustworthy. Changes from other users are more so so... However, your last changes of the Visa requirements for Norwegian citizens (July 1st 2016) seems to be wrong. You changed Kiribati, Marshall Islands and Tuvalu with references to Timatic. However, when I check the Timatic references, they clearly agree with the old revision of this wiki, i.e. "Visa required" on Kiribati, and "visa on arrival" in Marshall Islands and Tuvalu (not "Visa not required" on any of them). Do you know anything that Timatic does not know? Espen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Espenlok (talk • contribs) 16:25, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Espenlok, bilateral visa waivers with Schengen Area and Kiribati, Marshall Islands and Tuvalu recently came into force. I don't expect those three countries with such limited resources will quickly inform IATA about the changes, it may take some time unfortunately.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:25, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, then you did know something more than Timatic! However, as Timatic is still used as a reference for the visa regulation, it seems a little strange that the reference does not agree with the written regulation in the wiki. However, I see the actual references on the opposite sites "Visa policy of Tuvalu" etc., and I guess Timatic will also be updated pretty soon! Thanks again for your good work with these pages! It is very nice for a travel nerd like me. And I especially like that one difference between us and our neighbors in Sweden regarding visa-free countries has now disappeared (ie. Kiribati). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Espenlok (talk • contribs) 18:53, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. I expect the information on Norway will be especially slow to show on Timatic, because usually these contracts are signed by the EU first and then minutes later by Norway, Switzerland and Iceland. However the press release of the EU always says how the contracts with Norway, Switzerland and Iceland will be signed later and then the impression is it's going to happen who knows when. In reality it happens immediately (it wouldn't make sense not to sign it anyway as all those countries are part of the Schengen Area and not only they have to follow the Schengen code, they also have border free zone with the rest of Schengen).--Twofortnights (talk) 19:34, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Visa requirements for Russian citizens.png

May I politely confess that I have done some graphical changes to that map? That is not a personal insult to your great work, but a little discontent with the graphical outcome. In my humble opinion, it is easier to discuss about a graphical work that is already visible. However, some people have asked me whether I am a vandal. Feel free to join the discussion on Talk:Visa_requirements_for_Russian_citizens --Benutzer:Kapitän Nemo (talk) 18:55, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please use edit summaries

There is currently a question at the Teahouse regarding your revert at Visa requirements for Egyptian citizens. It is tremendously helpful to new editors if you provide an edit summary when reverting their contributions, especially if they can plausibly interpreted as good faith. From WP:ES:

It is considered good practice to provide a summary for every edit, especially when reverting (undoing) the actions of other editors or deleting existing text.

The two seconds it would take you to provide one both helps editor retention and reduces the burden on the Teahouse and similar forums. Thanks. Joe Roe (talk) 14:52, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Heyyyy buddy ! Did you read the text and had the feeling that it was personal analysis, Then your logic and feelings are totally messed up !

I am writing facts and you keep deleting them. What's your problem? Are you OK?

You can ask anyone who has gone to mexico international airport, the arrangement is different from all other international airports and that causes problem for people who need visa to mexico.

You don't ask for evidence. you just keep deleting my text. You really have problems ! I bet you won't even read this ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moskovitskaya (talk • contribs) 23:03, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will reply on your talk page.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:40, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

Thank you Norvikk!--Twofortnights (talk) 08:42, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ID Cards for Dominica

This is a tricky issue - I asked IATA to look into this last summer and their sources apparetly said only French cards were accepted.

However, I mailed the Dominican head of immigration im March this year, asking specifically about French, Swedish and German cards (also attaching images). He then said all of these were OK.

Correspondance

When asking if this applied to all EU citizens, I got no reply.

I then went to Dominica by ferry, and getting in was completely painless.

I've sent my IATA contact guy another mail, attaching the correspondence with the head of immigration. This needs to be clarified.

André Devecserii (talk) 14:09, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well I guess sometimes, some information we won't end up including because of the Wikipedia:Verifiability rule. But thanks for looking into it, it sounds like Dominica has very lax entry procedures.--Twofortnights (talk) 16:43, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Multiple Barnstar

Norvikk thank you so much! You deserve all those barnstars for your dedication as well!--Twofortnights (talk) 10:44, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian ETA for permanent residents of the US

Hi, It says on the Visa Policy of Canada article that US permenent residents are exempt from holding an ETA.

This is false - although a national who normally needs a visa for Canada but holds a US permenent resident card don't need a Canadian visa, they do need an ETA.

Consequently, once the leniency period ends, a passport (or US Refugee travel document/I-571, or US permit to re-enter/I-327) will be required to fly to Canada (as opposed to only bringing the green card, which will now only be possible when entering by land or sea)

Source here

André Devecserii (talk) 21:22, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I suppose the exemption for French citizens residents of Saint Pierre and Miquelon still stands?--Twofortnights (talk) 08:38, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Twofortnights Only if flying from St Pierre and Miquelon - otherwise the airline is to deny them boarding without an ETA. Also US nationals remain exempt André Devecserii (talk) 14:33, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Serbia

Hi, just wanted to let you know that there are two significantly different versions of Serbia's visa policy, and both should be mentioned in the article, similar to how it's done in the one about Bangladesh.

I will contact the Serbian MFA about this and ask for an explanation, and if they insist their info is the correct one, I'll write to my IATA contact guy. André Devecserii (talk) 19:32, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

IATA list:

Indefinitely: Monaco, Montenegro

90 days: South Korea

90 days in a 6-month period:

60 days: Macedonia

30 days: Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia

30 days in a 2-month period: Ukraine

14 days: Hong Kong

MFA list

Indefinitely: Albania, Monaco

90 days: Andorra, Argentina (tourism only), Australia, Austria, Bahrain, Belgium, Bolivia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Kuwait, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macau, Macedonia, Malta, Mexico, Moldova (biometric passport), Mongolia, Montenegro, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Oman, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, San Marino, Seychelles, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Tunisia, United Kingdom, United States, Uruguay, Vatican City.

90 days in a 6-month period:

30 days: Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia

30 days in a 60-day period: Ukraine

14 days: Hong Kong

André Devecserii (talk) 19:32, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Twofortnights Wow, the Serbs were actually responsive (perhaps because I sent the question with high priority, but still)
They've notified IATA, and low and behold, they updated it almost instantly
None of the lists were 100% right - but Wikipedia put it accurately, so I only made a slight change to Ukraine - they can only visit for 30 days in a 2-month period. NOTE: Nationals of Belarus, Russia and Kazakhstan don't have the 2-month restriction. André Devecserii (talk) 13:10, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
André Devecserii: Great, it seems all was sorted before I even knew about it! Good job! Btw I think all those indefinite stay entries are errors. For example there are a few for Visa policy of Cuba.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:39, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mozambique VOA

Just went on an experimental trip (next-day return) to Maputo, to find out once and for all about VOA.

The US embassy in Maputo claims nationals of countries without a visa (such as me) cannot obtain a visa on arrival.

Timatic says all nationals can.

I can reveal that IATA's version is correct. Absolutely painless - paid 66 dollars and got it pasted in straight away. Passport control stamped me in within 10 seconds.

I don't know anything about the "many Americans" who got refused entry and deported, but to be frank, if this rule was ever implemented, it must have been reverted. Unless you have another explanation? André Devecserii (talk) 23:34, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirements for New Zealand citizens

Hi

Firstly, apologies if I've taken the wrong approach in talking with you; this is my first time doing so on Wikipedia.

Secondly, thanks for all your work on the visa pages; it's nice to 'meet' one of the people putting so much effort into making Wikipedia my first go to reference.

As to why I'm talking now... I updated the page "Visa requirements for New Zealand citizens" roughly this time last year following my experiences as a New Zealander travelling to India*. Shortly after my edits, you reverted my changes with - as far as I can tell - no explanation. If you feel that I was vandalising the page, I assure you I was not. Unless something has changed since last year, I still believe my understanding of India's policy for New Zealand travellers is accurate.

I've changed the content back to my original edit. My original edit had a link to India's policy for New Zealand. I am not, however, looking for an editing war. If you feel that my change was wrong in some way, do let me know.

Kwutchak (talk) 09:22, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Update

I realised I made a mistake in the ref tag on my original edit. Perhaps that was what your reversion was correcting?

Kwutchak (talk) 09:35, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Micronesia

Hello there sir, it's been quite a long time, please update the article concerning the visa requirements of citizens of Micronesia as the schengen waiver came into force earlier today. It also applies to Romania Bulgaria and Cyprus too.

Format

Hi. Which format is better from the point of view of grammar and sense in English?
60 days, up to 90 days within 180
60 days, 90 days in any 180-days
60 days, 90 days in a 180-day period
60 days, a max. stay of 90 days within any 180 day period
60 days, a max. stay of 90 days within any 180 day period is granted
Or other? --Norvikk (talk) 15:53, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I would say "60 days, for a maximum total stay of 90 days within any 180 day period"--Twofortnights (talk) 17:29, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! --Norvikk (talk) 03:32, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Are "180 day period" and "180-day period" equal? Norvikk (talk) 20:47, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi.Yes they are, it's the same thing.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:08, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ficticious conditional e-visa for Georgia

Hi, could you please read what I wrote at the bottom of this talk page, and make the relevant adjustments (possibly after looking into the Georgian e-visa system yourself, which I already did) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Twofortnights/Talk:Visa_policy_of_Georgia#Conditional_EVISA_for_certain_countries André Devecserii (talk) 19:59, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well I guess the evisa info page is outdated which is not very professional but nothing uncommon. Should we contact them or immediately remove any mention of the conditional evisa?--Twofortnights (talk) 20:10, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Twofortnights Remove it, because the e-visa form is where you apply, so it cannot be wrong. It directly accepts or rejects you depending on nationality and whether you have a supporting document. The yellow countries should, in other words, be grey, however some blue countries, such as Congo Dem. Republic and Algeria, are now also ineligible for e-visas. The entire e-visa list thus needs to be reviewed, and sadly this can only be done by going through every single nationality in the application form André Devecserii (talk) 20:41, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I will then remove the e-visa from the map for the time being.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:28, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Georgian e-visa nationalities

Alright Twofortnights, here it is: the list of all nationals who are eligible for e-visa. (note that anyone with a visa or residence permit in EU/EFTA/GCC countries, overseas territories of EU countries (except Anguilla, Montserrat, Pitcairn, Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha), Australia, Canada, Israel, Japan, New Zealand, South Korea or the United States is visa-exempt for 90 days in a 180-day period.)

90 days in a 180-day period:

Bolivia

Cuba

Dominica

East Timor

Grenada

Guatemala

Kiribati

Macedonia

Marshall Islands

Micronesia

Palau

Paraguay

Peru

St Kitts & Nevis

St Lucia

Samoa

Solomon Islands

Suriname

Trinidad & Tobago

Tuvalu

Vanuatu

30 days in a 120-day period

Angola

Benin

Bhutan

Burkina Faso

Burundi

Cambodia

Cape Verde

Central African Republic

China

Comoros

Djibouti

Egypt

Equatorial Guinea

Eritrea

Ethiopia

Fiji

Guinea-Bissau

Guyana

Haiti

India

Indonesia

Jamaica

Jordan

Laos

Lesotho

Madagascar

Malawi

Maldives

Mongolia

Mozambique

Myanmar

Namibia

North Korea

Papua New Guinea

Philippines

Rwanda

Sao Tome e Principe

Swaziland

Togo

Tonga

Vietnam

Zambia

Zimbabwe

André Devecserii (talk) 23:17, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I have uploaded a new map, please check it to see if it contains any errors.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:45, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Twofortnights I really think you should yellow-mark the 30/120 nationalities, like in the article on Turkey. That way it'd also be easier for me to spot errors André Devecserii (talk) 23:47, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa map

Hello, Nice work on all of your articles! Please note that Vanuatu don’t need visa for Iceland neither Iceland need visa for Vanuatu (Schengen agreement). Visa requirements for Iceland citizens needs to be updated. Thanks! Ugnius — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ugniushervar (talk • contribs) 02:58, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, could you just re-update the map? I adjusted the text pisition slightly - looks much more even André Devecserii (talk) 17:16, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I missed this message when you sent it.--Twofortnights (talk) 08:18, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reciprocity

Hi there, thank you for your explanation in your most recent edit on Visa requirements for Singaporean citizens. However, may I know on earth is USA reciprocal with Singapore when Americans travelers need no further travel documents other than their personal passport when they enter Singapore? Singaporean tourists can be denied entry in the USA if they do not process a valid ESTA with them. Singapore doesn't ask American tourists to make any payments for their online registration but why is the reverse happening? Hope to hear you clarify on that.

Ivanacurtis reverted my edit on Visa requirements for Venezuelan citizens but he/she didn't remove the "Reciprocity" column on Visa requirements for Serbian citizens & Visa requirements for Singaporean citizens. I wonder what was he/she thinking.

Also, do u edit any articles on Diplomatic Missions? Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk) 05:51, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Yes, of course the thing is ESTA applies only to arrivals via air but not overland. Also the European Commission ruled that ESTA is not an equivalent of a visa. I know it's not related to Singapore but still adds some weight. As for the diplomatic missions, no I don't, is there any issue there?--Twofortnights (talk) 08:11, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Map editing tool?

Hello, would you mind sharing how you edit world maps? I'd be interested in also contributing to visa policy maps and could use some guidance. Thanks! —Wingedbeaver (talk) 19:47, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Brazil

Hi, in the Visa policy of Brazil article it states that Belize is on the list of countries with a visa exemption (and shows this on the map as well). This is not true, we have Belize passports and need to get a visa to travel to Brazil for tourism and business. I made this edit but you undid the edit, can you please change it back?

Source: Brazil embassy in San Francisco - https://sistemas.mre.gov.br/kitweb/datafiles/SaoFrancisco/en-us/file/visa_exception_list.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alanaloria (talk • contribs) 16:02, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Alanaloria, the information you have is outdated. Please check the latest list by the Brazilian MFA that was updated on 21 September 2016 where it is clearly stated that Belizean citizens do not require a visa for Brazil - [65]. Thank you.

Wow, thanks so much you saved me such a headache of trying to get a visa! There is so much conflicting info about this on the internet, it's crazy. Here is another good source to verify that a visa is not required, from the Brazilian embassy in Belize: http://belmopan.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/visa_to_brazil.xml — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alanaloria (talk • contribs) 19:20, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Guyanese

Hello. You have reverted changes that I have made to Visa Requirements for Guyanese Citizens for Vietnam and UAE.

[1] Vietnam: On the reference that is cited, it says: 'Visa required, except for Nationals of Guyana arriving at Phu Quoc (PQC) for a maximum stay of 30 days. Visa required, except for Nationals of Guyana arriving at Hanoi (HAN) or Ho Chi Minh City (SGN) with onward tickets for a connecting flight, on the same day, to Phu Quoc (PQC). THUS, VISA NOT REQUIRED.

[2] UAE: Again, 'Visa required, except for Passengers with a normal passport and a confirmation that a visa has been approved before departure can obtain a visa on arrival for a maximum stay of 96 hours, 30 days or 90 days.' THUS, it was changed to e-VISA.

I have made further changes, but before you revert them, here are the exerpts from the same references you supposedly cited.

[3] Bangladesh: 'Visa required, except for Nationals of Guyana with a return/onward ticket and traveling as tourists can obtain a visa on arrival for a maximum stay of 30 days. They can apply to extend their stay.' THUS, VISA NOT REQUIRED.

[4] Panama: 'Visa required, except for Nationals of Guyana for a maximum stay of 180 days'. THUS, VISA NOT REQUIRED.

I question your thoroughness. Did you actually read the references that you've cited?

Eriochrome (talk) 16:44, 28 November 2016 (UTC)Eriochrome[reply]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Eriochrome (talk • contribs) 16:30, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Eriochrome. Thank you for writing.
Regarding Vietnam, indeed, just as you write, visa for Vietnam is not required only for the tiny little resort island of Phú Quốc not the entire country. Your edit however says that Guyanese citizens do not require a visa for Vietnam. Full stop. This is obviously false and result of you not reading the entire reference thoroughly.
As for UAE, the quote you pasted here has no mention of "e-visa" yet you conclude with "THUS, it was changed to e-VISA." so I am a bit confused where did you read about an open e-visa facility for the UAE? The only electronic application that exists for the UAE is for passengers of certain airlines but that is not an evisa available to all.
As for Bangladesh, you cited a reference that says "tourists can obtain a visa on arrival" and you concluded "THUS, VISA NOT REQUIRED." It's a rather odd conclusion because it goes directly against a very simple information provided in the reference that says visa is obtained on arrival.
As for Panama, your edit is correct and it was not contested.
Hope this was helpful, have a great day.--Twofortnights (talk) 16:55, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Additions: [1] UAE 'E-visas can be obtained before departure at www.ednrd.ae. Passengers must have a printed e-visa confirmation and airlines can check the validity of the e-visa on the same site by clicking on "Query GDRFA-D APP". Visa required, except for Passengers with a normal passport and a confirmation that a visa has been approved before departure can obtain a visa on arrival for a maximum stay of 96 hours, 30 days or 90 days.' THUS E-VISA. Did you actually read the reference before you reverted the change?

[2] Bangladesh: I meant VISA ON ARRIVAL, which is what I had on the page. Is it not? Did you change it? I caution you to read the reference before you revert changes. I will make a formal complaint if you continue to do so.

Eriochrome (talk) 17:04, 28 November 2016 (UTC)Eriochrome[reply]

This is unbelievable. I don't know what you meant, I only know what you did. As for the evisa thing, I explained everything. And suddenly you go silent on Vietnam, wonder why?! Maybe because you were 100% wrong but were so aggressive as if you were 100% right? You need to calm down and show some respect to other editors.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:28, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]


I requre you to correct UAE immediately, else I will submit a formal complaint against you. Eriochrome (talk) 18:37, 28 November 2016 (UTC)Eriochrome[reply]

You do that. But please don't forget to attach an explanation on how a person can independently obtain a visa for the UAE through the eDNRD system.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:04, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Timatic

Hi. I want to ask a question about Timatic. If I see a mistake, I write them, they check and correct. In the last few times they refused to accept the request, because I do not have them paid account to log in to their database. I have a question. Wikipedia uses a reference to a closed part of a paid Timatic's database. Is it legal? Maybe we are all unwitting accomplices? Norvikk (talk) 11:27, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's the first time I hear this. You can openly access timatic via many airline pages - [66] without any subscription or log in.--Twofortnights (talk) 11:42, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Right. But maybe this is a paid subscription between Timatic and airlane. http://www.timaticweb2.com/register The information is used by agreement. We get information on the airline's website, we do not go to the database of Timatic. No problem. But Wikipedia uses a link to the database directly. (Timatic|destination=|nationality) And if there is no agreement on the use, then there may be a legal problem. I just asked for your opinion. Thanks. Norvikk (talk) 12:10, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I see your point but I am not sure? There is definitely no password or log in, despite the direct link into the database though. Do you have any suggestions?--Twofortnights (talk) 12:13, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure too. No, I don't. Norvikk (talk) 15:06, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Copy and Paste

Hello, my recent edit for Visa requirements for Armenian citizens was reverted by you saying "don't copy paste like that from another website". How should it be copied/pasted then? The source (timatic website) is there and it was taken directly from there. If it's the wrong format then please update the article with the missing info in the correct format. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shahanovski (talk • contribs) 12:32, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. You ask "How should it be copied/pasted then?" and the answer is - it must not be copy/pasted. Please get acquainted with Wikipedia:Copyright violations and Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources as it seems the whole concept is alien to you as you are not denying that you took the text directly from another site. Hopefully after reading those two pages you will know more on how to edit Wikipedia without making copyright violations. All the best,--Twofortnights (talk) 12:52, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

width="18%"

Hi. I changed the visa articles. Add width="18%. It looks better for tablet version. without with
Cheers. --Norvikk (talk) 18:13, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!--Twofortnights (talk) 18:57, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why was Philippines removed from the list of Visa required countries on the Cuba Visa Policy page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.171.97.57 (talk) 16:17, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My bad, sorry, I thought I was placing it back but Beardo already did that.--Twofortnights (talk) 16:52, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Plea

First, rare situations don't equal to policy violation, edits which are hard to be "seen in any other article" doesn't mean it violates Wikipedia policy. Also, you would better assuming good faith to other editors, I have made essential explanation for things happened before so you can just take it easy, unnecessary anger is bad for your health. Finally, I don't think which things I should stop because I did nothing wrong here and most of my edits are highly constructive. --Whisper of the heart 04:06, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

But that's not true and you know it, it's the policy that you can read at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking (External links should not normally be used in the body of an article. Instead, articles can include an External links section at the end, pointing to further information outside Wikipedia as distinct from citing sources.) and WP:NOTGUIDE (Describing to the reader how people or things use or do something is encyclopedic; instructing the reader in the imperative mood about how to use or do something is not.). But you already know all this and choose to ignore it, and my only guess you do that because you have this urge to cause trouble on Wikipedia. How else would you describe your edit a Visa policy of Cuba article when you just deleted one space, which was your first edit on that article and when the edit summary was something that was described by other Chinese speakers as almost 100/100 on an insult scale? Why would you do things like that? What issues do you have? You simply do uncalled for things, uncalled for aggressive behavior that causes disruption. Why? I have no idea, but I am asking you nicely to stop it or find another victim, I've been at the receiving end for too long, it's becoming ridiculous.--Twofortnights (talk) 10:08, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Holiday greetings!

Hi Norvikk! Thank you for the wishes! I hope you have a wonderful and prosperous 2017 as well! Happy holidays!--Twofortnights (talk) 01:18, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Indian E-visa for Armenian citizens

According to the map attached to this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Twofortnights/Visa_policy_of_India Armenian citizens also can receive E-visa for 30 days. Almost a couple of months ago I asked to edit the maps of this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Twofortnights/Visa_requirements_for_Armenian_citizens but no reactions.

Ukraine - Belarus

Hi,

the website of the Embassy of Belarus in Ukraine. http://ukraine.mfa.gov.by/ru/consular_issues/

Formal visa is not required for any period of time. --Norvikk (talk) 21:39, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks. So isn't the third point the same as anyone else? If you wish to stay over 90 days you must apply for temporary or permanent residence? It doesn't sound like an indefinite stay to me. For example Brazilian citizen can also stay for 90 days in Belarus but if they wish to stay longer they have to apply for a residence permit, right?--Twofortnights (talk) 21:43, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This question demands studying. I will try to find information. Thanks. --Norvikk (talk) 10:20, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you!--Twofortnights (talk) 18:22, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Unlimited for Russians. Union State.
The multilateral visa-free agreement of the CIS works for Armenia, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova (90 days), Tajikistan. Visa-free term is defined by the national legislation. Often it is limited to internal registration in local authorities. The information for these countries is different. unlimited, with the possibility of extension of registration/ 90 days/90 days annually. A request to the authorities of Belarus can only do a citizen of Belarus.
it is the law On legal status of foreign citizens and individuals without citizenship in the Republic of Belarus http://demoscope.ru/weekly/knigi/zakon/zakon0104.html "Chapter 4 article 39 of the Period of temporary stay in the Republic of Belarus of the foreigner arrived to the Republic of Belarus in the order not requiring a visa cannot exceed ninety days in a calendar year from the date of first entry into the Republic of Belarus, unless otherwise determined by this Law and international treaties of the Republic of Belarus."
I wrote to several embassies of Belarus for refining the rules of stay, but they can refuse to consider. --Norvikk (talk) 11:57, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Belarus

Hi, I made a request to the foreign Ministry of Belarus and the Belarusian Embassy in the UK. "Visa-free entrance for 5 days extends to holders of passports of BOTC · BN(O) · BOC"?"

the response from the Embassy: "Добрый день, Спасибо за сообщение. Да, на указанные вами паспорта также распространяется безвизовый режим, т.к. в них в графе гражданство указано British Citizen"

the response from the MFA: "...Что касается Вашего вопроса, разъясняем, что Соединенное Королевство Великобритании и Северной Ирландии входит в перечень государств, в отношении граждан которых распространяется действие Указа Президента Републики Беларусь "Об установлении порядка въезда и выезда иностранных граждан". Таким образом воспользоваться возможностью посещения Беларуси без виз смогут владельцы общегражданских паспортов Великобритании, в том числе Британских заморских территорий и Коронных земель, гражданская принадлежность которых определена как "гражданин Королевства Великобритании и Северной Ирландии", то есть в графе паспорта "nationality" (гражданство) которых указано British citizen (гражданин Великобритании). Граждане Китая, постоянно проживающие в специальном административном районе КНР Гонконг, могут посещать Беларусь только по общегражданскому паспорту САР Гонконг либо по паспорту КНР. ... Начальник Главного Консульского Управления" --Norvikk (talk) 16:38, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, those passports don't say "British citizen" they say "British national" or "British overseas territories citizen".
Another interesting question is do people who arrive on a 5 day visa have to leave via Minsk airport as well, or they can leave at any border crossing?
--Twofortnights (talk) 17:02, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Queries not clarified the situation. It was all in vain. Perhaps, the MFA doesn't see a difference between "British citizen" and "British national". I don't know.
I saw different interpretations in the press (through all points of the admission / through the airport of Minsk). I couldn't find information on it in official documents. Most likely need to leave through the Minsk airport. I will ask Embassy of Belarus in some European country about it.
"British citizen" is in Gibraltar passport, Guernsey passport, Isle of Man passport, Jersey passport. Maybe they meant only these passports. --Norvikk (talk) 18:56, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Entrance and departure only through the airport of Minsk. Deputy minister of sport and tourism of Belarus [67] --Norvikk (talk) 17:59, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The second answer from embassy: "The passport has to belong to the citizen of Great Britain, and these territorial units belongs to the EU. Yes, it is necessary to arrive and leave from Belarus through the airport of Minsk." I have got confused in information. It is better not to specify these passports, otherwise there will be a confusion. --Norvikk (talk) 19:57, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Australian citizens have to acquire Armenian visas in consulates, not on-arrival or by electronic authorization?

