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Church/Cathedral articles with potentially unnecessary disambiguation

Is there any reason that any of the following can not be moved to their currently redlinked base page titles? Cheers! BD2412 T 02:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Catedral Santiago Apóstol → Catedral Santiago Apóstol (Fajardo, Puerto Rico)
• Cathedral Basilica of St. James → Cathedral Basilica of St. James (Brooklyn)
• Cathedral Church of St. James → Cathedral Church of St. James (Toronto)
• Cathedral of Mary of the Assumption → Cathedral of Mary of the Assumption (Saginaw, Michigan)
• Cathedral of Our Lady of Walsingham → Cathedral of Our Lady of Walsingham (Houston)
• Cathedral of the Holy Angels → Cathedral of the Holy Angels (Gary, Indiana)
• Cathedral of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus → Cathedral of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus (Knoxville, Tennessee)
• Catherine Called Birdy → Catherine Called Birdy (film)
• Catholic Church of Our Lady → Catholic Church of Our Lady (Aarhus)
• Christ's Church Cathedral → Christ's Church Cathedral (Hamilton, Ontario)
• Church of Prophet Elijah → Church of Prophet Elijah (Thessaloniki)
• Church of St. Mary of the Spring → Church of St. Mary of the Spring (Istanbul)
• Church of the Transfiguration, Episcopal → Church of the Transfiguration, Episcopal (Manhattan)
• City Methodist Church → City Methodist Church (Gary, Indiana)
• Conwal Parish Church → Conwal Parish Church (Church of Ireland)
• Episcopal Cathedral of Saint Philip → Episcopal Cathedral of Saint Philip (Atlanta)
• Evangelical Church of Egypt → Evangelical Church of Egypt (Synod of the Nile)
• Gillfield Baptist Church → Gillfield Baptist Church (Petersburg, Virginia)
• Holy Family Old Cathedral → Holy Family Old Cathedral (Anchorage, Alaska)
• Holy Name of Mary Pro-Cathedral → Holy Name of Mary Pro-Cathedral (Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan)
• Holy Rosary Parish Church → Holy Rosary Parish Church (Angeles City)
• Lutheran Church of the Ascension → Lutheran Church of the Ascension (Savannah, Georgia)
• New South Church → New South Church (Boston, Massachusetts)
• Nineteenth Street Baptist Church → Nineteenth Street Baptist Church (Washington, D.C.)
• North Strand Church → North Strand Church (Church of Ireland)
• Old Whaler's Church → Old Whaler's Church (Sag Harbor)
• Saint Andrews African Methodist Episcopal Church → Saint Andrews African Methodist Episcopal Church (Sacramento, California)
• Saint Francis de Sales Cathedral → Saint Francis de Sales Cathedral (Baker City, Oregon)
• St. Augustine's Episcopal Church → St. Augustine's Episcopal Church (Gary, Indiana)
• St. Augustine's Monastery → St. Augustine's Monastery (Erfurt)
• St. Benedict Cathedral → St. Benedict Cathedral (Evansville, Indiana)
• St. Benedict the Moor Church → St. Benedict the Moor Church (New York City)
• St. Columba Cathedral → St. Columba Cathedral (Youngstown, Ohio)
• St. Eugenia's Church → St. Eugenia's Church (Stockholm)
• St. John Cantius Church → St. John Cantius Church (Chicago)
• St. John's Wilmot Church → St. John's Wilmot Church (New Rochelle, New York)
• St. Joseph Co-Cathedral → St. Joseph Co-Cathedral (Thibodaux, Louisiana)
• St. Mary of Blachernae Church → St. Mary of Blachernae Church (Berat)
• St. Matthew's United Church → St. Matthew's United Church (Halifax, Nova Scotia)
• St. Mary, Our Lady of Mount Carmel Cathedral → St. Mary, Our Lady of Mount Carmel Cathedral (Gaylord, Michigan)
• St. Michael's Cathedral Basilica → St. Michael's Cathedral Basilica (Toronto)
• St. Monica Catholic Church → St. Monica Catholic Church (Santa Monica, California)
• St. Nicholas of Myra Church → St. Nicholas of Myra Church (Manhattan)
• St. Takla Haymanot's Church → St. Takla Haymanot's Church (Alexandria)
• St. Thomas's Anglican Church → St. Thomas's Anglican Church (Toronto)
• Ste. Marie Church → Ste. Marie Church (Manchester, New Hampshire)

Yes! I'm sure many of these are highly ambiguous, especially allowing for different languages and styles (Saint vs St. etc)! For example the Church of St. Mary of Blachernae was a very important historical church in Constantinople (not so much left now). As the article says, the Albanian St. Mary of Blachernae Church (Berat) was named after it. We have a disam page for Cathedral Basilica of St James the Apostle, which stupidly doesn't mention what is by far the most famous one - Santiago de Compostela Cathedral. That alone makes Catedral Santiago Apóstol, Catedral Santiago Apóstol, Cathedral Basilica of St. James also ambiguous. Please DON'T make any changes without careful research. Johnbod (talk) 02:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnbod: That's why I'm asking the question. BD2412 T 02:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you have your answer. Johnbod (talk) 02:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

