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Question from MBAMom01 (23:46, 30 May 2024)

how do I add Donald "Butch" Rolle former Buffalo Bills player to the ex football players with Phd degrees. He earned his PhD degree in 2024 and pulished. How can I submit the information? --MBAMom01 (talk) 23:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MBAMom01 What specific page would you like to add this information to? Mach61 23:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cindy Scott

Thank you so much for getting the Cindy Scott page approved so quickly. It is my first ever attempt at a complete Wiki article. It is a great gift that you are helping with this amazing resource.

You tagged the article with "Some of this article's listed sources may not be reliable." I looked at the source code, and I do not see that any specific sources have been flagged. Is there a way to find out what particularly may be problematic, or are you just making sure that I pondered it all enough?

I'm looking forward to getting some other unrepresented New Orleans affiliated artists on WIKI and I appreciate you wisdom and support. JazzWikiWriter (talk) 20:17, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JazzWikiWriter Discogs.com is an unreliable source, as the content on that site is user generated. In fairness, though, that appears to be the only source used in the article which is outright unreliable. I have replaced the banner tag with inline tags for the two Discogs citations in the article. Cheers, Mach61 10:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for your rapid and clear assistance. JazzWikiWriter (talk) 16:35, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miguel and the Living Dead - new article

Hi,

I removed discogs as biographical sources. I removed source You Tube. In some places in the text, Discogs was used only as a source of records and bands in which the musicians played and play, and as a source of labels. The article in Polish Wikipedia has been available since 2007 https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mach61/Miguel_and_the_Living_Dead MKutera74 (talk) 21:42, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

This is not a young band, because it was founded in 2001. He is quite recognizable in the areas of independent music with the aesthetics of gothic rock, post punk, death rock and psychobilly. There is no distortion of reality or facts about the band. This is objective information. In this matter, if there are any doubts, I advise you to consult your knowledge and competences with a good expert in the above-mentioned musical aesthetics. He will only confirm that this is not an amateur band, but one that already has a successful musical career. Please find out which bands MATLD played together at concerts and festivals, e.g. New Model Army, Sex Gang Children, The Damned, Clan Of Xymox, The Last Days Of Jesus, Combichrist, Deine Lakaien, Phantom Limbs, Lacrimosa, Nitzer Ebb, Samael, Theatre Of Tragedy, VNV Nation, The Legendary Pink Dots, Suicide Commando, Diary of Dreams, Front Line Assembly, She Past Away, XIII. Století, Lacuna Coil, Blutengel, Me And That Man, Section 25, Corpus Delicti. These are well-known bands in this music and music-related area. The concerts are supported by reliable sources in the article.

According to Wikipedia's rules, the team meets the requirements for publication.

1. Was the subject of many music articles (Polish and foreign) in professional magazines: Zillo, Orkus, Teraz Rock, Machina, Noise Magazine. This is confirmed by the sources in the article.

2. Is a niche band, so it certainly wasn't played on big music charts, but it was played on Polish Radio "Trójka" (for example, songs: Night of Terror and Bonehead) and Radiostacja. His songs are listed on last.fm (if that matters)

3. Has not yet been certified gold, but many bands on the wiki do not have such a status

4. Some concert reports are described on the Internet and in paper journals: Zillo, Orkus, Machina, Teraz Rock, Noise Magazine (mentioned above). The German-language Orkus is one of the most important and best music magazines of this aesthetic in the world.

5. Released two full-length albums, on two independent labels with several years of experience. The first German-Austrian, the second Polish. Several good bands released on Strobelight records: All Gone Dead, Frank the Baptist, Pink Turns Blue, The Last Days Of Jesus, Sleeping Children. The Noise Annoys label mainly releases albums by Polish bands, very popular on the Polish market, but also foreign ones (mainly punk rock aesthetics): TZN Xenna, One Milion Bulgarians, Apteka, Deuter, Variété, U.K. Subs. After several years on the music market, Strobelight Records ceased operations for unknown reasons. Noise Annoys has evolved into a record label and concert organizer [1][1]. Bands whose albums are released by Bat-Cave Productions are also presented: Dezerter, 1984, Wieże Fabryk, One Milion Bulgarians, Totem (see Polish wikipedia), Rozz Williams, Screaming Dead.

6. It is a band consisting of two ambitious, talented musicians who played in other famous bands: Pete - Devilish Presley, Klaus - TZN Xenna, One Million Bulgarians (see Polish wikipedia).