I just came across with this information, though can not be sure on its authentity as I did not manage to find that warning in the official website of Australia's Ministry of Tourism: http://www.armenpress.am/eng/news/854109/australian-citizens-travelling-to-armenia-to-acquire-entry-visa-in-advance.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.43.141.100 (talk) 03:23, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for letting me know. So far Armenian MFA website and IATA Timatic have not been updated to reflect this information but I will keep looking to see if they publish anything.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:17, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

VP of the UK

Hi, I have made some changes. I think it is better for mobile version.

was1 now1

was2 now2

Please, change it again if looks bad in desktop version or it isn't pleasant. Thanks. --Norvikk (talk) 17:53, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks! Looks better now than before on desktop as well.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:29, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Time for a slight map refresh?

Hello, you might recognise me from some of the edits I have made to Visa requirements for Singaporean citizens and Visa policy of Singapore.

I have been thinking about changing the standard map used in the articles to this one. The layout is similar, except the latter includes islands and national territories (like India's Andaman and Nicobar Islands and the USA's Hawaii) that are otherwise left out from the standard map. Switching to this version could complement the 'Territories' table included in all visa requirement articles.

The map requires some touching up, which can be done (eg: including circles for microstates, drawing lines to link country mainlands to their outlying territories). I just wanted to know what you think. Also, where do these maps come from? I've tried searching the blank map gallery on Wikimedia commons but to no avail. Tiger7253 (talk) 19:12, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for writing! I think we shouldn't change the map because a detailed was used previously on Visa requirements for Romanian citizens and it turned into a complete disaster at some point. Only a limited number of people knew how to edit it, the number of territories that should be on the map only kept growing and it wasn't readable for users who had no idea what all those spots on the map meant. That's why I would strongly recommend keeping the current simplified map and anything else in the tables below.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:20, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Guam and Northern Mariana Islands Visa Waiver Program

Hi, Why in the section the general rules of entrance for Russia and China are selected (nore1, note2)? All need to have a machine-readable passport, Form I-736 and Form I-94. Notes 1/2 are superfluous? And one more question. In what a difference between "visa-free" and "visa waiver"? In Russian it translates: entry without a visa. --Norvikk (talk) 20:47, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I put them outside the box for the box not to stretch for the whole page. Not sure if there is any meaningful difference between Russia and China and other countries in that program?
As for the difference between visa-free and visa waiver I don't think there is much of a difference but perhaps if you really try to find a difference in a meaning that would be that visa-free means entry without a visa and visa waiver means a visa is required but the gracious administration waives the requirement. In essence it's the same thing. In case of the US it's simply the name of the program "Visa Waiver Program" for countries that have met certain requirements. It means you can't call it "Visa Free Program" because it's like a personal name, they named the program "Visa Waiver Program" but could have also named it something else. For the other 3 countries, it's based on COFA and for Canada on some other laws.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:54, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Outside the box - it is ok, no problem. What distinctions between Russia and Malaysia? Requirements are identical (passport, forms). Right?
These are the questions which aren't connected with each other. I have used our main conversation (Guam) for specification of other question.I have asked because it is on the map. --Norvikk (talk) 21:19, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have made changes about which I spoke. If I am mistaken, don't hesitate to cancel my editing. Thank you very much. --Norvikk (talk) 13:59, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

About Visa requirements for Turkish citizens

Hi, Turkey citizens can get Australian visa from the internet (Online Visitor e600 visa). Can you fix the visa policy map? Do you know how to turn australia green? For example, australia is green in the visa map for ukraine citizens. Thank you Emresunay80 (talk) 13:06, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kosovo and Iraq entry ban for Singapore

Hello Twofortnights, thanks for your work on visa pages across Wikimedia sites.

I'd like to know if there was an ICA update regarding Kosovo passport-holders being refused entry into Singapore? I don't see this on the current website which was last updated 19 Jan 2016 (typo of 2017?), nor on any of the copies captured by the WayBack Machine, and the only reference on Visa policy of Singapore is a TimaticWeb source, so I thought you might know where else to look. As far as I can tell, the Iraqi S-series passport denials were due to the phasing out of an old insecure passport type in favour of more secure types, as the UK did in 2006.

May I also ask why you reverted QBear's edit? I'm trying to trace when this change took place to see if there was a publicly-stated reason for it, and saw your exchange in the Wikipedia article history.

Thanks! Icedwater (talk) 07:47, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the message. I know that the source says under Admission and Transit Restrictions that "Admission refused to holders of passports issued by Kosovo" and that "Admission and transit refused to holders of Iraqi "S" series passports.". Whether this was changed by ICA and Timatic was not updated, or vice versa, Timatic is up to date and ICA website is not, that I do not know. Do you have any suggestions how to find out if there was a change of policy and which source is right?--Twofortnights (talk) 10:54, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Passports of Åland islands

Hello, Åland does not issue their own passports. As your lnk clearly shows, those are Finnish passports as the islands are part of Finland. Cover might say "Åland" but it´s still the same passport. KaMeWa2 (talk) 17:36, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It'e Finnish passport of course but you are denying it exists. It does exist just like Danish passport for Greenland residents or Danish passport for Faroese residents. It's simple and no need for you to remove it.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:19, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It´s Finnish passport indeed. They are here issued regionally by regional police departments. So should we also list other regionally issued passports as well? KaMeWa2 (talk) 20:02, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Only when the cover is different and clearly states the region. As far as I know this is the case only with Aland Islands, Faroe Islands and Greenland. There are also different British and Chinese passports but this is a bit more complicated as the bearers also have different statuses. But as far as the simple regional passports go, I don't think there are other passports than those three.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:31, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
One additional word in the cover doesn´t make it a different passport. KaMeWa2 (talk) 14:05, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Of course it does. Finland has posted it separately to the PRADO database from the Finnish ordinary passport so it is a different passport.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:04, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It is issued by the same (regional) authority of a same country, it gives same privilegs of travelling and conditions for issue are the same. Where do you see the difference, except in a database? KaMeWa2 (talk) 21:58, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's physically different.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:32, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Which DOES NOT make it a different passport. Or if it does, then the same applies to all other regionally issued passports, what I mentioned earlier. KaMeWa2 (talk) 17:22, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It applies only to passports of Greenland and Faroe Islands.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:35, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Finnish diplomatic passport has 2 additional words in the cover. By your definition it is different passport. Should it be listed separately? KaMeWa2 (talk) 18:10, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Of course. Diplomatic passports represent a whole different type of passports. But it should not be on that list which is just for the ordinary passports.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:22, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Now we´re approaching my point. There are variations of passports, yes. But they do not make it a totally different one. Therefore, it is not relevant to mention those in this kind of listing. It´s better to go into details in spesific articles dealing about each passport in question. KaMeWa2 (talk) 18:25, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I agree we should mention only ordinary passport variations in that table. Meaning ordinary passport of Aland Islands of Finland should be included.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:33, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You seemed to miss my point. Once again, it is in no way different from Finnish passport. One or two words in the cover do not make a difference. Or if they do, then also diplomatic passport is a different one. Btw: article is: Passports of the European union. This should then cover ALL of them, as it is not "Ordinary passports of European union". KaMeWa2 (talk) 18:40, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Also BTW: Faroe islands and Greenland passports are not listed. KaMeWa2 (talk) 18:42, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You are probably right, perhaps the article should include all passports since it indeed does not restrict to just ordinary passports. It might be a big task to update the article though as there are so many different passports - [68].--Twofortnights (talk) 19:03, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That was ment to be sarcastic. There´s absolutely no point to list all possible passports in that article. As it doesn´t list Faroes or Greenland, it shouldn´t list Åland either. That is misleading. KaMeWa2 (talk) 16:17, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand why completing an incomplete list would have no point but OK. Anyway Greenland and Faroese passports must be included in the article.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:12, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirements for Egyptian citizens

Hi, please check references before you attempt to remove edits. Visa is in deed on arrival for Egyptian Citizens coming in Indonesia and Malaysia. Unlike countries such as Sudan which allows Egyptians without VISA and accept their national ID card [69] [70].M. Hassan talk here 09:06, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

M. Hassan that is outdated info. Indonesia replaced the 2005 visa on arrival scheme with visa-free regime last year.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:37, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Citizenships whose admission is refused list

Hello Twofortnights, do you know if there's any wikipage that lists the citizenships with any forbidden visits? Eg taiwanese cannot enter Georgia, israeli cannot enter Iran, etc ? Thanks, --Bouzinac (talk) 16:10, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, not that I know of. Many countries don't have comprehensive rules. For example some countries might refuse passports of Taiwan completely because the country does not recognize Taiwan but this would not be listed on Timatic because this country did not even notify anyone that it does not recognize Taiwan. That is why I don't edit the articles on visa requirements of such territories as I think the sources are incomplete and we could easily enter something that is wrong into the article.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:09, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I've created the list, if you had some time to review it ? Seems it is difficult to have all the prohibitions with many particular cases. But it is interesting to see that some people cannot even go to some countries.

List of nationalities forbidden at border --Bouzinac (talk) 10:26, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! It looks promising but I guess the list will always remain incomplete.

Armenian visa on arrival for Indian citizens holding residence permits of 5 GCC countries

I have came across with an information that Armenia is going to make available visa on arrival for Indian citizens holding residence permit of the 5 Gulf Cooperation Council countries (excluding Saudi Arabia). The source is in Armenian though. That newspaper also has an English and Russian sections but I have found that article only in Armenian language. http://hetq.am/arm/news/75525/iraqi-ev-hndkastani-qaxaqacineri-mutqy-hayastan-kheshtacvi.html

Dominican Republic

Hi, You know visa free countries are divided into two categories: 1. Without a visa 2. Without a visa, but with a tourist card. The Dominican Republic is referred to as "visa on arrival" on maps. I think it must be a "visa free" with the note "90 days (Tourist card $ 10 valid for 30 days upon arrival to purchase)".

Map: VR for British - right; VR for Russian - wrong
Table: VR for Russian - right; VR for British - wrong

What do you think? --Norvikk (talk) 18:56, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting question. I too wondered how to list some of the countries namely Dominican Republic, Sri Lanka and Cambodia. I am not sure about the DR I would have to think more about it.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:55, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The DR. In any case, the rules are identical for the visa waiver nationals. Maps and tables must be identical in all articles. We need to find acceptable option of presenting information. Thanks. --Norvikk (talk) 22:16, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I am wondering if we have any other similar examples? Chile had a reciprocity fee and was listed on the US map as visa on arrival and is still listed as visa on arrival on Australian citizens page. --Twofortnights (talk) 15:52, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I dont know similar examples. I think Chile should be green on the Australian map. In my opinion a map tells about visas. Table tells about additional terms and conditions - fees, travel vouchers, travel cards and other terms. --Norvikk (talk) 21:08, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am just wondering what is the difference between visa on arrival and supposedly visa-free but with payment of a fee? Most of visa on arrival countries are actually just countries with entry fee.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:26, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Criteria are not clear. Probably need to use the official information of the country of entry, the official position of the country. As the EU and Australia. They believe that the evisitor is the equivalent of visa-free entry, well, OK. Some country believes that the entry fee is a visa on arrival, other country believes that it is visa-free, well, OK. That's their visa policy. Articles should be submitted to the point of view of the country of entry. Visa-free agreement between Russia and Nauru says "citizens are exempt from the requirements of obtaining visas for entry". According to the government of Nauru is a "free visa on arrival". I don't agree with it, but Russia agrees, well, OK. The world is not perfect. Norvikk (talk) 22:02, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts on Visa requirements for Iranian Citizens

Hey, I told this to the IP editor so it only seems fair to inform you as well - you both seem to be engaging in slow-moving edit war behavior. Perhaps next time instead of reverting, leave a message on the talk page explaining your reasoning and pinging the other editors in order to try to build a consensus. If they fail to respond then reverting may be appropriate, but as of yet there have been no apparent attempts except by me to engage in discussion. Thanks, Pishcal (talk) 23:29, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Pishcal. I have actually engaged in that discussion however the IP editor blanked it - [71]. I am not sure how much we can achieve but I guess we can only keep trying.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:55, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for bringing that to my attention - talk page blanking is not appropriate. I've restored the conversation. Pishcal (talk) 00:08, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The outline of the countries on the maps.

Hi, You probably noticed the outline of Armenia incorrect on a few maps. Please fix this on two maps VP of Russia. If you have free time and desire. Thank you.
Outline of South Sudan. Has a significant difference. VR for UK vs VR for US.
The location of Hong Kong and Macau. Several options for the location. They are close to each other in real life. Very far (VR for citizens of Mongolia), far and different location (VR for UK vs VR for NZ), close (VR for RUS). Which map is the right one? Which map is the perfect? --Norvikk (talk) 16:37, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I know, you are right. The idea behind the maps is not to be geographically correct (many islands are not shown such as Hawaii, Tasmania) but to simply show undisputed countries with simplified borders. I agree the maps should be consistent so I will work on this in the future, although it is big work that requires a lot of work. I will prioritize those where it is the most likely to get noticed (for example it's more likely editors will be irked by the incorrect outline of Armenia on VP of Russia than on VP of Sudan map).--Twofortnights (talk) 19:21, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It is not big work, it is huge work! It demands great patience. Sorry, I won't be able to help in this case, my device isn't supported by the graphic editor. I always feel awkward when I ask you to make changes on a map. Thank you very much! --Norvikk (talk) 19:59, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I found a map with perfect contours of Armenia. It is VR for Argentine citizens's map. --Norvikk (talk) 16:14, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Online pre-arrival registration for Taiwan citizens visiting Hong Kong

Hi, I have already posted this message on your Wikimedia Commons talk page, but figured it would be easier to communicate with you on this talk page instead. Please change the colour of Taiwan to purple stripes on the Hong Kong visa policy map, as Taiwan citizens are allowed by the Hong Kong immigration department to obtain online pre-arrival registration free of charge for a social visit lasting 30 days. Thanks. --Agent5514 (talk) 14:23, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Sure, will do. Can't promise it this week but hopefully next week I can do it. Cheers.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:48, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Just a friendly reminder that the Hong Kong visa policy map is not reflecting the fact that Taiwan citizens are allowed a 30 day visa free stay if they have obtained pre-arrival registration (which is free of charge). It would be appreciated if you could update the map to reflect this Thank you! --Agent5514 (talk) 14:33, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:09, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Timatic

Hi,

Links format "Timatic|nationality=xX|destination=XX" don't work anymore. It's more than 4000 dead links. The big problem. I don't know what's going on. --Norvikk (talk) 18:30, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I canceled the edits on the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Twofortnights/Template:Timatic May be these changes became a reason for broken links.

Yes. Everything is working now. --Norvikk (talk) 13:27, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Two fornights

Hello Two for nights ! This is Kenneth! I like the work that you do greatly ! I like how you take the necessary time out of your schedule to update articles here on Wikipedia ! Keep up the good work... I would like for you to kindly update the Visa Requirements For Bahamas please ! I'm going on a trip so I just want to be updated on the countries I'll be visiting ! Thank you so much.. Calvinck3 (talk) 05:39, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I hope the article is up to date but it is also purely informative so if you need precise information for your trip always check the reference as well.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:24, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tajikistan

Hi,

Probably Tajikistan has cancelled visas on arrival. Only visa free (9 nations) and electronic visa (80 nations). Information on visas on arrival has disappeared from the database Timatic, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Tajikistan and Airport Dushanbe.

For citizens of Taiwan, Syria, Libya there were visas on arrival. I have written to Timatic. Today they have changed the database - visa is required.

Change of 80 articles and maps will be required. --Norvikk (talk) 20:55, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks. Was there any update to the law published in Russian that you can find? On the official website the VoA is still listed - [72]--Twofortnights (talk) 20:52, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I wrote to the MFA, Dushanbe airport and in a few embassies. No answers yet.
Embassy of Tajikistan in the U.K. visa on arrival Need to fill in the questionnaire. This questionnaire is similar to the questionnaire for the electronic visa. In both cases, need to provide "petition letter of the tourist organisation" . Perhaps Timatic refused to equate this process to the concept of Visa on arrival. Therefore, the information was removed from their database. --Norvikk (talk) 10:43, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirements for Singaporeans to Egypt

Hi Twofortnights,

According to the IATA data it states that Singaporeans have visa on arrival benefits to Egypt, but this is not reflected on the map. We should update it as soon as possible. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.161.133.87 (talk) 20:17, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Legend

Hi,
What you think about a horizontal legend? This edit [73]

[74]
[75]
[76]. --Norvikk (talk) 00:03, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if it is in accordance with the manual of style but I personally like it. I think it works great for these legends of the gradient of the same color. Good job!--Twofortnights (talk) 10:07, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I will do the changes. If these changes will cause a controversy, changes will be cancel or corrected. Thank you for your opinion. --Norvikk (talk) 11:12, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

issues regarding bno passport visa free

We have seen from georgia and azerbaijan evisa page, the uk in the country list does include bno passport. Please be note that georgia offers uk passport visa as shown in the webpage. For armenia evisa page, the countries not appear in the countries list is consider as visa free. Dont be silly to provide the false information to everybody. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.0.164.163 (talk) 22:26, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirements for EFTA nationals

Hi,

Look at this article Visa requirements for EFTA nationals

This Talk

The edit [77]

What's going on? Spring? --Norvikk (talk) 14:45, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Second case. The edit [78]. See Talk on the page. --Norvikk (talk) 18:20, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Welcome back Norvikk! I will look into it.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:10, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visa waiver program, onward travel ticket

Hi, I am wondering why you undid my revisions about the onward travel ticket. This is not listed as a requirement on the DHS or CBP official websites. And when I called the DHS and ESTA offices this month to make sure, I spoke with three different people who all confirmed that this is not required. My wife is in this case, so I needed to know for sure what is correct. Also, we came in before to the US on the VWP and nobody every said anything about seeing this ticket. Would you mind updating the Wikipedia article so people know this is not a current requirement? Otherwise, people may get misled. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.33.59.72 (talk) 16:32, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the official DHS webpage for requirements: https://www.dhs.gov/visa-waiver-program-requirements — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.33.59.72 (talk) 16:35, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirements for Chinese citizens of Macau

I got a complaint. Can you explain this edit? You didn't use an edit summary, so it's not easy to understand your reasoning. El_C 04:40, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's a direct copy/paste of content from the source. It should be summarized in the article to avoid any possible copyvio. For example "Tourist groups of 5 or more do not require a visa for stays up to 30 days if holding an accommodation reservation and a return ticket." or something like that.--Twofortnights (talk) 09:24, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, makes sense. Next time, an 10-second edit summary that reads "copyvio of source" can prove a time saver and is just helpful to note for the record. El_C 10:05, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

British laws

Hi,

I can't find some old British laws.

First British published list of visa states: Home Office, Immigration appeals Bill: Draft Instractions to Immigration Officers cmnd 3830 (November 1968), Appendix

Statement of Changes of Immigration Rules, 1982-1983 House of Commons Papers 66, Appendix

Exchange of Notes between the United Kingdom and Denmark respecting the reciprocal abolition of visas on passports on 29 Jan 1924

Can you help me? Thanks. --Norvikk (talk) 10:59, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I can try but maybe they are not published online. In that case a FOI request would need to be filed through https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/ --Twofortnights (talk) 11:06, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I will try. Thanks. --Norvikk (talk) 11:45, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Registration for inquiry is required. I have sent a request on the website gov.uk.
When I filled in the table about visa history of the Kingdom I have been surprised about existence with visa-free regimes with several countries in the past. It is a surprise for me. Interesting visa story.! --Norvikk (talk) 19:39, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

about visa requirement and visa policy

visa requirement/visa policy always delete the correct information without any explanation. For example,

someone on Mar 31 deleted Macau in visa free section in visa policy of Tanzania without any explanation, it at least obtain visa on arrival which is the same as China passport

delete Macau in Zambia visa policy on Mar 18, although evisa page shows visa free.

The Uganda visa policy page never shows Hong Kong as visa free without any explanation.

For visa free of Chinese citizen of Macau, the Georgia can be accessed by evisa, same as Hong Kong which can be seen in IATA, but someone deleted without any explanation.

For visa policy of ukraine, it never shows Macau as visa on arrival which confirms by the Macau Government recently.

Please look into the issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2404:C800:9003:8:0:0:0:13 (talk) 05:42, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

India e-Visa

Hi, now that the e-Visa has branched out into three separate categories (e-Tourist, e-Business, and e-Medical), I think it'd be prudent to simply call it the 'e-Visa' in all visa requirements tables. The official site now refers to it as the 'e-Visa' (https://indianvisaonline.gov.in/evisa/tvoa.html). You can see my edit here. Tiger7253 (talk) 18:41, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, yes that makes sense!--Twofortnights (talk) 21:25, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand agreements

Hi,

I can't find information on visa agreements with Japan, the USA, Argentina, Israel and Uruguay. Maybe agreements of these countries with United Kingdom extended to New Zealand? I don't know depth of relationship between NZ and UK in 40s, 50s, 60s. In article New Zealand passport, passport of NZ (1949-1950s-1960s) with an inscription British Passport. The agreements of United Kingdom with these countries are in the article VP of the UK - Data of visa abolition. I can't translate online, it is the scanned text. Perhaps, these agreements are applied on the right of legal succession. --Norvikk (talk) 19:59, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's possible that there are no bilateral agreements especially with the US. These countries may be simply listed on the visa waiver list by the parliament/government? But of course it is also possible that the British agreement were inherited. The problem would be finding the other source because Japan and Israel use different scripts where I can't even guess where to look and Uruguay and Argentina don't have a strong online database like the UK does. There is a FOI request possibility here as well - [79].--Twofortnights (talk) 21:28, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I can't find the visa agreement with Argentina in the NZ database but it is useful that now I see how British signed agreement still apply - [80] for example the Treaty between the United Kingdom and Argentina for the Mutual Extradition of Fugitive Criminals. applies to NZ.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:33, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Found the one for the US - Agreement between the United States of America and New Zealand concerning Visas for Travel between United States of America and New Zealand. effective from 1 April 1949.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:35, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There is an easier way than filing a FOI request, there is a contact form here - [81]--Twofortnights (talk) 21:39, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have found the website with laws of New Zealand. Detailed website. [82]
From 1 November 1987 the visa-free countries are added to the list. This order works still.
Now it is Immigration (Visa, Entry Permission, and Related Matters) Regulations 2010 (see Download) page 41
From 1930 to 1987 it was Immigration Restrictions Regulations 1930 with few amendments page 25. All changes of this document on the site. But main text of 1930 I couldn't find. I did a request. --Norvikk (talk) 11:53, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Data of visa abolition section

Hi, I assume that we look at content of the section at different angles.