St Augustine's Abbey (disambiguation) is another long page, to which St. Augustine's Monastery should redirect. Most of these, outside North America at least, should be using "Saint" not the American "St.", & if you want something useful to do there's are lots of redirects & disam work needed. Johnbod (talk) 02:54, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that there should be more standardisation to "Saint" in the names of churches which don't have WP:STRONGTIES to a particular English-speaking country. It would also be helpful if the titles of disambiguation pages had "Saint" as the default, with the "St." and "St" variants redirecting there as a matter of course.

Regarding the base page titles in the list above, I think the following ones should redirect to disambiguation pages (not all of which may have the best titles at the moment):

• Catedral Santiago Apóstol and Cathedral Church of St. James – redirect to Cathedral of Saint James
• Cathedral Basilica of St. James – redirect to Cathedral Basilica of Saint James
• Cathedral of Mary of the Assumption – redirect to Cathedral of Saint Mary of the Assumption
• Cathedral of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus – redirect to Sacred Heart Cathedral
• Catholic Church of Our Lady – redirect to Church of Our Lady
• Christ's Church Cathedral – possibly redirect to Christ Church Cathedral
• Holy Rosary Parish Church – redirect to Holy Rosary Church
• Saint Francis de Sales Cathedral – redirect to Cathedral of Saint Francis de Sales
• St. Benedict the Moor Church – redirect to Church of Saint Benedict the Moor
• St. John Cantius Church – possibly create a new Church of Saint John Cantius disambiguation page, as there are two of these with articles
• St. Mary, Our Lady of Mount Carmel Cathedral – redirect to Our Lady of Mount Carmel Cathedral
• St. Michael's Cathedral Basilica – possibly redirect to Cathedral of Saint Michael
• St. Monica Catholic Church – redirect to Saint Monica's Church
• St. Nicholas of Myra Church – redirect to Saint Nicholas Church
• St. Thomas's Anglican Church – possibly redirect to Saint Thomas Church
• Ste. Marie Church – possibly redirect to Saint Mary's Church

Ham II (talk) 06:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - this all seems sensible. Johnbod (talk) 15:39, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would certainly encourage the creation of redirects to disambiguation pages wherever appropriate, so that these redlinks are not mistaken by other editors for unoccupied base page names to which disambiguated titles should be moved. BD2412 T 23:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There appear to be multiple cathedrals of St. James, cathedrals of St. Mary, etc, in this list. The full names for the articles (with city/country addre) are appropriate to avoid ambiguity as to which cathedral/basilica is being referenced in an article. –Zfish118^⋉talk 15:19, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edits to OneHope Pages

HI Team, We have been trying to update on OneHope Wiki Pages but have received pushback because of the Evangelical nature of the business. Do you have any advice on how to get the updates made and approved?

Here is the current page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:X/OneHope

I have currently put in a request for a portion to be edited via the talk page but the notice I received said it could take 160+ days. We are hoping that someone can help us move this forward quicker. Aimeeluongo (talk) 14:40, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Philippine Senate hearing on the Kingdom of Jesus Christ#Requested move 25 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Philippine Senate hearing on the Kingdom of Jesus Christ#Requested move 25 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. HueMan1 (talk) 14:20, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

John Dowling (pastor)

Article probably needs some substantial copyediting for encyclopedic tone and more modern sources if anyone has access to any. The subject, a 19th century Baptist minister, is almost certainly notable if for no other reason due to his authorship of one of the more widely read and quoted polemically anti-Catholic works from that era. However much of the sourcing is dated, and in at least one instance of doubtful reliability. The language sounds like it was taken directly from one or more of those old sources and seems less than nuetral in its tone. I have tagged the article. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:57, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A quick followup, we don't have an article on his principal work, The History of Romanism: from the Earliest Corruptions of Christianity to the Present Time(1), but we probably should. It was a very prominent and widely quoted book in its time and I would be surprised if it did not meet our guidelines for notability. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:List of New Testament minuscules (2001–)#Requested move 22 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:List of New Testament minuscules (2001–)#Requested move 22 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Reading of Beans 06:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Genesis creation narrative

There is currently a discussion going on at Genesis creation narrative about the inclusion of 'traditional' views in the text; additional input would be most welcome. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 17:59, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Kingdom of Jesus Christ compound standoff#Requested move 1 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Kingdom of Jesus Christ compound standoff#Requested move 1 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. HueMan1 (talk) 22:53, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]