7. He is one of the important representatives of this aesthetic in Europe after 2000, and when it comes to Poland, there is no band apart from MATLD that would play post punk, goth rock, horror punk, deathrock, psychobilly at the same time (they write about it in Zillo, Orkus, Machina, Noise Magazine). Yes, there are several famous bands, but they play classic goth rock combined with gothic metal or dark wave, among others: Closterkeller, Deathcamp Project etc (see polish wikipedia).

8. Was nominated for an award at the Polish concert in Jarocin in 2006, but only won an honorable mention due to the fact that the lyrics were only in English (there is a source confirming this).

9. In total as above. It was certainly appreciated at the largest festival in Europe, Castle Party in Bolków. He played there twice. It's strange that there is no article about this festival on the English-language Wikipedia!

10. This team was not in the media. Only brief mentions of festivals on regional television and concerts in various countries. This will be difficult to verify.

11. It was thanks to Noise Annoys in Poland, the band was played on Polish radio "Trójka", "Radiostacja" and was the subject of music articles in Teraz Rock and Noise Magazine. Thanks to Strobelight Records, he gained attention mainly in German popular music magazines (Zillo and Orkus).

12. Miguel and the Living Dead only appeared on a few Polish radio programs Trójka and Radiostacja. He didn't appear on TV programs, apart from short interviews covering music festivals (in Polish and English).

I'm also adding information from discogs, because it is a very reliable source, especially when it comes to the line-up, connections, albums, etc. Please see Carcass, discogs is also quoted there. Many concert materials are available on You Tube, but I decided not to quote them.

I have practically all photocopies of paper music articles (Zillo, Orkus, Noise Magazine, Teraz Rock). I can send.

Please approach the article substantively in these musical areas, objectively and seriously. Please also appreciate my contribution. MKutera74 (talk) 17:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MKutera74 You appear to have applied every single criterion at WP:NBAND to the draft subject, which is unnecessary; the vast majority of bands with Wikipedia articles only meet the first criterion (has sources discussing them). Meeting multiple criterions is not the common standard.
Please wait for another reviewer to approve or decline the draft, since I don't do re-reviews on demand. I see you have worked on the draft since I declined it, which is promising. Mach61 12:09, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award

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Question from Iamzlatkom (23:10, 19 June 2024)

Hi Mach61, my name is Zlatko Mulaibrahimovic and I would like to write a brand new article for publication on Wikipedia. I’ve studied and finished Political Science and Mass Communication for my undergraduate degrees. My master’s degree an IMBA (International Master of Business Administration) I completed in 2017 the major being International Business and specialization in Social Media Marketing. I wrote a children’s book which is available for purchase online at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Walmart and a few other places. The title of that book is Adventures of TokijoCat a Cat Writer by Zlatko Mulaibrahimovic. I would like your guidance in what would be the best topic of my first Wikipedia article and any tips and trick you can offer as a mentor to me. All the best and hope to hear from you soon.

Sincerely, Zlatko Mulaibrahimovic BA, IMBA, TEFL/TESOL, EUROLTA/NLP Chairman, CEO and Founder Treasure Media Publishing LLC --Iamzlatkom (talk) 23:10, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Iamzlatkom Hi, Zlatko. For general advice on how to start writing on Wikipedia, see Help:Your first article. On the specific question of picking a topic, I have the following advice:
  1. Make sure that the subject meets our inclusion requirements, which are summarized at WP:42. In short, we require that article subjects have been covered in length by trustworthy sources (news websites, documentaries etc.) that are independent of them. If, after looking for such sources, you cannot find them, you will have to give up on writing an article about that subject, because it will never be accepted.
  2. Find a subject you are passionate and know a lot about about. You'll be more confident in your writing that way
  3. Please do not write an article about yourself, or an entity you have a conflict of interest with. Those are almost never accepted.
Mach61 01:39, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Very well and straightforwardly said. Thank your instructions and I will make sure to follow your advice. Hope to talk soon mentor Mach61. Iamzlatkom (talk) 03:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from CalebMasonAuthor (12:25, 22 June 2024)