Cuba. USSR -> Russia and Cuba had several visa-free agreements: 1981 - 1985; 1985 - 1994; 1994 - present; in progress negotiations on a new agreement. These agreements are united by one - visas have been cancelled. In your opinion, which date should be in the section - 1981 or 1994? --Norvikk (talk) 13:26, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would say 1994 and then a note saying how previously there were visa-free agreement between 1981 and 1985 and 1985 and 1994. Although I am not sure if Soviet agreements that were never valid in Russia should be mentioned.--Twofortnights (talk) 14:55, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Soviet agreement 1985 was valid in Russia. All agreements of the USSR was valid for Russia. In international law, Russia successor of the Soviet Union. Should be mentioned. This fact can't be ignored. Note: Visa-free agreements between the USSR and Cuba was applied from 1981. Or other. --Norvikk (talk) 17:12, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
But was is the same agreement under the same terms or was it one of those Soviet voucher schemes? Why did they sign a new agreement in 1985 and 1994? Because there was no pause in application when it comes to Cuba. You have to look at the agreements from 1981 and 1985, maybe they were the same but only said "the agreement will be applicable for the period of 5 years", and then it was just extended in 1985?. In that case you can say that the agreement applies from 1981 without a note. If the previous agreements were under different terms then you can say the visa-free applies from 1994 and in the note "Previous visa-free agreements under different terms were applied in period 1981-1985 and 1985-1994."--Twofortnights (talk) 18:25, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
These are different agreements. Conditions changed. Tourist travels were visa-free in the presence of travel documents. Travel documents were determined with each country separately. Until 1992 it was a voucher - pre-paid travel package. --Norvikk (talk) 12:08, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yugoslavia After collapse of Yugoslavia and the USSR were formed 20 states (Serbia and Montenegro as the one state). One agreement has turned into 75 potential agreements. Incredible case. Some countries still enforce this agreement. It's a tangle. --Norvikk (talk) 22:34, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Templates

User Nthep have killed ALL references on the visas articles (over than 40.000!!). He have changed the Template:Timatic Visa Policy and Template:Timatic.

I think This person has exceeded the authority.

Every day in Wikipedia takes away a piece of nerves. --Norvikk (talk) 14:43, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Do you remember our conversation? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Twofortnights/User_talk:Twofortnights#Timatic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Twofortnights/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Is_this_a_copyvio_or_just_a_breach_of_a_website.27s_T.26Cs.3F%7Cit is a sequel.

What can I say. We were discussing this before, it's an openly accessible website, there is no log-in required, links were taken from an open forum (FlyerTalk) so I am not sure how is it a violation of anything. It is only used as a reference so don't see why copyright status is relevant anyway, I've always removed content that some users would copy/paste from Timatic as that is different but simply using it as a reference, don't see where the problem is. For example we can cite a book, the book is copyrighted, it is for sale etc. but we can still use it as a reference. Nevertheless here the links are completely openly available so I doubt it's a subscription service, it would make no sense. Also I don't think the content on Timatic pages can be copyrighted really, in most of the countries information and facts can't be copyrighted. But if a bot can replace all of the links with a link to www.iatatravelcentre.com which is supposedly OK then it should be fine.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:57, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Twofortnights: "But if a bot can replace all of the links with a link to www.iatatravelcentre.com which is supposedly OK". It is not OK, as it is merely based on Timatic, and not Timatic itself, and I've seen a number of cases of the Travel Centre containing outdated info when cross-checked against the actual Timatic.
If the template must be changed, I suggest using the actual Timatic, with the exact same URL but with the username FLIGHTWORX rather than KLMB2C André Devecserii (talk) 04:19, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visa reciprocity information for HKSAR passport holders

On 10 May 2014, you edited the Visa requirements for Chinese citizens of Hong Kong article to remove all information about visa reciprocity (in the edit reason you stated 'reciprocity information to be found at Visa policy of Hong Kong'). At present, however, there is no visa reciprocity information in either article. Could you either restore the information to the Visa requirements for Chinese citizens of Hong Kong article or add it to the Visa policy of Hong Kong article please? Bonus bon (talk) 23:58, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Timatic issue

Hi there, Nthep has provided a response from Timatic. It seems like they think the use of the template is "reverse engineering" for some reason. However, they did mention that accessing Timatic through a public interface is allowed (e.g., from Gulf Air's website). C-GAUN (talk) 18:25, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I saw that. It makes no sense at all, the links to the database are publicly available and it's been the case for years and years, I don't see where the "reverse engineering" claim comes from. I also don't see which part of the user terms of use are being violated, they never pointed that out. And also I am not sure how we can code the references here to provide access to Timatic through a public interface.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:52, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I also disagree with IATA's claim, given that so many airlines and other organizations provide free access to Timatic for anyone through their own websites. Air Berlin even provides a username and password for anyone to use the Timatic website directly (see the link at the bottom of this page), and the system doesn't even require a password when the variables are typed directly in the URL. Anyway, even if the terms of use don't really suggest a violation, IATA is the owner of the system and it complained directly to Wikipedia, so I think that we should accept its demand. Moreover, it looks like IATA has blocked access to Timatic from Wikipedia links. For example, if you click here, the page says "Forbidden". But if you then click on address bar and press enter, the Timatic page is correctly displayed.
For now, I propose changing the templates to simple links, this one for {{Timatic}} and this one for {{Timatic Visa Policy}}, where the user would have to manually select the desired fields to get the information. At least it would provide a way for the user to see the reference, until someone can figure out how to make it automatic. Heitordp (talk) 22:55, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a perfect solution. But there is no other option. If you are sure that it is legal, do it. Thank you. Norvikk (talk) 18:33, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This way the request for Timatic information is done from the subscriber's interface on its own website, which IATA said that is legal. I changed the templates accordingly. Heitordp (talk) 05:05, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Iraqi visa policy map

Hi, there's been an overhaul of the Kurdish visa policy (and I've edited the article accordingly), but the map hasn't been updated André Devecserii (talk) 06:14, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tajik VOA

Please edit your Tajik visa policy maps, as VOA is no more. Also eVia eligibility has been somewhat expanded, with Hong Kongers, for example, now being eligible André Devecserii (talk) 10:01, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks. I think there were some doubts on whether this was an actual change in Tajikistan or just something on Timatic, I think we were awaiting a reply from Tajikistan authorities.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:26, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Twofortnights: No, it is true. Got it confirmed from my sources at Tajik immigration on the phone André Devecserii (talk) 05:04, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
OK thanks. Their new website still lists the simplified visa procedure though, they ought to update it.--Twofortnights (talk) 12:46, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Twofortnights: The Yugoslav countries are equally lazy about updating their sites, so nothing new really. André Devecserii (talk) 17:15, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

about visa requirement

Please explain why the recent edit content in Visa requirements for Chinese citizens of Hong Kong is accepted, but it is deleted in Visa requirements for Chinese citizens of Macau, be noted that the rules is also applied in both citizens.182.239.72.56 (talk) 01:20, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just adding some wikilinks. Primefac (talk) 01:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It was an error. The original research info should be gone from both articles and this was agreed before already. People from Macau and HK might be Chinese citizens but not the same rules apply to their passport holders as the ordinary PRC passports, just like PRC has a different visa policy from Macau and HK.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:39, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

about visa requirement

The Macau and HK SAR passport holders Chinese citizens. The nationality shown on passport information is Chinese and the MRP shown as 'CHN'. Many countries treated these passports as original PRC passport. You might be wrong in understanding this issue.182.239.69.24 (talk) 23:15, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

C-GAUN - this again.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:03, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I left a message for him on the talk page of his last known IP address and haven't heard back from him yet. As he is using a mobile network, the IP address tends to change frequently. I will keep leaving messages to let him know. C-GAUN (talk) 21:07, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!--Twofortnights (talk) 21:09, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is getting out of hand. I have issued three warnings in the last few hours but this guy just keeps coming at it. He has not responded to any of my messages either. C-GAUN (talk) 02:52, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Maintenance tag

Hi. I put a maintenance tag on the Visa policy of the Schengen Area article which you removed (without engagement on the issue). The grammar needs to be re-worked in the majority of the sections; complex sentences with complex grammar are making the whole thing entirely unclear. But despite that, there are various content issues which go against WP:NOTGUIDE. I'm referring to the 'Obtaining a visa' section, which is basically a step by step process in how to get a Schengen visa (and in my opinion, should be simplified entirely or else removed). Rather than putting the tag back on the page, I'd like to get your views on the development of the article before I post on the talk page. st170e 20:56, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi St170e. I removed it because you did not start any discussion on the talk page where you would lay out the issues in detail so that those issues could be fixed. When you tag the entire article with a maintenance tag that says the article is confusing you really need to explain it, this is not something that comes as obvious to other editors I would say. Saying broadly how the grammar is complex will never get the article fixed, because what is complex grammar for one person is very simple for another, so it could remain tagged for years. As for the obtaining a visa section, I agree it needs to be edited, it doesn't mean this section should be removed, but yes you are right, the current look is that of a guide which Wikipedia is not. I suggest opening a discussion on the talk page on how to rework the section to make it more encyclopedic. Thanks.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:20, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Timatic

OK, so now the Flightworx interface requires you to log in, meaning that is no longer an option either. Any suggestions? André Devecserii (talk) 10:50, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Was it the suggestion of IATA to link to Flightworx? We could replace it with http://www.iatatravelcentre.com/ but the layout is terrible.--Twofortnights (talk) 13:10, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Twofortnights: The problem with that one is that its info isn't always up to date in relation to the actual Timatic. But if that's all we've got, guess that's it :/ André Devecserii (talk) 21:28, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That's annoying. I'm the one who suggested Flightworx. IATA suggested IATA Travel Centre but that interface requires way too much input and only shows individual combinations of nationality and destination, so it doesn't work for the full visa policy. There are other websites with the same interface as Flightworx did, I suggest Pearl Law Group (individual, full), Olympic Air (individual, full) or Surinam Airways (individual, full). Heitordp (talk) 17:05, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds like a much better solution.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:27, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What would also be good is to switch to other sources where available when a certain country code is invoked. For example if Georgia country code is invoked it would lead to the following page instead of Timatic - [83]. The real problem is with countries that do not publish their visa policies online but we can at least work with those that do.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:02, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

please update 5 maps

Hi, I left message on your wikimedia page , please update those 5 outdated maps. --31.202.25.100 (talk) 12:20, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks but that news article from 2016 says that Turkey is going to lift visa requirements in the future not that it was already done. Please keep following this official page - www.mfa.gov.tr/visa-information-for-foreigners.en.mfa for any changes to Turkish visa policy.
Turkey lifted the restrictions already. They didn't update their own website. Your maps are wrong.--31.202.25.100 (talk) 21:55, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You need to provide a source for that claim.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:13, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Two for nights

Hello Two for nights ! This is Men ! Can you ease update visa requirements of Bahamian citizens.. Please I'll be going on a trip very soon so I would like to be updated about the countries I visit . thank you so much ! Calvinck3 (talk) 05:57, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. The map seems to be up to date!--Twofortnights (talk) 07:39, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mongolia Visa policy

Hello,

I think there is a slight mistake in the map for Mongolia's visa policy. The map shades Cuba under dark blue (indicating that Cubans have 90 days visa free access) while the rest of the article states that Cubans only have 30 days visa free access. Cuba should be shade in light blue (30 day visa free countries) as opposed to dark blue (90 day visa free countries).

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bs980 (talk • contribs) 08:15, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!--Twofortnights (talk) 09:23, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Two for nights

Hello Two for nights ! This is Calvinck3 ! I would like if you would so kindly update the Visa requirements for Bahamian Citizens ! Thank you so much ! Keep up the tremendous work ! Calvinck3 (talk) 06:02, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. The article seems to be up to date and I've made some small corrections to the map.--Twofortnights (talk) 08:13, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Twofortnights

Hello Two fortnights ! This is Calvinck3 ! I would appreciate if you can update the Visa Requirements for Bahamian Citizens page ! Norviik has deleted his page and can you also update the Visa Requirements Maps has well Thank you ! One last question I have a picture of Bahamian passport and I would like if you can update it for me.. I'm having trouble going about it.. Thank you Two fortnights ! Calvinck3 (talk) 14:07, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I have made an update to the Bahamian citizens visa requirements map. As for the passport picture, I think it was deleted by someone for being a copyright violation. Unless you can prove that the Bahamian law allows for the passport picture to be uploaded it would be deleted again.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:49, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Israeli stamps

@BushelCandle +Twofortnights, the problem with the Israeli stamps us that them seem to target specific type of countries: East Asian/West Pacific [China, Hong Kong, Japan, Korea (South), Philippines, San Marino, and Thailand], major historically-Catholic countries [Andorra, Brazil, France, Hungary, Mexico, Monaco, Poland, Portugal, and Spain], and some random set of countries [Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Norway, and Serbia]. It explicitly excludes most Anglophone countries except Australia and New Zealand, African countries, Carribean countries, and certain large countries such as India, Italy, and Russia. There seem to be an intrinsic reason why the editor is intent on forewarning people from these countries. That and the statement reamins unsourced which may equate to vandalism. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 20:00, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You may wish to comment here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Travel_and_Tourism&oldid=786797087#Template_for_Israeli_passport_stamps BushelCandle (talk) 17:19, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Surprised

Hello mate,

Who is this user going with the username""BushelCandle"? -He's promoting himself of view requirement wikies, assigning own template or style of writing as if he came up with the bible or something. He keeps adding irrelevant refrences (For instance; French national travelling to Iraq timatic page as a reference to a Lebanese travelling to China section, plus he keeps removing valid validity, vaccination, and passport rejection scenarios without citing a valid reason. I'm onto his undo-practices and will take every chance in reporting him once he gets into 3 undo's. Please be-aware as he's into many other wikipages.

Hi. I would suggest trying to talk to the editor about any issues on his talk page first before reporting etc. Perhaps it was an honest mistake. If it turns out it was intentional you can always take it further.--Twofortnights (talk) 08:46, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ask her. She has made good contributions to the site, so is certainly not a troll André Devecserii (talk) 13:09, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
The Graphic Designer's Barnstar

For your work with maps. Thank you very much! --Norvikk (talk) 19:02, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Norvikk! And welcome aboard the map editing!--Twofortnights (talk) 14:42, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Map

Hi. Why do you combine Israel and Palestine on a map? 134 UN countries presenly the State of Palestine. International recognition of the State of Palestine

--Norvikk (talk) 21:53, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Because we only show full UN member states plus Vatican which is not disputed. It's the safest thing to do. No exceptions regardless of how many bilateral recognitions. Because everything else is not objective. If we say we put Palestine on the map, then someone will ask for Western Sahara, if we put Western Sahara someone will ask for Kosovo, if we put Kosovo someone will ask for Abkhazia, if we put Abkhazia someone will ask for Northern Cyprus, and if we put Northern Cyprus on the map then someone will ask for Somaliland and then we end up with this - File:Visa requirements for Romanian citizens.svg which is insane and no one will want to update it. So the best thing to do is avoid such nonsense (which would surely be accompanied with an incredible amount of edit wars and locked files) and stay in the safe zone of depicting only the main table of visa requirements while everything that is in other sections of visa articles ie. territories should stay off the map. I must say it worked quite well in keeping the quarrels off these maps so far, and the success recipe is tying the maps to something that is completely objective.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:05, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You're talking about VP and VR maps, or only about VR maps? --Norvikk (talk) 15:29, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well both. Although with VP it doesn't even make much sense as most countries ignore disputed places in their official visa policies (which makes even IATA info notoriously wrong on them too). Sometimes when countries do have a clear policy on certain regions which is different from the main entity, and where it seems to be rather important because it concerns neighbouring countries, for example Russia with Georgia and breakaway republics, I guess we can show it but in most cases it makes no sense. Another thing is that Palestine does not actually control its borders but that's not the main point as we would then have to analyze the situation with all of them which is impossible.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:07, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The main reason why the visa requirement map that you cited is too complicated is because it includes many small areas that are prohibited for foreigners, uninhabited, or have special visa policies for transits. These cases can be disregarded. On the other hand, I think that including only undisputed countries (UN members and Vatican City) can be misleading sometimes, because many disputed or dependent territories have different visa policies and people in some of them cannot obtain the same passport as the parent country. I propose the objective criteria below.
For visa policy maps, what matters is the passport. In principle, only undisputed countries would be included, disputed countries would be merged with their claiming country, and dependent territories or overseas regions would be shown only if large enough to not require a circle, such as Greenland and French Guiana. However, if people in a disputed/dependent territory cannot obtain the passport of the parent country to enter the destination on the same terms, or if they can enter the destination on better terms using the disputed/dependent territory's passport, this territory should be shown separately. According to these criteria:
  • Palestine would be shown separately on all maps where only Israel or only Palestine gets a visa waiver, because Palestinians cannot obtain Israeli passports;
  • Kosovo would be merged with Serbia on most maps but shown separately for the Schengen Area, where they do not get a visa waiver with Serbian passports issued in Kosovo;
  • Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau would be shown/colored differently from China whenever they get different visa waivers;
  • Abkhazia and South Ossetia would be merged with Georgia on all maps except for Russia and the Cayman Islands;
  • Northern Cyprus would be merged with Cyprus on all maps except for Turkey;
  • Western Sahara, Somaliland, Transnistria and Nagorno-Karabakh would always be merged with their respective claiming country;
  • Other territories, unless large enough, would not be shown because their people can obtain a regular passport of the parent country, with a few exceptions such as Akrotiri and Dhekelia, which can be merged with Cyprus as its native people are Cypriot citizens; Bermuda, which does not need ESTA for the US; and American Samoa, which would be shown only for Samoa.
For visa requirement maps, I propose including in principle only undisputed countries, but adding any other entities in the list of sovereign states, inhabited dependent territories and overseas regions whenever they have a different visa policy from their parent country for the nationality in question. But other subnational regions continuous with the rest of the country (or islands very close to it) would not be shown even if they have a different policy. In this case, the maps wouldn't look too bad because the visa policies of territories and of the parent country only differ for some nationalities. For example, the File:Visa requirements for Romanian citizens.png would only need the following changes:
  • Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Nagorno-Karabakh shown in gray;
  • Gray circles for Tokelau and the Cayman Islands;
  • Green circles for Hong Kong and Macau.
If you agree, we don't have to change all maps at once, but just accept future map changes according to these criteria. If you think that my proposal is too complicated, I still think that at least Palestine should be shown separately on visa policy maps, as it's the only disputed or dependent territory whose parent country does not consider the people there as its nationals and thus does not provide them any type of its passport (but Palestine can be merged with Israel on visa requirement maps as it doesn't have an additional visa policy). Also, Palestine and Vatican City are the only UN observer states, so we could make the objective criteria full or observer membership in the UN. I'm not taking sides on the political conflict, just want to find objective criteria that is not misleading. Heitordp (talk) 22:19, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Heitordp! Thanks for the detailed analysis. I gave it a lot of thought over the last three days. I agree with many of the things that you said. However major concerns still remain. Namely, I am concerned about the objective measure and also on how much we can research in practice. For example "Palestinians cannot obtain Israeli passports" - but is it always the case? Is there a law which prohibits Palestinians from obtaining Israeli passports or do Palestinians refuse to do something that would make them full fledged citizens? Apparently 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs (Arab citizens of Israel) so the matter seems complicated. And if we take that as a measure, we would then have to find out all nuances of obtaining Serbian, Georgian, Chinese, Cypriot, Turkish, Somali, Moroccan etc. passports to find out whether they are eligible or not. For example Serbian passports issued in Kosovo are not eligible for Schengen waiver, but what if a Kosovan gets his Serbian passport at a Consulate of Serbia abroad? Can we realistically get answers to such questions? Then it also means we have to follow recognition and relations as per your suggestion to merge Abkhazia and South Ossetia on all maps except for Russia and Cayman Islands. It means to make those maps we first have to check whether Russia and Cayman Islands recognized them and declared a separate visa policy before creating a map. A huge gap is then for all the countries that have broad visa policies - for example visa on arrival for all coming to the Comoros. But what does "all" mean? Does it mean any passport, so if an Abkhazian passport holder arrives to the Comoros does that also make him eligible or is it just for the countries that the Comoros has diplomatic relations with? We won't find that info on IATA and most African countries don't publish their policies anywhere online. Then we also come to very subjective moments such as Western Sahara should be merged with Morocco on all maps but we would have different policy for Palestine which you suggest should be shown on all maps where only Israel or only Palestine gets a visa waiver. Without going into the fact that most countries do not list disputed countries as described on the Comoros example making it impossible to know what would actually happen with a Palestinian passport holders in such places, it's also confusing why would we show Palestine which does not control its borders separately while Western Sahara which has some land, albeit very small, under control and both places have significant international recognition. Although what is significant international recognition is another question, is it the majority of countries (upper house style) meaning countries that pursue recognitions by small island states get advantage or should we count the population (lower house style) meaning that without the recognition of China and India you don't have much to hope for. Opening that can of worms would then bring the lack of recognition of Israel into the spotlight as well. And then we will also get a question of how do we show Crimea? Do we want to follow de facto or de jure policy here. All of this would attract political commentators and edit wars that we don't care about and don't want. Visa articles have been free of that specifically because they relied on strong objective criteria. Anything else would get us into a labyrinth without a way out.

Autonomous territories with independent visa policies could be included but it's too much of a clutter for a not so relevant subject. If you check the statistics of how many people read which visa policy articles you will see that only a very very small number of readers go to the articles on British, French and Dutch territories. The Cayman Islands visa policy was clicked on by 85 people last month, French territories stood at 2,038 and Dutch at 1,187 views. This is compared with the 9,246 views for the UK visa policy article or the 22,384 views for the Schengen policy article.

