Talk:Classy 101

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Classy 101/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Pollosito (talk · contribs) 23:59, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: AskeeaeWiki (talk · contribs) 05:39, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since you reviewed my article for "I Feel It Coming", it is time for me to repay the favor. I'l review the article, but unlike my last review (Dancing's Done), I'll take the time for each section. I assume you are asleep at this time, so I'll be reading over this article back to back as I continue my normal Wikipedia editing. 𝘮𝘪𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘦𝘭'𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘮𝘦𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘺, 05:39, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @AskeeaeWiki.

Very thanks for this. You didn't have to return the favor, but seriously, thank you very much. I will be aware of every observation you make here. I'm so happy to improve this article about a song that has become very popular in Colombia! Now it's not just for twerking, but to improve Wikipedia! LOL Santi (talk) 17:00, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

• The lead is generally written well, but the infobox states the song was released on March 30, 2023, but the lead contradicts this, saying it was released on May 31. From what the sources in the other sections say, "Classy 101" was released on March 30, 2023.

   Not done for now, there is a source conflict.

  I understand, we can put this off until the final section is done.

• Just trim the word "finally" in the first paragraph's final sentence:
  • It was finally included in Ferxxocalipsis on December 1 after the release of his sixth studio album, Mor, No Le Temas a la Oscuridad.

   Done

• It has been included on two critics' rankings which contain reviews praising the chorus' infectious sound. —> Music critics praised the song for its vocals and overall sound. If you want, you can combine this with the previous sentence.

   Done

• The music video, directed by Deathofgian, was released via YouTube with the single release, where portrays a couple in love riding a motorcycle and shows Miko and Villada singing along the song in different scenarios. ——> A music video for the song premiered alongside its release. Directed by Deathofgian, it portrays a couple in love riding a motorcycle and shows Miko and Villada singing along to the song in different scenarios.

   Done Maybe it should be modified later because, out of stupidity, I thought that the synopsis should not be verificated with sources

• I know "the" isn't a part of the tour name, but I'd suggest adding it, for "the Trap Kitty World Tour". I was going to suggest it for Los 40, but I remembered my level 0.5 Spanish and that Los is literally the LOL.

   Done

Background

• Authorship for reference 4 (Natalia Díaz)

   Done

• "...album, Trap Kitty, which includes "Riri" and "Lisa", songs that went viral through TikTok." —> "...album, Trap Kitty. It included the songs "Riri" and "Lisa", which went viral through TikTok."

   Done

• "...According to an interview with El Hormiguero, Miko initially composed..." —> "...In an interview with El Hormiguero, Miko stated that she initially composed..."

   Done

• "where she met Salomón Villada." Wikilink or add, (Feid) after Villada's name.

   Done

• Was able to find the English version of the Billboard Hot 100 reference in the reception tab, it states the song was released March 30.

   Done

Composition and reception

• This section is pretty much perfect, for now, no need to add anything more. If you ever plan to go for an FA someday, you could search the internet for more. Passed

Music video

• From what I understand, Synopses don't need sources (MOS:SYNOPSIS, and We Can't Be Friends (Wait for Your Love)), but it'd be great if you could find sources. I would assume most sources will be in Spanish. If you can't find anything, that's fine.

   Not done I'm glad to know that no referencing is needed. I can see, for example, in Anti-Hero that only the found easter eggs and cast should be referenced. No media found an easter egg, so no need to search further, because I didn't find any source that talks deeply about the video.

Live performances and usgae

• Overall, very good. I suggest adding "the" before the tour name though. I think this is it, its time for the non-word sections.

   Done

Accolades

• Passed

Credits and personnel

• Passed, there are credits for Apple Music, however you do NOT need to add this, as it doesn't have all the information disclosed in the liner notes

   Comment: They are the same credits. Only in the writing they put the real names of the artists involved. Santi (talk) 03:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Charts

• Passed

Certifications

• Passed

Release history

• Passed

Final comment

• After careful reviewing, good job! Congratulations on your first GA article! Just make adjustments to any dates stating the song was released on May 31, Spotify and Apple Music support the date of March 31.

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 16:58, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• ... that the Puerto Rican singer Young Miko initially composed "Classy 101" in Los Angeles and met the Colombian singer Feid by surprise there? Source: Antena3
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I'm not sure if this is an interesting fact, but at least I'm trying.