What I do agree on however is to include disputed territories where it's extremely relevant, so Georgian breakaway republics could be shown on Russian VP/VR maps. Kosovo could be shown on Albanian and Northern Cyprus on Turkish VP/VR maps. Also Taiwan is geographically always going to be shown separately so that can be shown without fear of edit wars moving the border line around. However I am against any changes across the board as there are a lot of questions and not enough answers. It would make us vulnerable to political edit wars, and I couldn't care less about figuring out the status of Western Sahara, apartheid citizenship policies in Israel or Somali statehood crisis. I would really like to continue keeping the visa articles and maps free of politics and that is why I propose to stick to the most objective criteria as we did so far but also to expand the tables as much as possible with various special permit rules for territories around the world such as Mount Athos, Tibet, Gorno-Badakhshan etc. as I am sure we have missed many. Cheers!--Twofortnights (talk) 20:57, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Twofortnights, thank you for taking the time to write your detailed response. When I wrote that Palestinians cannot get Israeli passports, I meant Palestinian residents of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Although Israel gained control of these territories, it did not annex them, so it did not grant Israeli nationality or even residency to people living there. They are allowed to reside only in the territories, and are very restricted from even entering or transiting through Israel. The exception is East Jerusalem, which was part of the West Bank but was officially annexed, so its residents were given Israeli residency with the option of getting full Israeli citizenship. For these people the situation is as you suggest, some applied to become Israeli citizens but most just didn't want it. But those living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip are really not allowed to do so. The case of Israeli Arabs is different, many of them also call themselves Palestinians but they are Israeli citizens because they or their ascendants already resided in the undisputed part of Israel when the country was founded.
But now that I think further, the situation does get more complicated because only about one third of the area of the West Bank is actually controlled by the Palestinian government, the rest is controlled by Israel, with many Israeli citizens living in settlements or uninhabited. In this sense it's similar to Western Sahara. Moreover, the nuances of obtaining passports in other disputed countries is also complicated. I'd argue that Palestine is different because unlike all others it's not actually "claimed" by Israel as its own territory but only "disputed" (you can check this terminology in the list of sovereign states), but for example citizens of China and Taiwan can only obtain the "main version" of the other country's passport after establishing residency there, and I imagine that residents of other disputed countries also have to at least travel to the claiming country to obtain its passport. People in Kosovo can obtain a Serbian passport there through the Serbian Coordination Directorate, and I imagine that if a resident of Kosovo gets a Serbian passport elsewhere, such as in the undisputed part of Serbia or a Serbian embassy or consulate abroad, the passport would be valid for the Schengen visa waiver.
In the case of destinations that grant a visa waiver or visa on arrival to "all" countries, I initially thought that it would mean countries that the destination recognizes, but I see that many destinations still accept passports of countries that they don't officially recognize, to avoid burdening travelers. So even recognition by each destination, which can be objectively verified, cannot really be used as a basis to show a disputed country on a map separately or not. In cases like Crimea, I'd prefer to go by the situation de facto, but I see that it's also complicated as residents of Crimea are allowed to choose between Russian or Ukrainian nationality and thus their respective passports.
Anyway, I admit that the situation in all these places is more complicated than what I tried to establish, so now I agree with your simplified practice of showing only undisputed countries on maps, with the exception of cases where the destination is relevant in the dispute as you cited. It's not misleading. I also agree with not showing small dependent territories to avoid cluttering the maps, and only listing them on a separate table in visa requirement articles. But I also suggest adding notes on the main table, something like "see below for disputed or dependent territories" next to each claiming or parent country. Heitordp (talk) 05:34, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Heitordp! Cheers! I think we should definitely continue to research this though, even if it is something that we can't put on the map, migration rules regarding disputed territories is something quite interesting yet something that is very difficult to write about due to scarcity of information. Passport and nationality rules in such places, but also in territories such as American Samoa where similar but not the same passports are issued and implications of those on visa policies is quite interesting too.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:33, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hey!

Hey! Why did you delete the question/complaint about the ban against Qatari citizens? All I wanted to do was to be nice with you and ask WHEN the boycott will be permanently lifted. Please, I want to ask you nicely! :'( --62.63.238.28 (talk) 23:23, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Because I think you are asking at the wrong place. I have no idea when you will be able to travel as I do not decide on this.--Twofortnights (talk) 09:42, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry. Please, forgive me, but HOW should I contact anyone who is responsible for travel ban between Qatar and those 3 countries: Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates? I think that the travel ban is so AWFUL! :'( --62.63.238.28 (talk) 13:37, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think you should try with embassies of those 3 countries. They should have the latest info.--Twofortnights (talk) 15:27, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Ireland

Hi, I've just noticed that you changed the image at Visa policy of Ireland. A visa waiver in Ireland is only conditional on having a UK visa - this should therefore not be included as a different colour in the map. Russian citizens for example do need a visa for Ireland and it would be misleading to say that they have a visa waiver. To save confusion, it would be best to revert the colour change. Similarly, Schengen/US/UK visa holders can have the visa requirement waived for Albania but this is not reflected in the map. st170e 02:53, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I called it "Visa waiver" because the Irish Government named the scheme that way - [84]. I agree the title is imprecise but how can we rename it?--Twofortnights (talk) 18:39, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not actually sure we should include it in the map as visas are still required by these nationals. We don't want to overcomplicate the map itself, but we can point out in the body of the article that such a visa waiver exists. Calling it a visa waiver may imply that visas for all citizens are waived, but we should emphasise that it is limited. st170e 02:02, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I guess so. I included it only because it is limited to a few nationalities rather than being available to everyone.--Twofortnights (talk) 10:05, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just getting around to finally doing this. My software isn't working to change the graphics, could you do that? If not, no problem. I'll update the article and mention the visa waiver for those with UK visas. st170e 20:08, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OK I will do it.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:43, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Very much appreciated, thank you! st170e 21:01, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of the United Kingdom map

Hi Twofortnights!

I appreciate the work you have done on the map for the UK visa policy. However, there is one issue that I think is worth looking into.

On the map, you have shaded the countries that require a land visa but do not require an airside transit visa in light gray, while the countries that require an airside transit visa are shaded in a darker shade of gray. This is very tricky as the color code is a little hard to pick up due to the similarity in color between gray and this darker shade of gray. I was thinking that we can shade the countries that do not require an airside transit visa in yellow/orange/brown while the countries that do require an airside transit visa in red? Let me know your thoughts.

Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bs980 (talk • contribs) 19:09, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. We decided to stop using such bright colors as red as it was too aggressive for some readers. But I suppose we could try with a different shade of grey.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:23, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy Macedonia

Hi Twofortnights, that MFA website of theirs is never updated ever - it even falsely says Swedes require a visa.

This visa exemption is quite new from what I can gather - so why on Earth would Timatic add it if they weren't notified of it by their sources? André Devecserii (talk) 17:38, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Not sure, but it's not like there were never erroneous info on Timatic. At least I would expect Macedonia to somewhere publish this news as what would be the point of such a visa policy if it was never publicized at all? Also regarding Swedes it shows the same info as for other Schengen countries, that the visa is not required so I am not sure where you got that info from. The website that keeps switching between English and Macedonian is tiresome though. I will send them an email but until then I think this should be considered dubious.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:03, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Twofortnights I'm glad if they reply - already tried many times (not on this issue). Seems they corrected their info on Sweden btw. Timatic also edited their info on the visa exemption, stating that Indians can strictly only come for tourism visa-free. André Devecserii (talk) 20:22, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's a bit complex as Macedonian embassy in India has no website and their inbox is full while India has no embassy in Macedonia and Ministries in general are not so quick to reply but we'll see.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:37, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Animation

Hi. What you think about gif-animation?--Norvikk (talk) 21:14, 27 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of the Russian Federation
  Russia
  Visa free access
Visa policy of New Zealand from 1978 to the present
  New Zealand
  Visa free access
Awesome! Great job! We could even get some VP articles featured in not so distant future.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:15, 27 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The UK. draft - http://gifmaker.me/PlayGIFAnimation.php?folder=2017072721eZ6hVMdjjajjrtva4TRaFc&file=output_2M79Q1.gif

Good, just pay attention to dates when territories and countries that didn't exist appear, namely Hong Kong, Macau, East Timor, Montenegro and South Sudan.--Twofortnights (talk) 09:18, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
HK is a part of the UK until 1997. Correct? http://gifmaker.me/PlayGIFAnimation.php?folder=2017072723TVnEkUhO3bX2STQoFOTMBy&file=output_qOZFow.gif
Montenegro I will add, thanks. S.Sudan is correct.
I plan to make a gif for period from 1972 to the present. I need your help with some questions. 1. Bahamas for 1972-map will be a red (part of the UK). 2. All Associated States - St Lucia (until 1979) will be green, not red. 3. Timor. Independent from 1974. Annexation by Indonesia 1975-2002. What color to use for this period?
Step will be 2 sec. as on other gifs. --Norvikk (talk) 10:26, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is a map for 1960. [85] Do you agree? Any comments, suggestions. Thanks --Norvikk (talk) 16:06, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's good, check this map [86] there are a few countries that declared independence after 1960 but I am not sure what their status was before that.--Twofortnights (talk) 16:14, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Good map, thanks. The gif will be from 1960 a to the present. Because of the unclear situation with Germany. UK-Germany agreement on 1960. Travel using the internal document and the British Travel Card. [87] I can't figure out what was before 1960. --Norvikk (talk) 16:41, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I added the gif. Thanks! Norvikk (talk) 21:00, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

File:Brazilian passport.jpg listed for discussion

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Visa requirements for Singaporean citizens

Heya, I saw that you've added a new category (teal colour) for Electronic Travel Authorisations/eVisas on the visa requirements map of Visa requirements for Singaporean citizens. While this is a good change, I reckon it would also make sense to add the US ESTA to this category and colour the US teal.

The American and Australian ETAs are almost completely identical in terms of the application process and the fee charged, so it makes no sense to separate the two. It would streamline things to have them both in the same category. Besides, lumping in the US ESTA with the rest of the visa-free policies is a bit confusing because it implies that you can stroll into the US without any prior paperwork, which is the case for many of the visa-free countries, but not the US. The US may call it a 'visa waiver' but it is more accurately an ETA that needs to be paid for. I would thus shift the ESTA to the teal-coloured category, and perhaps colour Canada teal as well. Tiger7253 (talk) 16:44, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Regarding the US, it's not green only because it's called a visa waiver, it's green because in fact you can "stroll into the US without any prior paperwork" - just overland. If you are flying in you need to send some data through the electronic system for travel authorization, but all overland arrivals are completely visa-free. The same goes for Canada. Needless to say many visa waiver countries have the same requirements, the only difference is that the data and payment are done by an airline. Also regarding Australia, not only that there is no such possibility, it also has two systems, one is called eVisitor, which Australia defended in front of the European Commission as a non-visa system, and the ETA, which logically is then to be considered an electronic visa system. Cheers.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:50, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thailand

This was the quickest way to try to get you to stop reversing correction of the visa on arrival information for Thailand.

The visa incentive program includes two countries (Fiji and Papua New Guinea) that are not eligible for visa on arrival. See http://www.consular.go.th/main/th/customize/62281-Summary-of-Countries-and-Territories-entitled-for.html for the current correct information. If you still do not believe me, see this photo: http://cdn.airportthai.co.th/uploads/profiles/0000000001/filemanager/images/15%281%29.jpg

The countries eligible for VOA have not changed in many years.

Hi, the photo and that summary were both created before 30 December 2016. Fiji and PNG citizens are eligible for visa on arrival in Thailand since 30 December 2016 - [88]. Thanks.--Twofortnights (talk) 14:32, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand

--- Dear Twofortnights: On signing in tonight, I saw a message from April alerting me that you reverted a posting I made on Passport validity changing NZ passport validity from 5 to 10 year. Unfortunately you have done this in error, perhaps because you relied on current information for new passport holders, rather than researching what in fact is a transition.

Please see

in which I show an actual 5-year passport that remains currently valid. Then please go to the www.nzherald.co.nz article that explains that effective Nov 30, 2015 NZ went back to a 10-year, having used the five year after the 9-11 attacks. This means that New Zealanders will have valid 5-year passports until Nov 29, 2020 and if any bureaucrat relies on your information, they would be misinformed. Feel free to note in your calendar to come back on Nov 30, 2020 to remove the 5-year information.ClassicalScholar 10:22, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Thanks Roy Shrejmänn! Do you have something particular on your mind? The article seems to be up to date, but there is always room for improvement. Currently there is a plan to update all articles including that one regarding the map in order to add a new category of countries that allow both visa on arrival and eVisa. --Twofortnights (talk) 13:45, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Hey, Yes i would like to change and add to the page more details, i mean more specific details such us the Territories and Islands , South and north poles etc. etc.

what do you think?

Thant sounds great! Looking forward to it!--Twofortnights (talk) 15:31, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

about visa requirement of Hong Kong passport

https://www.immigration.go.ug/content/visas-and-passes The visa free list from the Uganda immigration, Hong Kong is not included which is not consistent with visa requirement of Hong Kong citizen. Please check and reply.182.239.83.201 (talk) 11:57, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! It seems you are right. Thanks.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:31, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

about visa requirement of hong kong passport

Please check that in the visa requirement of macau passport shows visa required in Georgia, it should be the same as visa requirement of hong kong passport. The IATA shows both passports can apply that country evisa.

Hong Kong citizens not having visa free access to Yemen, the hk immd information is seriously outdated.

Other user shows that the azerbaijan allows hong kong and macau citizen as chinese citizens to apply for AZAN e visa

Another question is in zambia e visa http://evisa.zambiaimmigration.gov.zm/ choose macau, it shows exempted from visa. It only shows eVisa status in visa requirements of macau passport page. Please reply. Thanks.182.239.83.116 (talk) 23:52, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Edit summaries

I fielded a question in the IRC channel from an IP user who thought you were reverting their edits without examining the references. Maybe it's the same person who asked the question immediately above. I can't evaluate the contents of these disputed edits, but let me ask two things: 1) use edit summaries to explain why you're reverting when a plausible content dispute exists and 2) respond to their query about checking the refs. Thanks. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 03:45, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I mostly undo edits which are notorious long term vandalism. For example users keep changing data on national passports and how many countries it is good for visa-free travel to, especially in big countries which have not so powerful passports, and they very well know what they are doing so I don't feel like I need to spend even more of my time on them by pretending to explain to them that their edits were inconsistent with references when they know this already - [89]. However due to extremely large volume of vandalism in visa related articles mistakes do happen. All it takes is for the user to contact me and we'll sort it out. Regarding the HK and Macau passports, I can only say that it was all so very clearly explained by an expert user on the talk page Talk:Visa_requirements_for_Chinese_citizens_of_Macau under Regarding recent edits by the IP address. The fact that someone won't accept that HK and Macau have autonomy in terms of international agreements in the visa sphere is beyond anything I can do. Thanks!--Twofortnights (talk) 09:11, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirements for Indian citizens

Thank you for the information. AbhishekShenoy (talk) 16:36, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Serbian MFA not yet finalised start of Visa free regime for India,Iran

Hi , Just want to let you know that as confirmed from Serbia embassy in India, there has been no official date decided for the visa-free regime for Indians to be activated. Also, it not true that after 8th day of it being published into "Official Gazette of RS", the visa free regime will be starting. As a comparison, please view the below link for abolition of visas for Malaysians for Serbia. Although it was published in official Gazette in October itself, it was entered into force from 1st December 2015 only.

http://www.mfa.gov.rs/en/consular-affairs/entry-serbia/news-for-entry-to-serbia/15801-the-decision-on-visa-exemption-for-the-nationals-of-malaysia AbhishekShenoy (talk) 11:37, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. The decision on Malaysia itself probably set out the application date "between 1 December 2016 and 31 December 2017.". The decision on India does not have such additional restrictions. I am sure the Serbian MFA would have informed me of this. But if you have any doubts you may contact them yourself. As it is right now there is nothing to imply a delayed implementation date.--Twofortnights (talk) 11:47, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tajik visa policy map

Hi Twofortnights, I'm not sure how to insert the yellow legend text without it crossing the map. Could you please modify it as you deem suitable? Thanks André Devecserii (talk) 21:05, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Visa policy of Sri Lanka

I am new here. First of all, I have to thank you for your countless contributions here especially to Visa-related articles. You are Awesome! I wanted to request you to please modify the map of Sri Lanka's visa policy and shade Pakistan as it is eligible for an ETA. Albert Dawkins (talk) 17:34, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to clear a confusion here. Sri Lanka canceled Visa on Arrival for Pakistanis in 2014, this does not mean that it canceled ETA online. An ETA still can be obtained prior to departure (It has to be obtained to land in Sri Lanka). Albert Dawkins (talk) 17:36, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thanks, we will then need to create a new category on the map, countries eligible for ETA but not for VOA.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:52, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, please. Countries eligible for ETA online, not for ETA on arrival. Albert Dawkins (talk) 15:35, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I traveled to Sri Lanka myself. The only requirement is obtaining ETA online, and we will be provided Entry and Visa on Arrival after we land. Albert Dawkins (talk) 15:53, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Difference: Other nationalities don't need to apply for ETA online. They can obtain the ETA on arrival, and then they will get the Visa on Arrival. Albert Dawkins (talk) 15:54, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

4 visa articles

Hi. I see the problem.

Articles about visa policy of Vatican, Andorra, Monaco and San Marino are redirected on article about visa policy of the EU. Any information on visa policy of these countries is absent in this article. There is no information about open borders which documents regulate open borders.

As I understand, Monaco can't conclude visa the agreement. The visa policy of Monaco is completely regulated by the legislation of France. I can be mistaken here. This assumption.
San Marino and Vatican can sign visa agreements. Between San Marino and China there is visa an agreement. Russia and Vatican have signed the agreement. I assume, there are also other agreements. Information on it is absent. The lack of four visa articles is omission.

I won't be able to write these articles. My knowledge of English is not sufficient for text. I beg you to pay attention to it. You may be able to fix it.

What do you think? --Norvikk (talk) 20:18, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Look at this. [90] San Marino has a lot of agreements on the abolition of visas for all types of passports. This information isn't in the encyclopedia. It's wrong. I can try to make the table of agreements of San Marino if it is appropriate..Norvikk (talk) 20:35, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

HI, Yeah, I think we can have these articles explaining that these countries don't maintain border control but that they do sign bilateral visa agreements. We already have an article on Andorra but it has no information on bilateral agreements. For Monaco it would be interesting to write about whether France is in charge of immigration control of incoming vessels as well. I will assist you with any language issues of course.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:17, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, We have the article about Andorra. I couldn't find reliable information. It's harder than I thought. I can't do it now. Maybe in the future.--Norvikk (talk) 20:52, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I asked one of the editors to made the three articles. He knows French and Italian. It will be easier for him. I hope he will find time for it.--Norvikk (talk) 14:37, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Table

Hi. What of options is more preferable to countries with both e-visa and visa on arrival? --Norvikk (talk) 21:25, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Maybe go straight to

--Twofortnights (talk) 21:29, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent!--Norvikk (talk) 22:08, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Look at the new proportions of the table. [91]

Old 19%

New 22%

This changes the proportions of all columns of the table. I don't see a problem. What do you think 19vs22?--Norvikk (talk) 23:07, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

To me it looks very similar. But if it improves the way the table is showing on your device then go ahead.--Twofortnights (talk) 09:26, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It looks different. [92]. To me 22%- version looks better. I use it format. Thanks. --Norvikk (talk) 13:23, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Mali

Hi Twofortnights, Thank you for the update of the 'Visa policy of Mali' page. I am aware that the official website (http://diplomatie.ml/?page_id=5522) states that nationals of Andorra and Monaco are exempted from the visa requirements prior to visit Mali, but considering that the copyright year being 2015, is it not possible that the information contained within is not up-to-date? I have contacted Mali representation in India (http://www.maliembassy.co.in/index.php/en/2016-02-24-09-01-34/visa) and yet to receive the response. I have tried looking for some pertinent information with regards to the list, but the website only provides update on the recent visa requirements abolition between Mali and Indonesia.

Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlies280590 (talk • contribs) 20:10, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, it is of course also possible that the Mali website is not up to date but I suggest we wait for the official clarification. Regards, --Twofortnights (talk) 20:17, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, thank you! I am also aware that Timatic might experience a glitch on their system, such as the case with Indian nationals traveling to Macedonia. There was a period of moment that Timatic enlisted India as recipient country of Macedonia's visa-free facility but I believe it has been corrected not long after. Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlies280590 (talk • contribs) 20:21, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Twofortnights, I have received a response from Mali Embassy in India. It is stated here that Monaco nationals are required visa in advance prior to traveling to Mali. I also specifically asked for Andorra but received no response for it. I believe that the website (http://diplomatie.ml/?page_id=5522) is not afterall up-to-date. Regards --Charlies280590 (talk) 15:23, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As per WP:VERIFY they really need to publish this information somewhere. Can you ask them to place a visa regime document on their website? This would solve all our issues. They seem to be willing and cooperative. Thanks!--Twofortnights (talk) 21:22, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Twofortnights:, Timatic is a published source, and border control at Bamako airport indicated that it's the more accurate list by far - what they told me only slightly differed from Timatic. André Devecserii (talk) 22:04, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Twofortnights:, I have sent an e-mail with regards to updating the website, hopefully it is done so in the near future. @André Devecserii:, I noticed that you have updated the page for Mali visa policy, since the United Arab Emirates is on the Timatic list, should it not be included on the page as well? Regards --Charlies280590 (talk) 05:03, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Charlies280590 Thanks! The problem is that Timatic has recently had some very serious mistakes. Not sure why this is happening, could be the new management, not sure. That is why we should be sure. André Devecserii we also can't use your personal conversation in Bamako. There are many reasons why, not just the Wiki policy on having published verifiable sources, there is also the possibility the officer you spoke to does not have full knowledge, that you misheard him, that something changed since then etc.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:14, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Twofortnights:, fair enough. I was connected to the director though and he spoke slowly and clearly (we spoke French).
And yes, I've noticed some grave errors, but my contact has discouraged me from reporting them unless I have it black on white that it is indeed an error (with e-mails from the proper authorities as proof). This is because of their great workload André Devecserii (talk) 13:02, 13 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have now updated the article to reflect conflicting sources.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:21, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Error in Map for Visa policy for Azerbaijan

Hi There,

I was taking a look at the map for visa policy of Azerbaijan, and while Singaporeans have visa on arrival access, Singapore is shaded in brown (E Visa only). It should be shaded in blue, indicating a visa on arrival at all airports.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bs980 (talk • contribs) 15:42, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I have now updated the map.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:23, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Fourweeks (Twofortnights). Please update the Sri Lanka Visa Policy too to reflect that Pakistani citizens can obtain visa on arrival provided they have applied for ETA online before. Albert Dawkins (talk) 20:16, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

Thank you Norvikk!--Twofortnights (talk) 14:35, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirements for Pakistani

Hi! I'm working on updating the page. FYI, the guy before me added certain language that I had edited out. Almost all visa Wiki links have such data. I do not see why this page should be excluded.

By the way, I have added visa required for Vietnam. However, last I checked Phuc Quoc was part of Vietnam not mars. Thanks! Faraz (talk) 19:47, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the above, it clearly states 'Notes excluding departure fees. What I have added is entirely relevant to the subject in question. Faraz (talk) 19:51, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I moved my reply to the article talk page.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:55, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bermuda

Hi, According Timatic visa policy differs from information in Wikipedia. I changed the map. Visa-free countries and visa free if arriving from or transiting through the United Kingdom (yellow). This is visa-free regime with the conditions. What you think we can trust Timatic in this case? --Norvikk (talk) 20:10, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I guess it should be right. Is the official version different?--Twofortnights (talk) 23:15, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I can’t find a modern government visa information.--Norvikk (talk) 07:23, 30 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirements for Chinese citizens of Hong Kong

Hi,

I noticed that you have undone my revision on the visa on arrival for Bolivia and anything else.

I have double checked the reference and confirmed that a 90 day visa on arrival could be obtained for Bolivia, regardless of where the passport holders reside.

It also applies to the Macau passport holder

Please check first before undoing revisions.

Thanks! Trevoronc (talk) 03:47, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kyrgyzstan

Hi! This is the answer from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Kyrgyzstan to request. (not mine). On the second page there is an unofficial English translation. [93] I think we can add e-visa for Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan. --Norvikk (talk) 20:39, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Norvikk! That is completely crazy, such persons would have troubles boarding a flight etc. But yeah, now I see Kyrgyzstan has taken such a position (probably stemming from complete lack of understanding of the status of HK and Macau) so I agree with you to add eVisa for HK, Macau and Taiwan.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:32, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I asked a question to the support service on the website of e-visa, but they ignored my request. Someone made a request to the Ministry. There are no doubts, it is their position. I made the change. --Norvikk (talk) 22:53, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

American Samoa

Hello, Twofortnights, American Samoa changed its visa policy last month. I searched online and found three pages with the alleged new list of waiver countries: 1 (US Visa Waiver Program, minus Ireland, plus Canada), 2 (US VWP minus Greece, Hungary and Ireland, plus Canada), 3 (US VWP exactly). First I combined the lists (US VWP plus Canada) and added the result to the Wikipedia article, with the three lists as references, but later I decided to contact the Immigration Office of American Samoa, which is granting the "OK to board" ([email protected]), to confirm the information. They sent me the actual memorandum from the Attorney General of American Samoa implementing the recent changes. The list on the memorandum matches the list on 1 (US VWP minus Ireland, plus Canada). After I received this response, I removed Ireland from the Wikipedia article. However, later you added it back. I just checked the sources again, and now 2 has US VWP exactly, 3 no longer exists, while 1 remains the same. I don't know what to conclude, but I prefer to rely on the memorandum from the Attorney General. What do you think? Heitordp (talk) 00:40, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Seems like a curious case indeed. What is probably causing it is the fact that they either confuse Ireland and Iceland and just removed one thinking it was a typo, or they saw the full name of the UK and thought they shouldn't have Ireland twice. Sounds ridiculous but probably the knowledge about Ireland, Iceland and Northern Ireland in American Samoa isn't much different to knowledge about Samoa, Western Samoa and American Samoa in Ireland.
Anyway, since the memorandum was not published we have to rely on what is on their website. Since those differ as well, it is the best to note that in the article like at Visa_policies_of_British_Overseas_Territories#Turks_and_Caicos_Islands by saying "According to another government source citizens of Ireland can also arrive without a visa.". Timatic by the way lists Ireland but does not list any eastern EU member states, it's based on the old list obviously, but it's interesting because it included Ireland.--Twofortnights (talk) 09:26, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Paraguay confusion

Hi, on the pages Visa policy of Paraguay and Visa requirements for Singaporean citizens, a user has added an edit that claims Singaporeans have access to Paraguay visa-free. I've tried to corroborate the sources, but there doesn't seem to be anything? Tiger7253 (talk) 01:21, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It could be fake?--Twofortnights (talk) 17:59, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not fake at all- according to the IATA database (found here http://cms.olympicair.com/timatic/webdocsI/spdbmainv.html) Singaporeans holding ordinary passports now have visa free access to Paraguay for up to 30 days


Hi Twofortnights, a user has added an edit saying that Monaco citizens have access to Paraguay. I didn't find any government source for that but it clearly mentions it from when I looked it up on Timatic/IATA. Is the Timatic site mixed up? DZaidan55 (talk) 16:46, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Paraguay Visa policy

Hi Twofortnights-

Singapore needs to be shaded in blue on the map. Also, I highly recommend that we use a different color for visa free countries vs visa on arrival countries as opposed to a darker shade of blue for visa free countries and a lighter shade of blue for visa on arrival countries to avoid confusion. Maybe green for visa free countries and yellow/blue for visa on arrival countries? Let me know what you think

Kind Regards,

Please take a look at the message directly above. There seem to be some doubts regarding visa policy of Paraguay for Singaporean citizens.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:45, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Multiple Barnstar

Thank you Norvikk for your kind words! It means a lot to see that my work is appreciated. Thank you again --Twofortnights (talk) 21:21, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Albania Temporary Waiver Confusion

Hi! In Visa policy of Albania article, I checked all the countries that are under the temporary visa waiver and it was explained that the waiver was from 31 May or 10 June 2017 until 15 November 2017. But according to the visa requirements for those countries, I discovered that the visa waiver only lasts until 1 November 2017. I found different sources in Visa policy of Albania and Bahrain, Belarus, Oman, Qatar, Russia and Saudi Arabia Visa requirements pages. One explains that the waiver lasts until 1 November 2017 while the other mentions that the waiver is still in progress and will end 15 November 2017.(http://www.punetejashtme.gov.al/files/userfiles/Regjimi_i_vizave_per_te_huajt_26.01.2017.pdf) (http://www.punetejashtme.gov.al/files/userfiles/VISA_REGIME_FOR_FOREIGN_CITIZENS_27.10.2017.pdf)

To avoid confusion, which one is correct and more accurate? RoboTitan28 (talk) 16:20, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, it seems it is 15 November - [94] at least for Russia, Saudi Arabia, Belarus, Georgia, Qatar, Oman.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:43, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tanzania map

Hi! In the map for Visa policy of Tanzania, for some reasons, Sweden is not shaded as countries eligible for visa on arrival. Also, according to Timatic (IATA), Georgian citizens must obtain a visa prior to arrival. Moroccan citizens, on the other hand, are now eligible to obtain a visa upon arrival. It is recommended that the map gets updated with the said information. Thanks! RoboTitan28 (talk) 01:56, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Updated. Thanks.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:13, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Palau

Hi Twofortnights! On the visa policy map, I don't know why you have shaded Bangladesh and Myanmar as countries eligible for visa on arrival. I checked the Timatic website and visas are still required in advance for nationals of Bangladesh and Myanmar. If you were correct, could you provide a source that mentions that Palau introduced visa on arrival for those countries? Thanks! Dunkroll 6 (talk) 17:36, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dunkroll 6! You are correct. I have uploaded an updated file now.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:25, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

British National (Overseas) visa requirement

One of the IP user insisted that timatic is the most accurate source over the Government official sites. Please explain it is not always the case. Please also help to revert the article to the correct one. It is considered as vandalism. That IP is used to be banned in other language version of wiki. It is not expected to keep wrong information here.Jekeme (talk) 23:42, 14 November 2017 (UTC)a[reply]

Visa policy of China

I have requested a protection of the page and was granted. The user involved, Nixiao1983, refused to engage in consensus building and claimed that Taiwan as a part of China. A relevant discussion has been opened on the NPOV noticeboard here, and I would like to hear your thoughts on the subject. Meanwhile you are more than welcome to leave thoughts on the talk page of Visa policy of China (the user involved has refused to do so thus far).C-GAUN (talk) 13:38, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

British citizen visa requirement

In the British Citizen visa requirements, someone edit something with government source. For Zimbabwe as it is Cat B countries, only eligible for visa on arrival. The Qatar visa waiver applies to British citizen, also Rwanda visa on arrival countries can choose evisa pay online. If you were correct, could you provide a explanation for this revert? Thanks!Jekeme (talk) 02:13, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

British citizen visa requirement

In the British Citizen visa requirements, someone edit something with government source. For Zimbabwe as it is Cat B countries, only eligible for visa on arrival. The Qatar visa waiver applies to British citizen, also Rwanda visa on arrival countries can choose evisa pay online. If you were correct, could you provide a explanation for this revert? Thanks!Jekeme (talk) 02:15, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. For Zimbabwe all Cat B countries are also eligible for an eVisa. Qatar for some reason as the UAE called it VoA so that's why. As for Rwanda, it's optional between VoA and eVisa.--Twofortnights (talk) 12:41, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Armenia

According to the website (http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/248829/Armenia_to_waive_visa_requirements_for_Indian_citizens), Armenia announced that visa on arrival would be extended for Indian citizens but I don't know if they have ratified it yet. It seems that holders of all passports from India are eligible.

Hi. Thanks. It seems the decision may have been made on November 16 then but we need to keep following this to see when will it become effective.--Twofortnights (talk) 12:42, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. VOA and eVisa for Indian citizens are available from 22 November 2017. [95]
MFA of Armenia [96] - “Citizens of the selected country holding ORDINARY passports are ELIGIBLE to obtain the visa upon arrival in Armenia (at the border) or apply for E-VISA.”

The decision has come into force. Norvikk (talk) 13:26, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Thanks!--Twofortnights (talk) 13:28, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

eVisa Egypt

Hi. Look at this. I think we can make changes. Norvikk (talk) 14:18, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

[97] eVisa

Hi Norvikk Great but are you sure that the egyptvisa.com is the official one? There is also the https://visa2egypt.gov.eg/ --Twofortnights (talk) 14:58, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Another question, is Egypt now optional eVisa and VoA for those 41 countries or is it mandatory to obtain an eVisa? Also there is an old problem that Timatic lists so many other countries as VoA eligible.--Twofortnights (talk) 15:02, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure. I think your edits are correct. Thanks. Norvikk (talk) 17:05, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Visa policy of Iran

Hi! In the article, I remember that you mentioned that Egypt and Lebanon were visa exempt according to news reports. However, Timatic now seems to have updated saying that Egypt and Lebanon are now visa exempt. Egypt (20 days) and Lebanon (30 days). I'm confused if Timatic accidently added Egypt and Lebanon to visa exemption. RoboTitan28 (talk) 11:50, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for this update. It wasn't there a few days ago when I checked. I guess they were conducting a regular update of the Iran page. The problem is that Iran doesn't publish its visa policy. But yes the article can be updated now. Cheers. --Twofortnights (talk) 13:58, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, Please stop removing the updated information from this page. I will revert your edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moon hun ming (talk • contribs) 06:13, 8 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2018

May your world be filled with warmth and good cheer this Holy season, and throughout the year.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! --Norvikk (talk) 11:23, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Norvikk! I wish you all the very best in 2018, may you have a joyous Christmas and a Happy New Year! I wish you many new visa-free destinations for your passport in the next year!--Twofortnights (talk) 12:27, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! --Norvikk (talk) 17:39, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gambia

Hi. I made changes in the Visa article on the basis of the website of the Immigration Department of Gambia. [98] I thought it was a reliable source. But many countries were not on the list. Now I can't open the page. If you can not open the site too, you can see a copy. [99] --Norvikk (talk) 11:46, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I can't open the page, there is an error reported. Gambia is one of the worst countries in this regard. I think only Malawi, Senegal, Tanzania, Bangladesh and Egypt are a match.--Twofortnights (talk) 12:18, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I wrote to the service Timatic. Hope they will clarify the situation. --Norvikk (talk) 23:11, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks!--Twofortnights (talk) 23:35, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy new year

Happy new year Twofortnights, have a great one! André Devecserii (talk) 09:31, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you dear André, I wish you all the best in 2018!--Twofortnights (talk) 11:18, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Updates 2018

--Norvikk (talk) 21:31, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done with text for Rwanda, Dominican Republic and Benin.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:11, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Benin

It's called Break logic.
Visa free for passports of Macao and Hong Kong

Stalemate. --Norvikk (talk) 01:29, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is no reliable source regarding Benin on Macao and HK. We can have a note like we had for Iran saying "According to some sources" but not in the main table for sure.--Twofortnights (talk) 12:10, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! The Department of Immigration could have made a mistake, since HK and Macao don't have diplomatic/service passports. We should probably refer to both Timatic and the eVisa Portal. --RoboTitan28 (talk) 03:15, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Well we are not allowed to guess. If the page says one thing we can't write something else based on a probability that they've made a mistake.--Twofortnights (talk) 12:35, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gambia Visa policy

The map does not shade Visa exempted Malaysia, Australia and Singapore in the right colors — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bs980 (talk • contribs) 07:33, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Algeria

Hi! In Visa policy of Algeria, someone has shaded Syria and Yemen on the map as visa exempt, which does not make sense at all. RoboTitan28 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:30, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I will undo that edit.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:53, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy history

I've just stumbled across the Irish statute books and found the visa policy of Ireland all the way back to the 1930s. It's interesting because Polish citizens were actually banned from transiting Ireland as late as 1992/3. Would this be of sufficient interest for inclusion? st170e 21:41, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, yeah that would be very interesting. There is a complete lack of historical info in that article.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:01, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. I'll get on it. st170e 22:49, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

transcluded sections

Hi.
I used simple sentences to write. I hope you understand the meaning. Translator distorts some things.
I propose to make changes to the editing of articles. Let's use ‘transcluded section’ more often. Now we use ‘transcluded section‘ for the statistics. I propose to extend this to other multiple values.

India. eVisa: was-24 airports; now-25 airports. More than 100 articles need to be corrected information.
China. Transit: Changed conditions 72->144 hours. Added a new entry points. 50 articles need to be corrected information.
Russia. Regional eVisa. 18 articles.
I think these changes are not final. In the future this will change again and again.

The adjustment of articles will take many hours of our time.

I created a page where collected these changes. Template:Transcluded sections for the visa articles I hope I have not violated the rules of Wikipedia. It will be enough to make the change there and they will be reflected automatically in all articles. It will save a huge array of time.

For example [103] [104]

--Norvikk (talk) 18:18, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Great idea! And it's working, so I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be used. It will make editing much faster for those ever changing categories.--Twofortnights (talk) 12:38, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In the future we could hopefully make the entire database centralized, meaning that all VR articles would pull info from one central VP table. Then when one country adopts a new visa policy we don't need to go through 100 articles to change it, but just change it in one table, and this would reflect in VR articles which would be connected to that one central table. For example Benin VP table would have all nationalities listed and then next to them it would have been Visa required and we would change it to eVisa. VR articles would be connected to show green visa not required, red visa required etc. based on what they see in that main and only table.--Twofortnights (talk) 12:40, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure it will work as you are testing it for India. What if for example India changes it just for the British, Canadian and Brazilian citizens. You have to edit those three articles. What I had in mind is one visa policy database table per country from which all visa requirement articles pull information from. And then based on what the database table says for British, Canadian or Brazilian the VR shows it as green, red, teal etc. And if there are any changes, it's done only in that one table.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:57, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This would be great, but I don't know how to do it. --Norvikk (talk) 19:48, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

Thank you Norvikk! Much appreciated!--Twofortnights (talk) 17:02, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

British passport

Please be noted that all information come from reliable sources. You have to explain why revert all edits without any reason.Cceobus (talk) 09:25, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have made only one edit to that article recently and it was definitely not involving any reverts.--Twofortnights (talk) 16:44, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Henley Index

Hi. Did you see the designer of the index? Now we can see what countries they consider in the rating.

https://www.henleypassportindex.com Improve My Passport - Select a Passport - under a cover See more - View list

I see two problems:

1. Selective calculation.

Not the objective index. Probably, policy has won against honesty.

2. Criteria.

--Norvikk (talk) 19:45, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's interesting. Still better than Arton who makes a list based on the HDI index of the UN among other things, but still so many mistakes on Henley. What should we do? Is there a way to contact them?--Twofortnights (talk) 20:25, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have asked about these mistakes the Russian office of Henley. There is no answer yet. I have written to you that you knew current information. I don't think that we can influence them.--Norvikk (talk) 21:27, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Answer: «Здравствуйте! Спасибо за внимание к нашему индексу и желание его улучшить. Мы обязательно проверим и довнесем данные. Индекс будет обновляться в течение года регулярно, потому что данные меняются очень часто.» --Norvikk (talk) 18:02, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you don't mind me weighing in here. If they're going to update the index throughout the year, would it be erroneous to suggest that, for example, the German passport is the most powerful passport in 2018? Should it not state, rather, 'As of January 2018, the German passport was ranked the highest on Henley...' or something like that? st170e 19:30, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, yes I think so, but don't most articles already use that language "As of January 2018"?--Twofortnights (talk) 21:26, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Forgive me, I was looking at the wrong thing. st170e 00:56, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Update on 16 Jan. Russia. before 110 -> after 113 --Norvikk (talk) 22:34, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Update on 22 May. They continue to ignore Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Wallis and Futuna. --Norvikk (talk) 20:47, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if any French territories should be counted separately as they don't have independent visa policies, but if they count one then they should count them all.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:35, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I understand it is a commercial organization. It have no obligations. It has own methodology. Greenland, the Faroe Islands, Puerto Rico in the list. This means all French territories and Tokelau can be in the list too.--Norvikk (talk) 09:15, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Brazil 2

Hi, I noticed that you recently changed the "note 3" on the visa policy of Brazil, from 90/180 days to 3/6 months. It's true that the agreement between Brazil and the EU specifies 3/6 months, but the "note 3" also applies to some other countries on the list, not just the EU, and all those other agreements specify 90/180 days. In any case, the official visa policy of Brazil clearly says 90/180 days for all of these countries, including the EU. Sometimes what gets implemented is slightly different from the agreement, for example the agreement between Brazil and Belarus says 90 days per year, but Brazil decided not to impose the yearly limitation. In the article, I think that it's better to list the visa policy that is actually implemented by the destination country than the text of the agreement. Heitordp (talk) 23:40, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Heitordp. Yes I changed that because the Schengen Area which adopted the 90 days in preceding 180 days rule as a general rule, still applies the old 3 months during a 6 months period following the date of first entry rule where the bilateral agreements saying that were signed. Namely such agreements are still in force with Antigua and Barbuda, The Bahamas, Barbados, Brazil, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Mauritius and Seychelles. As you can see on the European Commission website - https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/borders-and-visas/border-crossing_en:
A clearer definition of short stay of non-EU citizens in the Schengen area ("90 days in any 180 days period") is applicable from 18 October 2013. Since then a new method of calculation of short stays applies.
This change does not apply to the visa waiver agreements concluded between the EU and Antigua and Barbuda, The Bahamas, Barbados, Brazil, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Mauritius, and Seychelles, with respect to which the old definition of the preceding ("3 months during a 6 months period following the date of first entry") continues to apply.
Now I understand the info sheet of the Brazilian Government does not reflect this, but I would also say that the info sheet does not take precedence over bilateral agreements ratified by the Parliament. Moreover, the info sheet under " Legal Basis : " does not list any bilateral agreements but is based solely on the general acts. Unless of course one of those decrees says that Brazil implements more generous rules than what the bilateral agreements prescribe.--Twofortnights (talk) 00:05, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OK, we can keep the note saying 3/6 months for the EU. However, the agreements between Brazil and Albania, Dominica, Georgia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Nicaragua, Seychelles, Switzerland and Ukraine all specify 90/180 days. In the list in the article, these countries were using the same note as the EU, so now they should have a different note saying 90/180 days. Heitordp (talk) 15:42, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Travel advice

As per Visa requirements for Canadian citizens, should we roll out the 'government advises against all travel' to all articles or remove it from the Canadian article? I would say it violates WP:TRAVEL but I'd argue against that because it effectively limits the consular assistance the government is willing to provide citizens in that country (which is certainly the case for the British situation). st170e 15:09, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I would say remove travel warnings, unless it's a travel ban. South Korean Government for example bans its citizens from visiting certain countries. The US recently imposed something similar regarding visits to North Korea. Australia also has a policy that means a person visiting certain areas without approval is subject to prosecution. However simple travel advise against all travel and such should be removed IMO.--Twofortnights (talk) 15:12, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Somalia

Hi. I suggest using two templates [105] and [106] for different types of tables. If they make changes, we don't have to re-edit all the articles. they can change the number of airports. --Norvikk (talk) 22:17, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Ok, thanks, great idea!--Twofortnights (talk) 22:19, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For this type Somalia. VOA [107] and for this Somalia. VOA/2 [108]

VOA/3 for Australia, Bahrain, Canada, Kuwait, Monaco, New Zealand, Oman, Qatar, San Marino, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland, United States, United Arab Emirates or an EEA Member State
VOA and VOA/2 for all others

Information sources of Timatic

Hi Twofortnights, do you happen to know who Timatic's source of information in Albania is?

The problem is, my IATA contact suddenly stopped replying to my last few well-founded review requests, despite the ones before that leading to corrections.

On 26 January, after I contacted the Albanian MFA, they updated the list of nationals whose ID cards constitute a passport exemption.

However, Timatic still uses a list which they claim to be based on what the border police at Tirana airport uses.

As I'm soon going to Albania by air with a group of friends of different nationalities, I would really like to get in touch with whoever supplies info to Timatic directly, as I doubt that the lists are meant to be different. Rather I think there's been poor communication between the local police and the MFA.

To be exact, the MFA says Bosnian and Croatian IDs are accepted, and the MFA told me the Irish passport card is as well.

Meanwhile, Timatic doesn't list Bosnia, Croatia and Ireland, but does state American, Australian, Canadian and New Zealander IDs are accepted. American ones have never been listed by the MFA at least for the past year, and the other three were removed from the MFA list after I informed the MFA that they don't actually issue national ID cards. The Albanian embassy in Canada used to claim the Canadian citizenship card is accepted, but Canada was also removed by the MFA.

So do you know by any chance whom to contact? André Devecserii (talk) 21:02, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am not sure really. But perhaps you should try contacting the [email protected] instead of your contact.--Twofortnights (talk) 09:43, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Twofortnights, I used to send requests to the main address in the beginning, but was eventually assigned the sourcing manager as a dedicated contact, and was told only to send requests to him.
They now made an update regarding Gibraltar I requested a month ago (though he didn't notify me as usual - not that it matters that much)
Going to try getting the flow back with a few major review requests (the Macedonian visa policy contains one certain error, and I believe it needs a complete review, which is why I've messaged the MFA), and then try tackling the Albanian issue. André Devecserii (talk) 20:03, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I've noticed they included Georgia in Turkmenistan page as a visa-free country. It is almost 100% an error.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:11, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Twofortnights I agree, but am not going to message him about it without solid proof of it (an e-mail from the authorities inside Turkmenistan). Once got "told off" by him for that.
He finally replied to a request from mid-January btw, regarding Irish passport cards and Albanian ID cards now being valid for Bosnia. So my next priority is the Macedonian visa regime, which looks like an utter mess in Timatic atm. I told him about a clearly obvious error (proven by the MFA website), and let him know I've messaged the Macedonian MFA asking for a complete review. When I did the same regarding Serbia, it gave real results. André Devecserii (talk) 14:43, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Twofortnights, I mustered up the courage to ask IATA about Turkmenistan. He wrote that their Turkmen sources re-confirmed that Georgians are visa-exempt, but only if entering by air. André Devecserii (talk) 13:52, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
André Devecserii interesting, there is literally not a single other source to confirm this including [109]. Norvikk, is there anything at all regarding this on Russian language pages?--Twofortnights (talk) 17:16, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy in Russia.[110] Общая информация о правилах получения визы в Туркменистан. Для оформления визы по прибытию в аэропорт города Ашхабада необходимо предоставить заграничный паспорт, а также оригинал или ксерокопию приглашения от юридического или физического лица, оформленного в установленном порядке и согласованного с Государственной службой Туркменистана по регистрации иностранных граждан. Norvikk (talk) 17:38, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's the general pre-approved visa pick-up. But Timatic claims that there is a special visa policy for Georgian citizens and that they do not require a visa when arriving by air.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:51, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The websites of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Embassy in Georgia do not contain visa information! Only the consular manual. Turkmenistan is a closed country. I think this is another mistake of Timatics. I made a request yesterday, but the chance of a response is minimal. I asked about statistics earlier, but no one answered. Norvikk (talk) 19:24, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Norvikk, did you e-mail [email protected]? And did you attach substantial evidence pointing towards it being an error? If so they should reply, but like I said, I was informed that the Turkmens had re-confirmed the visa exemption, and that no airline has complained so far André Devecserii (talk) 23:38, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia-Serbia

Hi Twofortnights, I am writing regarding Georgia-Serbia visa free agreement. As it written here ► link The Foreign Minister of Serbia Ivica Dacic announced that the agreement would come into effect before parliament’s completion of certain administrative procedures.--Ⴂ. ႡႠႪႠႾႠႻႤ★ 07:55, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

OK, we'll follow since no date has been provided.--Twofortnights (talk) 11:13, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
User:Giorgi Balakhadze according to [111] the unilateral exemption is in force.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:55, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirements for algerian citizens

Please stop deleting right informations and putting erong information ! Algerian citizens need to apply for e-visa for turkey ! Dengel91 (talk) 20:09, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

UAE - Kazakhstan

Hi. Visa agreement between the countries was signed in 2010. This agreement on diplomatic passports. It has been changed twice. Service and ordinary passports have been added in 2017. Changes for ordinary passports have come into force in March 2018. I don't know why Timatic considers that it is a visa on arrival. [112]
"Граждане государства одной Стороны - владельцы паспортов, указанных в пункте 2 настоящей статьи, за исключением сотрудников дипломатических представительств и консульских учреждений, находящихся на территории государства другой Стороны, вправе без визы въезжать и выезжать с территории государства другой Стороны, пересекать ее и пребывать там на срок, не превышающий 30 (тридцать) дней с даты въезда, через пропускные пункты, открытые для международного сообщения".