Improved to Good Article status by Pollosito (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Santi (talk) 21:25, 11 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Not a review, and I do my QPQs oldest first so I wouldn't get to this any time soon; you should consider integrating where Miko and Feid are from into the hook for interest purposes. Los Angeles is pretty big, it's not unusual for two people to meet there.--Launchballer 21:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks for at least suggesting something, I'm a little nervous. I have already incorporated the suggested information; If another source is required, I will put it in, but at the moment I won't because DYKs usually only have one. I don't know if it's appropriate, but I hope you can move forward and get the help you need to find the healing you so desperately seek. I wish you success in everything you do, because I see that you are very good. Santi (talk) 21:17, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I forgot one more thing. I put this hook because in the interview given as a source Miko reveals that she was a big fan of Feid, so with this I concluded that it could be interesting. Santi (talk) 21:19, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I would suggest something like ALT1: ... that the Puerto Rican singer Young Miko featured the Colombian singer Feid on her single "Classy 101" after a chance meeting in Los Angeles?--Launchballer 16:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New hooks are proposed with new ALTs, previously existing hooks should not be altered.--Launchballer 18:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I have no more suggestions. So, I'll wait for another review (the template you used points that out) to improve. Anyway, thanks for reviewing and clarifying the process. Santi (talk) 18:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the oldest fully unreviewed nom and I need a QPQ, so I'm reviewing. Long enough, new enough. No neutrality issues found, no maintenance templates found, Earwig's nice and quiet. I should note for posterity that WP:UPSD whinges about refs #2 and #15 and that WP:RSP says WP:ROLLINGSTONE is generally reliable for culture matters. I proposed ALT1, so new reviewer needed to check it.--Launchballer 19:21, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: Thanks for review. Don't worry so much about what the bot tells you. Sometimes it makes mistakes, as does the Copyvios plagiarism detector (look what happened in the GA review of You're Losing Me). The context matters more than certain literal rules. Santi (talk) 16:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: Is this approved? If not, what needs to happen to get this approved? Z1720 (talk) 13:49, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My ALT1 needs approving.--Launchballer 13:50, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• @Pollosito: Congratulations on the GA - impressive for an editor with only 784 edits. I have a few issues we need to sort out but first, please use edit summaries (see H:FIES). It looks like you use them occasionally but even when you do many are not descriptive. A review of this nomination, Earwig does not alert to copyright issues. The article is not overly promotional and the prose is readable and neutral. I added "image has rationale=yes" to your album cover upload.
  Is this correct? Because I do not find this in the translated source, the process "came out supernatural". Note that supernatural has a different meaning than the intended when used as a compound word. Also "it was very easy to flow with him" - are these in the foreign language video which I see in citation 5 because I do not find them in the translated text of that citation. For @Launchballer:'s ALT we need to establish that this was a chance meeting because in our article we only state that she had no contact with him prior to the collaboration. But this hook also relates the the above concern: the hook is not supported by the end of sentence hook citation in our article as citation 5 does not state these things. Bruxton (talk) 15:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruxton: Do I really need to describe every edit I make? I find that very tiring in itself, but it's okay. All information in ref 5 is based solely on the video, never from the translated text. So I put sic? Regarding what you said to Launchballer, I think common sense should be used more, because, if we put it as the article says, surely the hook will exceed the number of characters allowed. Santi (talk) 16:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pollosito: If you are questioning the edit summary note, it is not my requirement but I referred you to the guide H:FIES. I pulled out the relevant passage in case you did not know how to access it:

According to the consensus policy, all edits should be explained (unless the reason for them is obvious)—either by clear edit summaries, or by discussion on the associated talk page.

but that is unrelated to this nomination.

I examined and tried to verify the hook: according to our article I think you may have made assumptions about a "chance meeting". We cannot assume especially for a main page appearance. Additionally at present struggling with why you put this in your comments above: I don't know if it's appropriate, but I hope you can move forward and get the help you need to find the healing you so desperately seek. I wish you success in everything you do, because I see that you are very good. What is that about? Launchballer made no reference to struggling of seeking help. Bruxton (talk) 17:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruxton: I'm sorry if I committed any serious offense with that comment. I simply looked at the user's talk page and felt it was appropriate to try to give him comfort. Regarding the hook, let me examine it one more time because then I have no more ideas, I'm sorry for how raw I am with DYK. Santi (talk) 15:58, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pollosito: Change supernatural to "super-natural" and either modify the hook so that it matches our article and the source or present a new one. WP:DYKHOOK

...citations in the article that are used to support the hook fact must verify the hook and be reliable. The wording of the article, hook, and source should all agree with each other with respect to who is providing the information – if the source is not willing to the say the fact in its own voice, the hook should attribute back to the original source as well.

Bruxton (talk) 19:29, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruxton: After examining the article a bit, I propose another alt:
ALT2: that the Puerto Rican singer Young Miko initially composed "Classy 101" in Los Angeles and met the Colombian singer Feid there, having not composed for him nor having had there been any contact with him before?
I hope that's correct. If not, I have information about the entry to the Billboard Hot 100, but I guess it is much less relevant. Santi (talk) 16:36, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's 210 characters.--Launchballer 16:47, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3: that the Puerto Rican singer Young Miko initially composed "Classy 101" in Los Angeles and met the Colombian singer Feid there, without having had any contact with him before?
And this one? This is the most harmonious hook with the prose and source for my consideration. Santi (talk) 17:04, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I suspect that ALT3 will need to be reworded, I will tweak it Bruxton (talk) 22:31, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• ALT3a: ... that Puerto Rican singer Young Miko composed "Classy 101" in Los Angeles and had never met Colombian singer Feid before he recorded the song with her?