I think we have to return former information. --Norvikk (talk) 20:17, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. User:André Devecserii could you inform the IATA source that the info on UAE is likely wrong regarding Kazakhstan? Even in general I am not sure how the differentiation is made between VoA and visa-free for UAE when it's de facto the same thing.--Twofortnights (talk) 15:45, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Twofortnights, too little substance to justify a review request according to IATA's standards. I also find the UAE immigration department too hard to contact (or else I would check with them), and besides, the difference between visa-free and VOA has little practical meaning at the end of the day during check-in, except in those cases where VOA is subject to conditions, which it isn't here. André Devecserii (talk) 23:34, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi André Devecserii, yes, but Kazakhstan published the text of the agreement and apparently it says that there is a visa-free regime. Regarding VoA there are different conditions regarding extension even though it's a similar thing on arrival - [113].--Twofortnights (talk) 15:31, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Twofortnights I see. Tell you what, I'll keep this issue in mind. André Devecserii (talk) 09:46, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stats

Countries have slowly started publishing visitor statistics for 2017. So far I've found Georgia, Cyprus, Seychelles, Iceland, Japan (partial), Taiwan, Maldives, Mauritius, Vietnam, South Korea, Thailand, Fiji, Antigua and Barbuda, French Polynesia, Netherlands, Jamaica, Hong Kong, Serbia, Slovenia, Grenada, Turkey, Bulgaria, Sri Lanka, Spain, Mexico (partial), New Zealand, Estonia, Czech Republic (partial), Chile, Australia, Singapore, Philippines, Malaysia, Colombia (partial), Macao, Bermuda. Hope more countries will follow soon. A few rather big countries haven't published 2016 reports tough, China, France, Greece to name a few.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:38, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Freedom

Hi, could you please look at this page [114]. What's the right option? For St. Kitts and Nevis or St. Lucia? Thanks! --Norvikk (talk) 15:16, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well we use blue in EU and GCC articles so I guess that one if it's really freedom of movement like in those two examples.--Twofortnights (talk) 16:13, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Disclaimer

Hi, I consider that we should create the Visa Disclaimer Template and add it to the top part of each visa article.

“The information provided in the article is not intended to be binding, and visa information must be verified with a travel agent or embassy representative before travel arrangements are made.”

Many people use articles as a reference book. Sometimes authoritative sources provide opposite information. It creates a confusion and disputes. We can't ignore any options. Who knows what information is correct? Especially for some countries in Asia and Africa, which do not respond to requests or not provide information on government websites. I think this template will remind readers of their responsibility for a choice of information. What you think? --Norvikk (talk) 00:12, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Good idea, but I am not sure if it's in line with Wikipedia:Manual of Style? They could say it's against WP:NOTGUIDE, we need to check with one of the admins working on style issues.--Twofortnights (talk) 11:25, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I can't hold a conversation with administrators in English. I can try to create the template if it violates the rules then administrators can always delete it.--Norvikk (talk) 22:17, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Please review WP:No disclaimers. --Izno (talk) 00:55, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I agree there izno reason to carry such a disclaimer. EEng 03:27, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft

No. First, Wikipedia takes pains to say that it's not a reliable source. The template essentially says that the article is not a reliable source. (Which alert readers already know.) If certain pages had this template (or something like it), would there be a risk that readers that infer that those pages without it (or something like it) were reliable? Secondly, the matter of, er, bondage. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of a nation can be said to publish binding information about which classes of person (nationality, intended length of stay, purpose of stay, etc) require which kind of visa, if any; but it should be pretty obvious to anyone who understands both (i) the way the world works and (ii) the word "binding" that, as long as they are sane, the editors of no mere encyclopedia can publish information about visa requirements with any intention that the information should be binding. -- Hoary (talk) 09:07, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Thank you for yours opinions. --Norvikk (talk) 10:45, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear situations

Here I propose to list all countries where visa policies remain unclear.--Twofortnights (talk) 14:58, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Twofortnights, tried explaining the Iranian system to my IATA contact, but nothing's been done about it.
There's no e-visa; instead you make an application on the e-visa site and present a printed submission confirmation at the VOA desk
Regarding Angola, it's a pre-approved VOA. Tajikistan officially has the Iranian system, but actual practice is, at the moment, to issue VOAs even if you didn't apply on the e-visa site André Devecserii (talk) 18:11, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks André Devecserii! And what is the practice of Iran for people who do not apply through the website but arrive without a confirmation like before?--Twofortnights (talk) 19:01, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Twofortnights Not sure, but I read about one person who was about to be sent back but was let in after hotel staff convinced the visa officers André Devecserii (talk) 15:18, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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In the article Visa requirements for Dominican Republic citizens

Hi Twofortnights, does not this count as a verifiable source for you? https://noticiassin.com/2018/03/dominicanos-podran-viajar-sin-visa-a-nicaragua/ Oli (talk) 20:52, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. The link is broken, it doesn't lead to an article.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:46, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What about this one?

https://www.listindiario.com/la-republica/2018/04/07/509597/no-tiene-visa-estos-son-los-paises-donde-los-dominicanos-pueden-viajar-solo-con-su-pasaporte?platform=hootsuite Oli (talk) 20:52, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, this does not seem very reliable, it lists some of the countries where DR citizens need a visa as "no restriction destinations". Therefore it would be the best to have an official source, gob.ni, as a reference.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:11, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Abbreviations

Hi. I think we should use the full name of the countries. Not USA, UAE, UK, St. Lucia and other. The only exception is DR Congo. Do you agree? --Norvikk (talk) 12:32, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I guess, I only shortened UAE in that table because it stretched the frame too much.--Twofortnights (talk) 14:44, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's not the longest name. Precedent may be a problem in the future. It is possible to use compulsory transfer of a word on a following line where it is necessary. --Norvikk (talk) 19:13, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Democratic Republic of Congo
Central African Republic
Bosnia and Herzegovina
São Tomé and Príncipe
Saint Kitts and Nevis
United Arab Emirates
Antigua and Barbuda
Trinidad and Tobago

Visa requirements for Israeli citizens

Why did you cancel my edit? Wikiped201820 (talk) 23:44, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Because the link does not seem to mention a visa waiver for Israeli citizens as you claimed in your edit summary. It says "Nationals of Algeria, Angola, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Central African Rep., Chad, Comoros, Congo, Congo (Dem. Rep.), Cote d'Ivoire, Djibouti, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Haiti, Kenya, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Mali, Mauritania, Mauritius, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Niger, Nigeria, Rwanda, Sao Tome and Principe, Senegal, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Sudan, Swaziland, Tanzania, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Zambia and Zimbabwe for a maximum stay of 90 days. " - no mention of Israel. --Twofortnights (talk) 00:01, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look- Israel is mention in the 11th place in the tab Wikiped201820 (talk) 08:36, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Where exactly? Israel is not mentioned in the list, 11th country in the row is Congo.--Twofortnights (talk) 11:07, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.dei-benin.com/visa.phpWikiped201820 (talk) 14:03, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It says that Israeli citizens who are holders of diplomatic, official and service passports are exempt.--Twofortnights (talk) 14:59, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Uganda (Condition for Somalia)

Hi. I checked Timatic and it did not list Somalia as countries eligible for visa on arrival. Instead, it lists that holders of non-biometric passports from Somalia are refused admission and transit. Would biometric passport holders have to obtain a visa in advance? I'm a bit confused.--Dunkroll 6 (talk) 22:01, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. It is very difficult to ascertain visa policies of some countries. Please see above User_talk:Twofortnights#Unclear_situations for various such situations that me and other users have been collecting. You can add this one to the list.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:59, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirement for the Chinese citizens of Macau

Hello,Twofornights,I am a Chinese citizens of Macau,therefore,I offen check for the visa information of Macau SAR passport.But I have found some mistakes about the information that you have signed:

https://www.gov.mo/zh-hant/news/68530/

http://www.foreign.gov.bb/documents/foreign-policy/54-june-2012-visa-list-for-barbados/file

http://bbs.qoos.com/viewthread.php?tid=1749302&extra=&page=56

I hope that all the above information can help you,and Please modify it as soon as possible.I absolutely do not have the willingness to damage the authority of Wikipedia, and finally thank you for your reading, and I hope you work well.

If you read this message, please reply as soon as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincentkpopme (talk • contribs) 03:40, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also refer to the following website:https://test17089.wordpress.com/vincentkpopme (talk) 14:10, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. It seems Seychelles and Barbados should be changed. There is no reference to back up the claim on Equatorial Guinea and as for Qatar it's just a message board. --Twofortnights (talk) 09:28, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Twofortnights,I hope that all the above information can help you,By the way, the Chief Executive of Macao has granted all the necessary powers to the Chief of the Department of Administration and Justice to sign a mutual visa exemption agreement on behalf of the government of the Macao Special Administrative Region and the Republic of Kazakhstan,the visa policy of both parties will change in the future. http://bo.io.gov.mo/bo/i/2018/15/ordem59_cn.asp Thank you for your reading, and I hope you work well. —-Vincentkpopme (talk) 04:38, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WikiStat 2017

WikiStat 2017 visa policy articles

Hi! How are you? I think this info will be interesting for you. This is the wiki statistics for the visa policy articles in 2017. I used fuller data (with redirects).--Norvikk (talk) 21:06, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Most popular visa policy articles in 2017

The least popular:

The Overseas articles:

WikiStatistics 2017 without Redirects [138] Total: over 7,200,000 viewings

Most popular visa requirements articles in 2017
WikiStat 2017 visa requirements articles

The least popular:

WikiStatistics 2017 without Redirects [159] Total: over 16,300,000 viewings

Hi! Thanks! That is really great, motivation to keep perfecting these articles for sure. Maybe it's time to start a WikiProject as well.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:26, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The unexpected article

Hi, have you ever heard of this article? [160]

Huge surprise! 15,585 viewers in 2017, 162 place from 214 [161] 8,556 in 2018 Jan-Jun [162] --Norvikk (talk) 22:17, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wow interesting, I don't think I ever saw it? I guess it should be expanded to include both air crew and maritime crew as the rules are not the same, often the rules concern only specific companies even.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:28, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

changes as of July 1st

Dear Twofortnights,

Can you please make sure that as of tomorrow there are changes in the page of VISA REQUIREMENTS FOR CROATIAN CITIZENS regarding the UK, the Netherlands and Slovenia - freedom of movement full! Also, please put correct colors on the map. Thank you for your work!

MM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.53.46.104 (talk) 11:15, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Updates to the Visa policy of Armenia map

Tajikistan should be Visa Free (90 days), similar to the shades of Iran and Macao. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.43.141.100 (talk) 21:55, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Correcting Visa requirements for Lebanese citizens map

On that map Armenia's colour is visa-free, while on the section below it is stated that eVisa / Visa on arrival is required from Lebanese citizens.

Romania, Moldova and Colombia are listed as eVisa, but the links from the websites of the Ministries of Foreign Affairs of respective countries state, that Lebanese citizens are required to obtain a visa beforehand at embassies/consulates. [163] [164] [165].

Hi. Fixed the table.--Twofortnights (talk) 10:01, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Myanmar

Hello Twofortnights,Myanmar will grants free visa for some Asian citizens soon,Chinese is one of them,although they did not explicitly point out that the scope of visa exemption includes Hong Kong and Macao, the official website of the Myanmar government did not see that the e-visa policy implemented by the Burmese government did not include Hong Kong and Macao, but it was clearly stated on Wikipedia that Hong Kong and Macao were covered by the e-visa policy.On Wikipedia, all visa information about countries around the world is subject to IATA supervision and authority.,it means that Myanmar's e-visa policy is for Chinese citizens including Hong Kong and Macao people.Does this mean that the Myanmar government’s visa-free treatment for China also applies to Hong Kong and Macao?

Thanks for your reading,good luck with your work!

Please reply me as soon as possible.

https://evisa.moip.gov.mm/noticetotourists.aspx

vincentkpopme (talk) 11:45, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. It's hard to tell, we've seen Governments take different approaches regarding HK and Macao passports. Hopefully Myanmar Government will give an official explanation.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:28, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Unusual case about Visa policy of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

Hi! For Visa policy of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, there's something unusual about Taiwan [166] and Palestine [167]. It doesn't say that these territories are exempt but it still lists "Extension of stay possible for visitors eligible for the 1 month visa exemption." Timatic doesn't list them as exempt at all. I tried to check some other sources but I can't seem to find anything. Could those websites be glitched?--RoboTitan28 (talk) 23:29, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Usually there are glitches regarding such territories. When you have countries saying "citizens of all countries except x" don't need a visa, it doesn't necessarily mean that Palestinian passports are recognized, the same goes for "citizens of all countries can obtain visa on arrival". If they are not mentioned explicitly then it should say N/A.--Twofortnights (talk) 10:20, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Updates 2019

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without a title

Hi. Please pay attention. --109.252.45.173 (talk) 17:49, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1. Cambodia eVisa. [168] On the website there are no restrictions for citizens of 10 countries. Timatic says banning the issuance of electronic visas for Afghanistan, Algeria, Bangladesh and others. I think timatic is wrong. I filled out the form as a citizen of Afghanistan, reached the moment of payment. No problem. I asked on the website in the livechat section. - no answer. MFA - no info [169]. Unclear situation.

Hm. Another one I will now add to User_talk:Twofortnights#Unclear_situations.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:58, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2. VP of Russia. The page has limitations for editing without an account. The page hasn't been attacked in a long time. How to cancel this restriction?

I am not sure? It doesn't seem to be locked for editing, just some odd restriction in place but I am not sure how that works.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:58, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

3. Renaming. Page for citizens of St. Lucia is called VR for Saint Lucian citizens (not Saint Lucia citizens). I think that's right. I suggest renaming the page VR for Saint Kitts and Nevis citizens - VR for Kittitians and Nevisians citizens. The government website uses this name. [170] I can't rename this page without an account.

We can't say "Kittitians and Nevisians citizens" in English, it can be either "Kittitians and Nevisians" or "Saint Kitts and Nevis citizens". We can however say "Kittitian and Nevisian citizens" but in that case Saint is dropped. What do you think about that?--Twofortnights (talk) 20:58, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

4. VP St. Kitts and Nevis for Omani. Government site says visa free [171] Timatic says no. Unclear situation.

I will try to find out more.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:58, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

5. Template:Visa policy by country MERCOSUR and ASEAN are highlighted in a separate line. I think this is a huge mistake. These are economic and political associations. They do not have a common visa policy. Thus, many political, economic and customs unions can be distinguished. This is wrong. I can't edit this page without an account.

I agree, I don't understand why they were listed together.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:58, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

6. I can't do mass editing because almost every edit needs to be confirmed by typing in a spam code. It's tiring. Also I can't edit maps without an account. Sorry. And thanks for your help.

No problem, you are welcome!--Twofortnights (talk) 20:58, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

7. Rwanda. I'm guessing the news sites misrepresented the information. Perhaps the Cabinet has ratified the agreements. We know the three agreements (China, Mozambique -dip/ser, St.KittsNevis). This source only refers to diplomatic and service passports. [172] --109.252.43.147 (talk) 18:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I hope it will soon be on official pages or Timatic so that we can know for sure.--Twofortnights (talk) 13:43, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

8. Hi. Australia- eVisa. A few years ago we removed Australia as a country with a evisa from the all VR maps. This is the only country that is not marked on the maps. E-visa is not a simplification of the visa regime. E-visa is a simplification of the process of submission of documents for consideration of the request. Each country has its own set of documents, somewhere it is several forms, somewhere a huge package of documents and certificates. To obtain a visa-the Same package of documents in paper or electronic form, then there is the processing of the package and a decision - a paper sticker or an e-mail with a bar code. Just a simplification of the process, but the process is not changed in its essence. Australia requires a large package, but it's still an electronic visa. I believe Australia should be painted on the maps again as an e-visa country. Now Australia is the only country that has an electronic visa and is not painted on the VR maps. This is a distortion of the essence, if we note the e-visa on the maps, it should be done for all countries with e-Visa without exception. What you think? --109.252.43.147 (talk) 03:42, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think not because for other countries there is a clear distinction between visa and eVisa, it's never one and the same thing that can be obtained as a sticker in consulate or online. For Australia it's the only country that has the same visa, its 600 visitor visa, that can be obtained by submitting documents in person or electronically. But doesn't change the fact that it's not a different visa. Australian eVisa is called ETA (that's definite) and then there is some disagreement over the nature of its eVisitor system because by all means it is an eVisa system but both Australia and the EU officially claim it's not a visa at all.--Twofortnights (talk) 13:43, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

9. Hi. Senegal changed visa policy again. Visa free/voa. --109.252.43.147 (talk) 15:49, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have added them to the list of issues. They keep changing data on Timatic.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:50, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

10. Hi. Could you please change the table for the VR for Ukranian. Qatar 90/18 and Senegal voa 90. Changes are possible only with an account. Thanks. --109.252.45.190 (talk) 20:09, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, no problem.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:50, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

11. Hi. Could you please change tables for VR for Ukranian and VR for US. Swaziland –> Eswatini. Changes are possible only with an account. Thanks. --109.252.43.152 (talk) 15:24, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, done.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:42, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

12. Hi. I need an advice. Ethiopia eVisa/voa. Which option is preferable? --109.252.45.226 (talk) 21:12, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

13. I suggest adding the “Other " section to the table. For article Visa requirements for crew members. This article has its readers. 01.01.2018 - 27.11.2018 · 19 912 views. We must stop ignoring this article and include it in the register. What you think?--109.252.45.226 (talk) 21:35, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think either eVisa or VoA have preference but most African VR maps have not been updated to include this optional group so it's either or as you choose. As for the length of stay info I guess "up to 90 days" covers all those options?--Twofortnights (talk) 22:01, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I will change the articles - up to 90 days - for “Allowed stay”
Transcluded section for “Notes“. --109.252.45.226 (talk) 22:39, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For crew members, I think it should be added but not necessarily as another column. I would add it the same way as information on diplomatic or service passports - Visa_requirements_for_Russian_citizens#Non-ordinary_passports as another section.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:01, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I mixed up the template. Visa requirements Template - of course. --109.252.45.226 (talk) 22:31, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that makes sense to include it in the template under other.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:51, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

14. Hi. What type of passport is an emergency passport? Ordinary or service category passport? 109.252.44.236 (talk) 15:06, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It should be ordinary, it's the passport obtained in last minute situations for example British emergency passport or Dutch emegency passport. It's mostly similar with a travel document--Twofortnights (talk) 15:23, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I changed VP of UK. Please make changes if the information is not correct. Thank you very much. 109.252.44.236 (talk) 16:02, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Vatican passports are a bit different. They are usually issued to foreign nationals serving in Vatican and have a status of diplomatic passports - [173] or service passports for dicastery under-secretaries, members of the clergy or lay persons who regularly travel in the course of service - [174]. There is also a temporary service passport template [175] which is I guess the Vatican equivalent of emergency passport that they are referring to. Swiss guard members and such get regular passports as they are regular citizens - [176]. In general for the UK if you check for any nationality you will get "You won’t need a visa to come to the UK on official government business for your country if you’re a serving government minister.". So high ranking diplomats on official business do not require a visa. It does not apply to all diplomatic passport holders. But no Vatican passport holder requires a visa anyway - [177] The page you linked to is a web archive from 10 years ago.--Twofortnights (talk) 16:31, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you.109.252.44.236 (talk) 17:23, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15. Hi. I added Politics template to the visa articles. I am convinced that this is the right step. Visa policy is part of a foreign policy of a state. The template allows you to go directly to other articles about the policy. I add a foreign section to the templates if it is missing. The template complements a visa article. Thanks. --109.252.44.236 (talk) 19:16, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OK but make sure that those templates actually include links for visa policy articles. Thanks.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:56, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Cambodia

Hi dear buddy,

Cambodia gives e-Visa to Iranians. I have myself granted an e-Visa from Cambodia by this Iranian passport. Do not you want to see ya!?

Anyways, Iran is already in the e-Visa country lists on its e-Visa portal: https://www.evisa.gov.kh/

P.S. IATA states Iranians can grant a VOA and e-Visa: https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/KH-Cambodia-passport-visa-health-travel-document-requirements.htm Please follow the instruction and insert Iran there and see the result!

The other source Timatic website however shows contradiction which I do not care. IATA website has the superiority! P.S.S. It is no data about the exclusion of day trip to Cambodia by those other nationals. I did not find this tab even on Timatic so I made fundamental changes in the article of "Visa Policy of Cambodia".

Please write here before making new edits to at least the article of "Visa Requirements for Iranian Citizens" until we reach a solution, because I will revert the changes again. Regards Milad Mosapoor (talk) 14:47, 03 Nov 2018 (GMT)

No it doesn't, you are claiming your data is coming from IATA and this is the screenshot of IATA Timatic service info on Cambodia - https://i.imgur.com/TYnoAjW.jpg which clearly states that Iran is not eligible for eVisa and Iran is not listed among VoA eligible countries. You also don't seem to understand that Timatic is a web service of IATA, not "the other source" that you "do not care" about and to which you consider IATA to be " the superiority!". And no I do not wish to see your supposed eVisa, in fact I wish that you would read WP:NOR as it says - Do not add unsourced material from your personal experience, because that would make Wikipedia a primary source of that material.. That's a Wikipedia policy which is something that is a widely accepted standard that all editors should normally follow. If you reinsert false information to the article I will have to tag it as a disputed article containing original research.--Twofortnights (talk) 16:04, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

First, I have to revert the article "Visa Requirements for Iranian Citizens" since I wrote earlier "do not change that until we reach a solution".

Second, it is already mentioned that Iranians are both eligible for VOA and e-Visa in this link of IATA: https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/KH-Cambodia-passport-visa-health-travel-document-requirements.htm Please follow the instruction and insert Iran there and see the result! I have already made an easy photo for you here: http://uupload.ir/files/2qh_iata.jpg Regards Milad Mosapoor (talk) 16:33, 03 Nov 2018 (GMT)

Hi. OK as you wish, I will tag the article as disputed now, and the discussion may continue on the article talk page.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:11, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Visa policy of Uzbekistan

Hi! Uzbekistan from February 1, 2019 cancels visas for 45 countries. Also increases the list of 76 countries that can enter with an electronic visa. Could you add this to the article and the map? Thanks! Akhemen (talk) 11:48, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Working on it. Thanks for the info.--Twofortnights (talk) 00:38, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Angola, CAR, Chad, Congo, Congo DR, Equatorial Guinea, Burundi, São Tomé and Principe, Gabon, Eritrea, Djibouti, Mozambique, Malawi, Rwanda, Somali, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Tanzania, South Sudan, Sudan, Benin, Burkina Faso, Cape Verde, Gambia, Sierra Leone, Niger, Mauritania, Mali, Liberia, Togo, Ivory Coast, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Dominica, Taiwan, Palestine, Kosovo, Kiribati, Micronesia, Marshall Is., Nauru, Palau, Solomon Is., Samoa, Tuvalu, Tonga, Vanuatu

Djibouti visa policy

The visa on arrival is still available. The faq #21 of eVisa page is not correct. It's "as of" May 1, 2018.

Here is the picture of my visa on arrival. It's issued at the airport.

I just traveled to Djibouti 2 months ago and successfully applied the visa on arrival at the airport. Before I traveled, I had emailed to the Djibouti embassy in Japan and Djibouti Office of Tourism. Both confirmed visa on arrival was available. --Parinya71 (talk) 22:07, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I see but including this in the article would be a violation of the WP:NOR. The official source says that "no visas will be issued at the airport or any other border point as of May 1, 2018.". And we don't know why your visa was issued at the airport, maybe you have a diplomatic passport, maybe it was pre-arranged, maybe it was issued under a different set of rules, we simply don't know and have no way of verifying.--Twofortnights (talk) 00:16, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I just found a source from Djibouti Office of Tourism for your consideration. https://guide.visitdjibouti.dj/formalites-dentree/ --Parinya71 (talk) 11:42, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
File:Djibouti Visa on arrival page from Office of Tourism 1.jpg

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Visa Policy of China

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There is no visa-free access for Bangladeshi citizens to China. There are some false media reports but please check the website of the Chinese embassy in Dhaka for further information - [178]. The visa exemption applies only to holders of diplomatic and official passports. There is also a possibility to collect visas on arrival in urgent cases which is what the articles you linked to describe.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:57, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The website of the Chinese embassy in Bangladesh is outdated, as indicated by the issue dates of the embassy documents. You must be confused. Visa exemption and visa on arrival are two entirely different things. Regular or ordinary passport holders of Bangladesh do not get a visa exemption or "visa free access" when entering China. Instead they get a 30 day "port entry visa" or a visa on arrival issued at the Chinese port of entry after arriving in China. No prior Chinese visa is required before travelling to China. This is a recent development which occurred after the signing of a bilateral agreement between Bangladesh and China in October 2018. It came into force in November 2018. What makes you say "there are some false media reports?" Have you verified any of them? --Liberty Pedia (talk) 13:12, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Look, I am not going to debate your original research here. There have been no agreements on visa-free access to China that you mention, otherwise you would provide a valid official source to back it up. The only truth is that there is no visa-free or visa on arrival access for Bangladeshi citizens to China except for emergency visa on arrival which is issued to anyone anyway if the conditions are met. Emergency humanitarian visa on arrival is not the same thing as a common visa policy for all travelers. Whether Bangladeshi tabloids made huge headlines out of this is irrelevant, you need to do more research, past the headline, before including things to an encyclopedia. And yet you keep bizarrely adding Bangladesh to the list of countries with visa-free access to China - [179], while at the same time claiming here that "Regular or ordinary passport holders of Bangladesh do not get a visa exemption or "visa free access" when entering China.". So what is it? In your edit you say it's visa-free. In your comment you say that it isn't visa-free. And then you add a reference to "back it up" which if you read it says " “The law stipulates that foreigners who need to enter China urgently for humanitarian reasons, or who are invited to enter China for urgent business or rush repair work, or have other urgent needs, or who are organised to visit China as tourists through Chinese travel agencies, may apply for port visas with the visa-issuing authorities entrusted by the Ministry of Public Security at the ports approved to issue port visas by the state council,”". I will consider as of this post that you have been sufficiently informed about the poor understanding of things and I will consider any further reinstating of this false information as ill intended editing. Thank you.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:26, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Let me reiterate. Visa exemption and visa on arrival are two entirely different things. Regular or ordinary passport holders of Bangladesh do not get a visa exemption when entering China, instead they get a 30 day "port entry visa" or a visa on arrival issued at the Chinese port of entry after arriving in China. Unlike previously, no prior Chinese visa is required by Bangladeshis before flying or travelling to China nowadays, thanks to a bilateral agreement between the two nations. Perhaps this time you might get the point.
This is fiction not supported by any sources as of today.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:53, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
My edits do not mention visa exemptions for Bangladeshis. Instead they mention visa on arrival only. This is also backed up by proper references. You cannot just make offhand remarks and disregard bilateral agreements between Bangladesh and China because, according to you, they were supposedly reported by so called "tabloids" and not the regular press. Your attempts at discrediting my additions, edits and references simply reveal your ulterior motives. --Liberty Pedia (talk) 08:24, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You just said " My edits do not mention visa exemptions for Bangladeshis. ". Well I am sorry but this link proves that you are lying. You added Bangladesh to the list of visa-exempt nationalities. And above you also specifically say that "no prior Chinese visa is required by Bangladeshis before flying or travelling to China" while in this paragraph you say that your edits "mention visa on arrival only". From all this I understand you are just trying to troll and annoy.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:53, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I was made aware of this conflict via WP:RFPP. I've checked out many of Liberty Pedia's edits and have come to the conclusion that they are misinterpreting sources.

For example, this edit misrepresents the source text: Chen Wei said this through a statement issued on the port visa system. “The law stipulates that foreigners who need to enter China urgently for humanitarian reasons, or who are invited to enter China for urgent business or rush repair work, or have other urgent needs, or who are organised to visit China as tourists through Chinese travel agencies, may apply for port visas with the visa-issuing authorities entrusted by the Ministry of Public Security at the ports approved to issue port visas by the state council,” the statement says. “The duration of stay for port visas shall not exceed 30 days. Bangladeshi citizens who are qualified and able to provide relevant supporting documents can apply for port visas at relevant Chinese ports,” according to the statement. It does not follow from the source text that Visa on arrival for Bangladeshi citizens who visit for tourism, business, medical care or other humanitarian grounds, as the edit states. One point of misinterpretation is that all tourists qualify; in reality, only tourists through Chinese travel agencies qualify.

This edit also misrepresents the source text, which is as follows: On Nov 22, the embassy said in a statement that Bangladeshi citizens who are qualified and able to provide relevant supporting documents can apply for Chinese visa on arrival at its ports. It also laid out criteria for the visa on arrival at its ports that apply to foreigners, including Bangladeshis. The eligibility includes foreigners who need to enter China “urgently for humanitarian reasons, or who are invited to enter China for urgent business or rush repair work, or have other urgent needs, or who are organised to visit China as tourists by Chinese travel agencies”. It does not follow that Visa on arrival for Bangladeshi citizens who visit for tourism, business, medical care or other humanitarian grounds, as written in the edit.

While these sorts of edits may be initially unintentional, failure to rectify such behavior is considered disruptive editing and is grounds for sanction, such as a block. @Liberty Pedia: please consider this a formal warning to be more careful when using source material. Continued disruption through source misrepresentation could lead to a temporary block. Airplaneman ✈ 02:15, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Airplaneman: Thank you for your interest in this edit war! Unlike previously, no prior Chinese visa is required by Bangladeshis before flying or travelling to China nowadays, thanks to a bilateral agreement between the two nations. This is a recent development which occurred after the signing of the bilateral agreement between Bangladesh and China in October 2018. It came into force in November 2018 after both governments ratified it. My references clearly mention this (Ref 1 & Ref 2). Before November 2018, Bangladeshis had to obtain a visa before being allowed to fly or travel to China (Ref 3). But now all Bangladeshi passport holders get a Visa On Arrival at the Chinese port of entry – also known in China as a Port Entry Visa – without having to obtain a visa beforehand. The only supporting document required by Bangladeshis after arriving in China is the Invitation Letter from the Chinese company inviting the businessman or the Invitation Letter from the Chinese Tour Operator arranging the tour. Instead of issuing threats of permanent blocks or temporary blocks against me, if you had only checked the last disruptive edit of Twofortnights on the Wikipedia page "Visa requirements for Bangladeshi citizens," you would have noticed that the references are improperly formatted! Perhaps you can get Twofortnights to fix these issues instead of threatening me with blocks. Good day! --Liberty Pedia (talk) 11:10, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This is ridiculous. The source link you gave says "Wei said foreigners who need to enter China urgently for humanitarian reasons, or who are invited to enter the country for urgent business or other needs, or are set to visit China as tourists, facilitated by Chinese travel agencies, are eligible." and yet you still insist there is a VoA for "all Bangladeshi passport holders" which is a complete and obvious falsification. What's the point?--Twofortnights (talk) 18:29, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Liberty Pedia: Yes, I did check the three references you cited, and I also reviewed all of the edits in this conflict. Took me about an hour. My warning stands: continuing to misrepresent sources is considered disruptive editing, which will result in a block to prevent further damage to the encyclopedia. Airplaneman ✈ 21:59, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RFPP request for Visa requirements for Bangladeshi citizens

Hey Twofortnights, I've procedurally declined your page protection request. Page protection (we would need full protection in this case) is usually considered too heavy-handed if the conflict involves just two users. Full protection is generally reserved for disputes where three or more editors cannot agree. The edit-warring noticeboard might be a more appropriate venue for this kind of stuff in the future. That being said, there's no need to start all over again there. I'm just going to investigate this dispute now and see if there's any action I can take. Best, Airplaneman ✈ 01:43, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks Airplaneman. Please have a look at the recent history of Visa policy of China as well for further insight and the conversation right above. In couple of words the emergency visa issuance for humanitarian reasons is being confused with a full visa-free regime. I am aware of the titles in Bangladeshi press but even in those articles it's quite obvious there is no visa-free policy and that the emergency visa issuance seems to apply to most nationalities (and perhaps Bangladesh was restricted in some way before although it is difficult to confirm). There is no reference backing up any visa-free agreement between the two countries. A blurb of this policy "Visa can be issued on arrival for those who need to enter China urgently for humanitarian reasons or have other urgent needs. Relevant supporting documents must be provided." should be sufficient for the article Visa requirements for Bangladeshi citizens IMO.--Twofortnights (talk) 01:49, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I've taken a look and responded above. If I happen to not log in for a few days and there continues to be trouble, please take a look at WP:DDE.
On a separate note, I strongly encourage you to archive your talk page. It's a bit cumbersome to navigate at the moment due to its size. Best, Airplaneman ✈ 02:19, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for this proper response.--Twofortnights (talk) 02:49, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Azerbaijan and Visa requirements for Chinese citizen of Hong Kong’s photo problem

Azerbaijan let Hong Kong citizen have electronic visa, but your photo hasn’t updated please change Azerbaijan as light green 維多利亞-伊恩 (talk) 12:03, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Image from Singaporean passport

Hi there. Can you please provide a clear link to the image in this edit so I can check that it corresponds to a passport issued in Singapore? Thanks.--Jetstreamer Talk 15:14, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I already linked to it - [180] but if you can't open it that way just go to the image file and look under File history. The image clearly shows stamps on these two pages - [181]. In addition it is an own upload of a Singaporean user.--Twofortnights (talk) 12:23, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Enough for me, thanks.--Jetstreamer Talk 13:32, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please revert move from Visa requirements for Macedonian citizens to Visa requirements for North Macedonian citizens

Hello, please revert your move. The adjectival use, nationality and other topics will be debated in a proposed Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Macedonia)/2019 RFC. While officially the name of the state is changed, the official nationality is Macedonian / citizen of North Macedonia. Thanks in advance. --FlavrSavr (talk) 10:10, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Not sure I understand what you are saying and the policy seems to be still under development. Since the country recently changed names I think it only makes sense to call its citizens North Macedonian citizens, for example Visa requirements for North Korean citizens or Visa requirements for South African citizens. But since I am not an expert on this subject I will accept the other name you proposed and move the article to Visa requirements for citizens of North Macedonia.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:17, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Haitian passport

Haitian passport holders do not need visas to get into Hong Kong for 14 days[182]. Please carefully check the reference before removing what I added on the article of Visa requirements for Haitian citizens. Thanks. 2607:FEA8:BC9F:F4C8:A477:B976:E2A3:4728 (talk) 05:55, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Hong Kong needs to be added to a separate table like in other articles.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:26, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
A separate table has been made for Hong Kong. But why did you remove it instead? why didn't you create a separate table and put Hong Kong in it? Please respect other editors' effort. 2607:FEA8:BC9F:F4C8:A852:8E96:3A66:8E25 (talk) 04:23, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. And I guess I could ask the same questions.--Twofortnights (talk) 13:59, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Saudi Arabia

Dear User:Twofortnights, you undid my edit in Visa policy of Saudi Arabia without mentioned reasons. The new information is notable with a credible source, it is about a new special visa designated for events in Saudi Arabia. Please provide your reason for deleting the new edits so we can discuss more about it.

Thank you Jaseromer (talk)Jaseromer —Preceding undated comment added 15:42, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Jaseromer: - Hi. I already did, I said the information you are trying to add is a direct duplication of what we already have in the article under Visa_policy_of_Saudi_Arabia#Reform_plans where it says "On 2 March 2019, Saudi Arabia announced a new visa category that will be issued for foreign visitors to attend sport, entertainment and business events in the country.".--Twofortnights (talk) 17:43, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

visa requirements for Turkish citizens - Laos

hi, I don't know why you undid my edit. There is no visa on arrival for ordinary passport holders in Laos. Recently a diplomatic visa exemption agreement was signed for diplomatic passport holders but a visa is still required for ordinary passports. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Furkthevagabond (talk • contribs) 22:13, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Furkthevagabond . Because Turkish citizens are now eligible for visa on arrival - [183] That's a new policy since November. And in addition to that there is a visa-free agreement for diplomatic passport holders. --Twofortnights (talk) 22:32, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No we are not and you can't give an inaccurate news page as a reliable resource. I checked the Turkish foreign ministry's website and IATA and visa is required for ordinary passports. I also checked the Turkish news and the recent agreement is only for diplomatic passports. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Furkthevagabond (talk • contribs) 22:43, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So unless you can provide a reliable resource (and save me from 50 dollars as I will visit Laos soon) please edit the visa information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Furkthevagabond (talk • contribs) 22:47, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Furkthevagabond. I am so sorry that you consider Anadolu Agency, the main news agency of Turkey, to be unreliable. But by definition it is reliable so we will have to take their word over yours that the visa policy has been updated.--Twofortnights (talk) 18:51, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think you have no idea about press freedom in Turkey or the quality of it. I don't care if you re-edit it or not as it has no effect on my life but that visa information is incorrect and you obviously can't provide any reliable resource eg from an embassy or foreign ministry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Furkthevagabond (talk • contribs) 19:13, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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British passport

With regards to this edit, the new British Citizen passport has the same design as that of the BN(O) passport – their front covers are the exact same. st170e 18:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well I guess in that case that should be clearly stated. Something like Depicted BNO passport has identical design features as the new British citizen passport or something like that.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:17, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Considering the front covers are the same, I think the caption should be something like: British Citizen passport (March 2019 series) and British National (Overseas) passport. The only difference between the two passports is the citizenship category on the bio-data page, but the image doesn't show that. st170e 20:57, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that wording seems OK too.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:08, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy map of Brazil

Hi, I noticed that you uploaded a new version of the visa policy map of Brazil, and the only differences are Moldova and the shade of green. However, the visa waiver agreement with Moldova is still in the process of ratification with no expected date to take effect. Was your intention only to change the shade of green? If so, please mark Moldova as gray. Thanks. Heitordp (talk) 13:15, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Heitordp. Thanks for the heads up, I will change Moldova back to grey, my mistake.--Twofortnights (talk) 13:23, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Twofortnights

Twofortnights is to Wikipedia what Einstein is to Physics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.226.59.199 (talk) 18:13, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Incorrect colour scheme for the "Visa requirements for Singaporean citizens" map for Egypt

Hey @Twofortnights:, I hope you've been doing well. I just wish to bring your attention to the fact that on the "Visa requirements for Singaporean citizens" map, Egypt is coloured grey; however on IATA and the Wikipedia article on the visa policy of Egypt, both indicate that Singaporeans can receive a visa on arrival (hence it should be coloured light green). Seeing as you are the main maintainer of the visa maps, I came to you (I don't really know how to edit the maps myself yet).

Additionally, on the "Visa policy of Egypt" map, Malaysia is coloured pale green, but should be coloured green as its citizens do not need a visa to visit Egypt. You might also want to edit that map.

Cheers! JaventheAldericky (talk) 14:43, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @JaventheAlderick:! Thanks for pointing this out, I will look into it definitely.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:01, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

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Why did you remove ETIAS

Can you explain why did you remove ETIAS?

I think it's obvious but OK, you were adding links to a fraud website through references.--Twofortnights (talk) 07:08, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Sierra Leone

Hi. Please pay attention to the discrepancy between the info of IATA and the Public notice of Ministry of Internal Affairs. IATA might have misinterpreted "Commonwealth".
Commonwealth of Nations and Commonwealth of Independent State.

Could you please add Luxembourg on the map. Sorry, I can't help with a massive update.

Have a nice day. --83.220.239.143 (talk) 09:55, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. It seems like Timatic made a mistake indeed. I will go ahead and remove those countries from the main table and the map. No official website from Sierra Leone has been updated yet but in case they add those countries we will place them back.--Twofortnights (talk) 10:59, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirement for algerians citizens

Why do you keep reverting stuff like the passport covers Nasro19dz (talk) 23:34, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nasro19dz, Because the image you inserted is a drawing of a passport. You replaced an image of an actual passport with an artistic depiction of it which makes no sense. If we have the real passport image why would we use an artist's impression?--Twofortnights (talk) 09:23, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Saudi visa policy map is missing New Zealand!

Thanks for the changes, but you seem to have missed old NZ in the map.--Nay1989 (talk) 00:46, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You are right, thanks!--Twofortnights (talk) 08:59, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, good sir! I also urge you to remove Taiwan from the evisa/voa countries because it isn't on the list of eligible countries on visitsaudi.com or TIMATIC.--Nay1989 (talk) 15:56, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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About Visa requirements for Ecuadorian ctitzens

Dear Twofortnights: I am starting using Wikipedia and i want to get to know why did you delete Galápagos in Visa Requirements. As you put Puerto Rico in United States i put Galápagos in Ecuador. Greetings from Argentina. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alejitao123 (talk • contribs) 21:45, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thank you for pointing this out. I have now removed PR and USVI from the visa requirements for US citizens article.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:03, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of East Timor for Indonesian

Hi twofortnights,

Just to let you know that Indonesian passport holder can already enter East Timor without visa for 30 days. This changes has been in force since the end of September 2019. IATA record in this matter is outdated. So far there seems to be no official statement in English language from Easst timor authorities (maybe there is in Portugese or in Tetum, but I don't speak both languages), and their immigration office website is not updated very often, but this change in the visa regime has been confirmed by Indonesian immigration office in Kupang on their official twitter account (In Bahasa Indonesia, unfortunately) and also by a member of the Indonesian national Parliament Mr Fadli Zon in his official twitter. Can you please update the wiki page of Visa policy of East Timor and also Visa requirements for Indonesian citizens to reflect this change?

All the Best, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blasty3 (talk • contribs) 15:17, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

Thank you so much for your appreciation Ayeshrajans!--Twofortnights (talk) 20:58, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

eVisa eligibility of Hong Kong and Macau

The general rule of eVisa eligibility is the website only mention China, however it shows in IATA https://www.timaticweb.com/cgi-bin/tim_website_client.cgi?SpecData=1&VISA=&page=visa&NA=HK&AR=00&PASSTYPES=PASS&DE=GN&user=GF&subuser=GFB2C and https://www.timaticweb.com/cgi-bin/tim_website_client.cgi?SpecData=1&VISA=&page=visa&NA=MO&AR=00&PASSTYPES=PASS&DE=GN&user=GF&subuser=GFB2C https://www.timaticweb.com/cgi-bin/tim_website_client.cgi?SpecData=1&VISA=&page=visa&NA=TW&AR=00&PASSTYPES=PASS&DE=UZ&user=GF&subuser=GFB2C https://www.timaticweb.com/cgi-bin/tim_website_client.cgi?SpecData=1&VISA=&page=visa&NA=MO&AR=00&PASSTYPES=PASS&DE=UZ&user=GF&subuser=GFB2C which is also eligible for the two territories. Someone misunderstood the issue and try to vandalize the related page. Please look into the problem and reverted to a correct version.Shillart (talk) 11:10, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Visa requirements for Tunisian citizens 2019

Dear Twofortnights, you have now reverted my contributions twice in the above-mentioned article, and as an experienced wikiuser, you know better than anyone that this kind of behavior that doesn't include any explanation is to say the least annoying.[1]Servitas Vitae (talk) 14:30, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mouath14. I thought the reason was obvious, but here it goes. The source you link to doesn't back up the claim that Tunisian citizens do not require a visa for South Africa. It clearly says it is just an announcement and that "The date of implementation of this decision will be decided and communicated after the two countries have agreed on a date." (La date de mise en œuvre de cette décision sera décidée et communiquée après que les deux pays se seront mis d’accord sur une date). Hope you understand now.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:33, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the explanation, now i understand the reason behind your revert, however, would you state the same "reason" for the country of Equatorial Guinea ? Since the Tunisian Foreign Affairs already announced taking the necessary steps for allowing EG's citizens to enter the Republic of Tunisia "under the condition of reciprocity". Ministry's webpage in Arabic[2] Servitas Vitae (talk) 20:35, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
For as long as it's just an announcement it doesn't apply. Reliable sources should be checked regularly for both countries to see if the implementation has commenced.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:32, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ (in French) L’Afrique du Sud supprime le visa pour les Tunisiens
  2. ^ www.diplomatie.gov.tn

Taiwan visa policy for US passport holder

Since the page is for "Visa requirements for United States citizens", the reference should be based on either US or Taiwan governmental policy or website. From US Department of State website:( https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/Taiwan.html), you can clearly find Taiwan in "country information" and is not required for Visa. Thus, listing Taiwan in China visa tab is incorrect and has no supporting evidence or appropriate citation from either US or Taiwan government. I believe Taiwan should be removed from China's visa requirement tab. I understand you devoted a good amount effort in reviewing and maintaining all visa related pages and I really appreciate these efforts. I believe you will agree that all information provided on the this page for US passport holder should be based on US or corresponding government. This is the only way we can prevent misleading or false information disseminating to Wiki users. All the best — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auhiy1224 (talk • contribs) 22:49, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. There are 190+ articles in the series and the style is uniform. It has nothing to do with the US policy. Visa articles are not even attempting to determine the political status of Taiwan, I suggest focusing on this article - Political status of Taiwan for that purpose. Visa articles simply divide territories by objective criteria. So if a territory is widely regardes as disputed then this is how it is classified. This is no way suggests anything about the outcome of the political dispute, it merely stresses the fact that the status of a certain territory is disputed and that's all to it.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:20, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Twofortnights, Thank you for your response and explanation. I'm not try to discuss or determine the political status of Taiwan since there might be some very different perspectives. Actually, I understand why Taiwan was listed in "Territories or administrative subdivisions" because the undetermined political status. However, I think we should still better remove Taiwan from China tab or edit it since it says "Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan do count as third countries under the 72 and 144-hours visa-free visit transit policy." but US citizen do not required VISA to visit Taiwan and according to "Taiwan Transit Policy" (https://www.roc-taiwan.org/ph_en/post/2788.html), US passport holders do not required transit visa no matter the hours. Thus, the statement "Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan do count as third countries under the 72 and 144-hours visa-free visit transit policy." is incorrect and misleading since US passport holders do not require visa to visit Taiwan and also do not require transit visa regardless the hours. Hopefully, we can provide some practical and legit information to Wiki users whoever visit this page. Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auhiy1224 (talk • contribs) 04:41, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your point but still, a person might read that and decide to use the visa-free transit with a ticket to Taiwan via some city in PRC. What would happen is they wouldn't be able to do that and they wouldn't know because we had removed Taiwan from the policy note.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:43, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your explanation. Even though this might be an uncommon case but I respect your idea and appreciate your time for maintaining all visa pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auhiy1224 (talk • contribs) 04:59, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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"Recent changes" section on some Visa Requirements articles are excessively bloated - time for some standardisation?

Hey there Twofortnights, long time no talk. Hope you're doing well.

If you've kept up with my edits on Visa requirements for Singaporean citizens, you'll know that I occasionally trim the "recent changes" section by clearing out changes that took place more than two years ago. This prevents the section from getting excessively bloated and detracting from the main focus of these articles, which is the map and table.

I recently took a look at Visa requirements for Indian citizens, and it would seem as if the recent changes section in that article has ballooned beyond what is considered reasonable. The section takes up the entire screen and includes changes from as far back as 2013. I'm sure it's the same for a number of other visa req articles. Which necessitates the question: Should we mandate a set period of time for these changes to be displayed before they get removed to make way for more immediate changes? "Recent" is wholly subjective and is open to interpretation, so perhaps we could figure that out. Cheers! Regards, Tiger7253 (talk) 18:47, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tiger7253. Thanks, how are you? I think I would just change the section title to historical information or something like that. It's not just the recent changes that can be of interest to readers, but also a historical perspective.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:37, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

US B visa validity

Hi, I noticed that you changed the legend of the B visa validity map, but that doesn't seem right. Some countries marked in red, such as the Republic of the Congo and São Tomé and Príncipe, have a validity of 6 months. Are you also planning to change the map? Also note that some countries have multiple validities depending on the issuance fee or specific B visa type. I thought that it was better to show in the map the maximum validity available for the general B-1/B-2 type, for example in that case Cuba would be 6 months, and no country has less than 3 months. Do you prefer to show the minimum validity instead? Heitordp (talk) 22:23, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Heitordp. I was looking at the table that says DRC and PNG have visa validity of 1 month and Comoros of 2. I may have missed something?--Twofortnights (talk) 19:35, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Twofortnights. These countries have more than one validity, depending on the issuance fee. DRC has 1 month for $150, or 3 months for $250. PNG has 1 month with no fee, or 1 year for $163. Comoros has 2 months with no fee, or 1 year for $307. There are a few others like this, Malawi even has 3 validities. When nationals of these countries apply for a US visa, they can choose which validity they prefer and pay the corresponding fee (see [184], step 8). In the map, I propose the following alternatives:
1. Color each country based on the maximum validity available.
2. Color each country based on the minimum validity available.
3. Create a new color for countries with variable validity.
4. Color all countries with validity up to 1 year in the same color, which would cover all variable validities.
Which way do you prefer? Heitordp (talk) 22:29, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's interesting. Not sure how to go about this, but it should be noted somehow.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:39, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I added a color to mark the variable validity (option 3 above) and adjusted the map legend. Heitordp (talk) 05:52, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Visa policy of the Kingdom of the Netherlands in the Caribbean (on Venezuelans)

Hi there. I did some updates on the page regarding Venezuelan citizens who want to enter the Caribbean Netherlands. It must be understood that the visa requirement for Venezuelan citizens are temporary in response of the ongoing crisis and to control the influx of Venezuelans entering that country following the Venezuelan refugee crisis. Also, Venezuelans must apply that visa through VFS Global agency, not directly with the Dutch embassy according to the official government website. Thank you --cyrfaw (talk) 18:54, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy map

Just wanted to get in contact regarding how visa policy maps on Wikipedia are created? South Korea’s visa policy map is now outdated since it was their policy changed on the 13th of April. Any help would be more than appreciated. Ire96 (talk) 20:31, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Holiday?

Your 5 months absence is getting me worried. We need you here. Hope it is just a break and that you'll be back with renewed energy. JMK (talk) 22:16, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Claiming that he made the visa policy article of Mongolia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suzyeon (talk • contribs) 07:27, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mauritius passport

Good evening, I searched the owner of the file of the Mauritian passport. I would like to add this file (photo) to the next article: List of passports. If you're not the owner, I'll be glad if you'll be able to connect me with the owner. Adir David (talk) 07:01, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Request for review

Hello, @Twofortnights, I think that the changes you made to the visa policy of Azerbaijan with some countries are not correct because the countries you have added with free visas for Azerbaijan are located in the e-visa section, while the citizens of Azerbaijan can enter without visas in these countries, so it is a unilateral decision of these countries and not a bilateral agreement. There is also information on the website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Azerbaijan, but also on the pages of the corresponding Foreign Ministries of, for example, Montenegro and Bosnia and Herzegovina. Thank you Brizton (talk) 20:07, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Brizton. Thank you. The wording on the website of the Azerbaijan MFA is indeed unfortunate but I think they are trying to say for those countries, for example Montenegro and Bosnia and Herzegovina, that they unilaterally exempted citizens of Azerbaijan and that Azerbaijan reciprocated without a formal bilateral agreement. There are many other countries not requiring visas for Azerbaijan citizens but those are not listed on that page, it's just those countries where Azerbaijan decided to mirror the policy. In any case this is supported by IATA Timatic. If you look up the requirements for Montenegro citizens traveling to Azerbaijan it says under "Visa Exemptions" - "Nationals of Montenegro for a maximum stay of 90 days." and "Nationals of Bosnia and Herzegovina for a maximum stay of 90 days.". You can check here - [185] --Twofortnights (talk) 20:53, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Twofortnights, I checked the link, but unfortunately it can't be trusted because it remains unupdated like Henley Index Passport, Passportindex.org, www.emirates.com, which claim to receive accurate data from IATA, but if you look, they have many inaccuracies in their data. I have written to them several times to update the information, but I have not received much feedback from them. Regarding the visa policy of Azerbaijan, I can say that they are very rigid and they are not very open to canceling visas without any bilateral agreement at a high level. For example, also for Serbia and Albania, which had removed the visas for the citizens of Azerbaijan many years ago, only recently they removed the visas with these two countries. (And this only happened with a high-level lobbying). I have also checked the two websites of the foreign ministries of Montenegro and Bosnia and Herzegovina and both of them say that an online visa is required to enter Azerbaijan. Brizton (talk) 16:49, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Brizton. Thanks. I am not sure what are you referring to when you say Timatic IATA cannot be trusted because it is not updated? According to their page it says "We make on average around 70 updates per day in Timatic." (Source). I gave you the link through the Korean Air, because it's simpler to use, but it connects to the same IATA Timatic database, it even says © IATA at the bottom of the result page. I understand your analysis of the Azerbaijan visa policy, however we have the duty here to use only verifiable sources without original research. In reality you could be totally right, but also Azerbaijan may have changed their approach. In any case, their page and IATA suggest the same thing.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Similar case

Citizens of Saint Kitts and Nevis and citizens of Albania can move to each other without the need for a visa, for 90 days every 180 days. This was confirmed both by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Albania and the authorities of Saint Kitts and Nevis, as well as by travelers who have traveled to these countries, meanwhile on sites that provide information on travel and visa policies such as: emirates.com, koreanair.com, passportindex.org, it is said that in these countries you have to apply for an e-visa to enter!! What do you say to this case? Brizton. (talk) 17:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Brizton. Well, it depends. The "travelers who have traveled to these countries" - that is completely irrelevant as per both Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:No original research. As for Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Albania and the authorities of Saint Kitts and Nevis - did they say this over the phone or through email or is this published on their websites? If it's just someone claiming they received this information from them (but they could have made it up or Photoshopped the evidence) then it's not verifiable and we can't use it, but instead we have to rely on their websites, even if they haven't updated them. If they did update them, this takes precedence over any other source. Please note that when you refer to emirates.com, koreanair.com etc. it's not actually those websites or companies that provide the data. It's IATA that gets information from national governments whose visa policies are in question. They specifically state that on their page, that they do not rely on websites as they are known to contain inaccuracies and that national governments can only be held to account (airlines face fines when they transport passengers without visas) for the information they provide directly to IATA. Given the 70 updates per day, there is a likely situation with some countries that have poor online presence, that the information on their websites would be seriously outdated and that we would have to also mention other sources and explain the discrepancy. This usually applies to countries with very few international visitors that rarely update their web portals in general. This would not be applicable to Albania and Saint Kitts and Nevis. Both countries rely on tourism a lot, and generally provide accurate and up to date information on their websites. I would be surprised if they provided information over the phone and through email which was different to what they provide on their websites, unless it was a change which took place in the past few days. Albania also publishes its official journal Fletorja Zyrtare online where any bilateral agreements would be published. This is what I found - [186] --Twofortnights (talk) 20:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Grenada

Cristiano Toàn (talk) 00:18, 31 July 2024 (UTC) I have added some countries in Grenanda's visa free list because I have looked here: https://grenadaembassyusa.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Visa-Requirements-for-Grenada-final-UPDATED-April-2024-Approved1.pdf. Furthermore the United Kingdom should be listed separately because they already left the European Union[reply]

Hi Cristiano Toàn. Thanks. Please make sure to include the updated reference in the future because it seemed like you made edits without any source to back it up. I have now reinstated most of your additions, except for the UK which was already listed separately. I made it more prominent now.--Twofortnights (talk) 00:25, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirements for Albanian citizens

Hi, @Twofortnights, I made this change because the Albanian Ministry of Foreign Affairs made the latest updates and data on the movement of citizens dated 23.08.2024 and it is said that Albanian citizens must be provided with a visa to go to the state of Guyana. (https://punetejashtme.gov.al/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/1-Regjimi-i-visave-per-shtetasit-shqiptare-23.08.2024.pdf)

This has now entered into force because a decision was taken on 17.07.2024 by the Albanian government to suspend the agreement (https://www.kryeministria.al/newsroom/vendime-te-miratuara-ne-mbledhjen-e-keshillit- to-the-ministers-date-July-17-2024/).

A part of the article about the suspension of the agreement in the media (...The sudden decision, the Albanian Government suspends the agreement for visa-free travel with the South American country. All Albanian citizens who travel to the country of Guyana in South America, either with diplomatic passport, service or ordinary passport, must first be equipped with a visa, writes newsbomb.al.

For unknown reasons, the Council of Ministers has accepted the request of Minister Igli Hasani for the suspension of the agreement with the state of Guyana, for exemption from visa requirements. The decision entered into force immediately this Wednesday and was ordered to be published in the "Official Gazette", but as newsbomb.al reports, the reasons that pushed the head of Albanian diplomacy, Igli Hasani, to request the adoption of this measure are not known. ..).

Meanwhile, the source of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Guyana that you received is from last year, so it is not updated, because I also saw it before making the changes, but the information above verifies what I have changed. Brizton (talk) 23:15, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Brizton, that is very useful. Could you please update the article to include those specific new references which show that this was actually a new decision? Also we need to update the articles on Guyanese citizens as well as both visa policy articles. Thank you.--Twofortnights (talk) 01:06, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Visa requirements article ledes

Just a heads up–I noticed you rewrote the leading sentence of visa requirement articles to the format of Visa requirements for X are administrative entry restrictions by the authorities of other states that are imposed on Y. These sentences should be removed per MOS:REDUNDANCY and MOS:AVOIDBOLD. The lede does not need to be a definition, and in this case it should not. Northern Moonlight 02:41, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi User:Northern Moonlight, thank you for reaching. Where did you notice this? Are you talking about articles intro style that has been around for 10+ years in all articles in the visa requirements series?--Twofortnights (talk) 14:27, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where did you notice this?

Article history. See #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7. I can name more if you want.

that has been around for 10+ years

WP:BEENHERE: On Wikipedia, nothing is set in stone. If material is not suitable for Wikipedia according to the current standards, it will be deleted or corrected regardless of how old it is. Any text on any page is subject to change at any time, no matter how long it has been that way. If there is a good reason to remove long-standing text, the length of time it has been there should not be an obstacle.
Northern Moonlight 19:58, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Northern Moonlight. I was a bit confused with your wording that you noticed I rewrote something, I thought it was something recent, yet the links now show you are referring to edits from 2013. That was my point.
As you can see in those links, the first and third edit replaced an obviously inappropriate intro beginning with talk about Henley Passport Index which definitely cannot be a proper lede. The second and fourth edit introduced a lede where there was none at all. And so on, it's mostly the same, either there was no lede or there was a "According to Henley" and then an inline URL.
Feel free to suggest changes but we can't go back to pre 2013 article content, which was neither uniform in style nor appropriate from an Encyclopedic lede point of view.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mean you did rewrite those sentences, just a very long time ago. I don’t blame you for not remembering them. To be clear, I’m not asking you to remove them–I just want to give you a heads up before doing it myself so you won’t be surprised. Northern Moonlight 21:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you remove ledes without seeking consensus on the article talk pages first, that will be reported and reverted. I just want to give you a heads up before so you won’t be surprised.
First, please note that Wikipedia operates on the principle of Consensus. These ledes have been in place for over a decade and are part of a consistent style across a series of nearly 200 related articles. Significant changes to this established content should be discussed and agreed upon by the community, especially when they affect a large number of articles with a uniform style.
Furthermore, per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section, every article on Wikipedia is required to have a lead section that provides a concise overview of the article's topic. Removing or significantly altering these ledes without proper discussion disrupts the structure and readability of the articles.
Additionally, on Wikipedia, If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If there is no evidence of a real problem, and fixing the "problem" would not effectively improve Wikipedia, then don't waste time and energy (yours or anybody else's) trying to fix it. The current ledes appear to be functional, informative, and in line with Wikipedia's standards. Unilaterally removing them without a substantial reason goes against this reason, which discourages unnecessary changes to content that serves its purpose.
It's also worth noting that the content of these ledes from 10 years ago violated WP:ELNO and WP:ADS as they contained bare URLs that functioned as advertisements for a private company. The current ledes were part of a concerted effort to improve these articles and bring them in line with Wikipedia's policies. Removing them would undo this progress and potentially reintroduce content issues.
Finally, your actions could be considered WP:DE. While it's true that Wikipedia's content isn't set in stone, willfully removing well-established content without a clear consensus or compelling reason is not constructive and may be seen as disruptive editing or even WP:VD.
I therefore strongly encourage you to engage in discussion on the relevant talk pages before making further edits. This will ensure that any changes reflect the consensus of the community and maintain the integrity of the articles in line with Wikipedia rules.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That’s a lot of bad faith accusations here. I haven’t even touched any article and you immediately threw out WP:DE and WP:VD. I’ll remind you that accusing misconduct without evidence is the textbook definition of WP:ASPERSIONS. If you have actually read the policies you quoted, you would know that not even edit warring is considered vandalism. You immediately assumed the worst and decided to intimidate a fellow editor. I am here on your talk page discussing the change and you spent half a page accusing me of–and I’m not even making this up–not engaging in discussion. The long rant at the top of your talk page makes me think you own the visa articles (which you were warned before), but we’ll talk about that in another day.
You mass rewrote all the lede sentences, without prior discussion, and still managed to distance yourself from it (I thought it was something recent–in what world does “being old enough” mean “I didn’t rewrite it”?)

that will be reported and reverted

You already received two 3RR blocks before. If I were you, I would tread carefully and not revert before using the talk page.

a decade and are part of a consistent style across a series of nearly 200 related articles

How many of those rewrites are from you alone and decided by you? Can you point me to a discussion where we established using the “administrative” wording?

Furthermore... every article on Wikipedia is required to have a lead section that provides a concise overview of the article’s topic. Removing or significantly altering these ledes without proper discussion disrupts the structure and readability of the articles... Unilaterally removing them without a substantial reason goes against this reason, which discourages unnecessary changes to content that serves its purpose.

Good news! I am not removing them. I am rewriting them.

It’s also worth noting that the content of these ledes from 10 years ago

Where have I said I’m putting back the old lede?

The current ledes appear to be functional, informative, and in line with Wikipedia’s standards.

No it isn’t. This is literally in the first message I gave you. See MOS:REDUNDANCY:

Keep redundancy to a minimum in the first sentence. Use the first sentence of the article to provide relevant information that is not already given by the title of the article. The title need not appear verbatim in the lead if it is descriptive.
For example:

Iraq–Pakistan relations are the relations between Iraq and Pakistan.
Iraq and Pakistan established diplomatic relations in 1947.
Northern Moonlight 07:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Significant changes to this established content should be discussed and agreed upon by the community, especially when they affect a large number of articles with a uniform style.

I took a look at the all “administrative entry” changes of visa requirements. Out of the 206 changes, 156 are initialized by you and without a corresponding section on the talk page (see 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155). 18 edits were done by an account who is now blocked. Can you show me where you have built this consensus? Northern Moonlight 08:50, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You mention rewriting ledes rather than removing them, but it's important to remember that major changes to long-standing content—whether they are removals or rewrites—must be discussed with the community. Wikipedia operates on the principle of consensus, as noted in WP:CON. Changes impacting multiple articles and long-established content, especially across a series of articles with uniform style, should not be done unilaterally. The WP:BRD cycle also underscores this, with the emphasis on "Discuss."
While you state that you're not removing the ledes, rewriting them without prior discussion also constitutes a significant alteration. You should seek input from the community, especially when this involves 200+ articles, before proceeding with any changes. Failing to do so risks being seen as disruptive editing, particularly when consensus has not been sought or obtained.
Regarding your point about bad faith, this policy cautions against making accusations of bad faith without evidence, which I certainly aim to avoid. However, it is equally important to warn users proactively when there is a potential for disruption based on past behavior, and providing a heads-up about potential issues is acceptable and even encouraged. Your proposal to rewrite large portions of ledes that were developed over a decade ago warranted my response to ensure proper adherence to consensus-building.
Your reference to MOS is valid but should be applied carefully. The current ledes are in line with MOS, providing a succinct overview, and follow the guidance on being functional and informative. Ledes should not only avoid redundancy but also serve the purpose of introducing the article’s subject clearly and concisely. This has been achieved with the existing format, and any large-scale rewriting without clear reason and consensus would potentially disrupt readability and structure, which is why prior discussion is critical.
You brought up past 3RR blocks, but let's be clear: My actions, like any editor's, have to conform to Wikipedia policies, and I'm fully aware of WP:3RR and the importance of working collaboratively to avoid edit wars. My intention here is to prevent such situations by advocating for a discussion-driven approach, as I’ve always done. If you are proposing changes, I suggest opening a detailed discussion on the talk pages of the relevant articles before proceeding with edits.
Finally, regarding the claim that I "own" the articles—this is simply not the case. Wikipedia forbids editors from exerting ownership over any content on Wikipedia. My concern here is about preserving consistency, policy adherence, and the community-driven approach to editing that underpins Wikipedia. I have no desire to control these articles, only to ensure that changes are made appropriately, and I welcome collaborative input from others, including yourself.
I encourage you to start a Request for Comment (RfC) or open a more detailed discussion on the relevant talk pages. This would be the best path forward, allowing other editors to weigh in on the proposed changes and ensuring that whatever edits are made reflect a broader consensus.
Please keep in mind that we should all here to improve Wikipedia, and that process works best when we collaborate through respectful discussion and adhere to established guidelines. I look forward to seeing your contributions in that context.--Twofortnights (talk) 10:03, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why does this read like something written by ChatGPT?
Let me repeat my question, you said Significant changes to this established content should be discussed and agreed upon by the community, especially when they affect a large number of articles with a uniform style. And you made 158 unilateral changes without prior discussion. You mentioned long-standing content as if it were a result from a spontaneous trend instead of mostly just one person. Can you show me where you have built this consensus? Northern Moonlight 10:11, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your comment suggesting that my response "reads like something written by ChatGPT" is a form of casting aspersions. Accusations or insinuations about another editor's conduct, particularly without clear evidence, is disruptive and goes against Wikipedia's principles of collaborative editing. The WP:ASPERSIONS states it is unacceptable for an editor to routinely accuse others of misbehavior without reasonable cause in an attempt to besmirch their reputations. Concerns, if they cannot be resolved directly with the other users involved, should be brought up in the appropriate forums with evidence, if at all.. Engaging in good faith discussions is essential for maintaining the constructive atmosphere that Wikipedia relies on. Instead of making baseless claims, I would encourage you to focus on addressing the content and policy-based arguments presented, as this will lead to a more productive discussion. If you have any concerns about the validity of the arguments, please refer to the specific policies or guidelines that apply. This will help keep the conversation constructive and focused on improving the encyclopedia, rather than on personal accusations. If you disagree, I’m willing to discuss this and your accusation in an alternative dispute resolution channel. Until you do that, consider this conversation over.
You're absolutely correct that significant changes should be discussed with the community. The edits you're referring to were made over a decade ago as part of a broader effort to improve and standardize these articles. While there wasn't a formal RfC at the time, these changes have stood for years without significant objection, which could be seen as a form of implicit consensus.
Regarding the long-standing content, your assertion that it is the result of a single person's work is inaccurate. The content has evolved over time through contributions from multiple editors, and the current state reflects the collective consensus of the community.
Your insistence on discussing diffs from 10 years ago in accusatory manner is unproductive and time-consuming. If you believe these edits are outdated or incorrect, you should provide specific evidence to support your claims. Without concrete examples, you seem to be here merely to harass me. I can only repeat that as per WP:AINT if there is no evidence of a real problem, and fixing the "problem" would not effectively improve Wikipedia, then don't waste time and energy (yours or anybody else's) trying to fix it. I’d also like to highlight that Wikipedia is not a place for personal battles or grudges. Your approach, particularly with repeated questioning and insinuations, could be seen as verging on a battleground mentality. Per WP:BATTLEGROUND, Wikipedia discussions are meant to be collaborative, civil, and focused on content, not on pursuing personal conflicts. As the policy outlines Making personal battles out of Wikipedia discussions goes directly against our policies and goals.. Repeatedly challenging edits that have been long-established without substantive policy-based reasoning can create an unnecessarily adversarial atmosphere, which is counterproductive to the collaborative spirit Wikipedia strives for. Instead of casting aspersions or pursuing a confrontational tone, the proper path forward is to address content issues calmly and engage in polite, constructive discussion.
Going through my edits to bring up dozens of my edits from 10 years ago could be seen as hounding, as described in the WP:HOUNDING. Wikipedia defines hounding as the act done with an apparent aim of creating irritation, annoyance, or distress to the other editor. You have brought up many of my older edits without providing a clear policy-based reason for revisiting them, and this pattern of behavior—tracking and confronting me over edits made a decade ago—appears to align with the definition of hounding. This behavior is disruptive, not only to my ability to contribute constructively but to the collaborative environment Wikipedia strives to maintain. Hounding is not tolerated on Wikipedia because it disrupts the editing environment and can become a serious issue if done without constructive intent. The policy emphasizes that even if individual edits are not inherently disruptive, following another user around, especially with confrontational or tendentious behavior, can become problematic if it serves no constructive purpose. I urge you to focus on content improvements in line with Wikipedia's policies rather than continuing this personal focus on my past edits. If you believe there are legitimate content issues, discussing them in good faith on the relevant article talk pages is the appropriate way forward. Otherwise, this behavior can be considered a violation of Wikipedia's guidelines on editor conduct.
Again, I can only suggest you start an RfC about the general format of the ledes of the visa requirement articles. Based on the outcome of that discussion, we can then work together to implement any agreed-upon changes across the article set.--Twofortnights (talk) 12:29, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Visa

Sorry but an "e-Visa" is more precise than just a "visa". In visa requirements terminology, when we see the category "visa required", it means visa in advance at a diplomatic mission (countries like Algeria, China, Sudan or Turkmenistan). Otherwise it is written "e-Visa", "visa on arrival" or "visa-free" (or something else). 109.164.195.131 (talk) 20:57, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand where you're coming from with the distinction between "visa" and "e-Visa." However, it's important to clarify that the term "visa" is a broad category that encompasses all types of entry permissions, including those that can be obtained electronically (e-Visas), on arrival, or through traditional diplomatic missions.
An e-Visa is indeed a specific method of obtaining a visa, but it falls under the broader category of visas. When we use the term "visa required," it generally refers to the need for a visa of any kind before entering a country, whether that visa is obtained electronically, on arrival, or through other means.
Therefore, using the term "visa" is accurate and comprehensive because it includes all the methods by which a visa can be obtained, including e-Visas. Referring to it as simply "visa required" correctly covers all possibilities and avoids unnecessary confusion or specificity in contexts where the method of obtaining the visa is not the primary concern.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:09, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 2024

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Undoing my edits

@Twofortnights Hi, why did you undo my edits on the Visa policy of Argentina article? I updated Albania and Moldova as these are the two countries in Europe that Argentina requires visas for them, but they are in negotiations process with Argentina and Argentina will soon remove visas with Albania and Moldova. So, I need to update again this article with this information. Like all the other European countries enjoy free travel to Argentina, including the countries that aren't part of EU but candatate countries (Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, North Macedonia and Serbia) also Albania will remove visas with Argentina. Is the Albanian's right to travel without visa to Argentina, as Albania is one of the oldest countries in the world with a rich history, culture and society. Thanks Hi Mzeka95. (talk) 21:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mzeka95. I undid your edits because they were not supported by any sources. For changes to be made to Wikipedia, especially concerning visa policies, it's crucial to provide reliable, verifiable references. Without proper citations, it's difficult to verify the accuracy of the information and ensure that it meets Wikipedia's standards for verifiability. If you have reliable sources indicating that Albania and Moldova are indeed in negotiations with Argentina to remove visa requirements, please include those sources in your update. You can add references from official government statements or reputable news outlets. Feel free to make your edits again once you have the necessary citations. If you need help with formatting citations or finding appropriate sources, let me know! --Twofortnights (talk) 22:35, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion for confusing info

Hi, @Twofortnights, I wanted to discuss about the issue of visas of the state of Iraq. I made some changes to the map of visa requests for citizens of Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Montenegro, but I am not sure if they are correct. (I believe that the information provided by others in Serbia and North Macedonia must be incorrect) From the information I read, there are visas on arrival and e-visas for the Kurdistan region in Iraq, which is not related to the visas of the Iraqi state, which is based in Baghdad. And the Iraqi government based in Baghdad does not say about visas on arrival or e-visas for the countries of the Western Balkans?! So there is some confusion about this. The title in the forum is the visa policy of Iraq and not the visa policy of the Kurdistan region in Iraq! Brizton (talk) 21:33, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Brizton. Thank you. I think the point here is that the region of Iraq called Kurdistan Region has its own visa policy. But from what I can see, there is no mention on the Visa policy of Iraq that the countries which you mention are eligible for visa on arrival in either Baghdad or Kurdistan? As for the Kurdistan eVisa, when I opened the eVisa portal eligibility checker it shows me the same information for almost all countries. Does that mean that almost all countries are now eligible for eVisa? For only a few countries it shows "No data is available" (Iran, Turkey, Lebanon) also a few countries are not listed (Afghanistan, Nigeria, Yemen).--Twofortnights (talk) 21:11, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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