Hi and nice to meet you. I, too, am a jazz lover and play jazz piano. My son Will Mason (Will Mason Music) is a well-known composer and music professor at Wheaton College. His compositions are pretty far out there but he has been well reviewed for his avant garde music. Take care and as I am new I will probably need some help. --CalebMasonAuthor (talk) 12:25, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CalebMasonAuthor. Please note that Wikipedia officially discourages creating articles if you have a conflict of interest (in this case, familial ties) with the subject of the article. However, if you are to do so anyways I would recommend that you read Help:Your first article for advice. As someone with a conflict of interest, you will have to submit the article using the WP:Articles for creation process. Mach61 22:10, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. 67.253.22.72 (talk) 22:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Joel Ross (vibraphonist)

On 7 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Joel Ross (vibraphonist), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that professional vibraphonist Joel Ross has called the vibraphone his "least favorite instrument"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Joel Ross (vibraphonist). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Joel Ross (vibraphonist)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Rich Thompson (drummer)

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Question from UPANDDOWNGARAGEDOORS (07:06, 20 July 2024)

Hello --UPANDDOWNGARAGEDOORS (talk) 07:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@UPANDDOWNGARAGEDOORS Do you have a question you would like me to answer? Mach61 10:44, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Factfancapricorn (17:02, 23 July 2024)

Hi. Firstly, thank you for your assistance. I am new, but would like to start a wiki page on behalf of someone. How do I go about doing this? Is there a template I can use? --Factfancapricorn (talk) 17:02, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Factfancapricorn, I would strongly recommend you not write a page about someone who asks you to, as you will have a conflict of interest with them, and they may not meet our inclusion criteria for people. Mach61 19:06, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Sohel Kader on User:Sohel Kader/sandbox (11:44, 26 July 2024)

How can i upload photos --Sohel Kader (talk) 11:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sohel Kader You may use the WP:File upload wizard to do so, although the specifics depend on what specific image you would like to upload, and for what purpose. Mach61 11:51, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Sixsync (16:29, 5 August 2024)

how can i find error in wiki article so that i can help fixing it --Sixsync (talk) 16:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sixsync You can find tasks to do at Wikipedia:Task Center. I would recommend you stick to the activities rated. "suitable for all editors". Cheers, Mach61 17:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Jesuspaul502 (05:07, 8 August 2024)

Hi, I am a beginner. Which kind of pages should I edit and which kind of pages should I avoid? --Jesuspaul502 (talk) 05:07, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jesuspaul502, apologies for the late response. For the most part, it is usually possible for any user, even a very new one, to make a positive contribution to any given page. What matters more is what type of contribution is made; anyone can correct a misspelling, but successfully creating a new article entirely usually takes some experience. Available tasks for editors can be found at WP:Task center, and I would recommend you stick to the activities rated "suitable for all editors". Mach61 00:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from フレイム030 (18:31, 12 August 2024)

Hi! I'm really new to editing and stuff so how do I add a link? --フレイム030 (talk) 18:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@フレイム030 You can link a term by surrounding it in double square brackets. So, for example, to add a link to "Lebron James", type [[Lebron James]], which produces "Lebron James". More information can be found at Help:Link Mach61 18:59, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok.. Thanks! フレイム030 (talk) 18:18, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Frtgreenhills (18:44, 15 August 2024)

Hi, I do not necessarily want to edit an article myself, but I believe more context and information needs to be added to in a wiki page I viewed recently. I read a completely whitewashed page about an individual I have learned more info about over time that failed to present who this person was. How can more context be added to this page of this individual? To provide readers like myself more information about this person. --Frtgreenhills (talk) 18:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Frtgreenhills Could you tell me what specific page it is you believe needs more information? Anyhow, if you do not wish to edit an article yourself, you can add a section the talk page of that article with your complaint. Seeing as you claim this page to be completely whitewashed, a post on the neutral point of view/noticeboard may also be justified. Do note that all infortmation on Wikipedia must be backed up with reliable sources, so make sure to provide them in the discussion. Cheers, Mach61 19:01, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Don't know if this is appropriate here, but I am just writing personally to say thank you for your vigilance on the Acts 2 Network page. Percurrent (talk) 16:04, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Percurrent You're welcome! Mach61 17:14, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Janita Byars

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗plicit 01:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Editor2233 (23:31, 20 August 2024)

Hi Mach! I would like to know how to change my username publicly, if you don't know that's alright.

Thanks --Editor2233 (talk) 23:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Editor2233 please read Wikipedia:Changing username. Cheers, Mach61 00:27, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you!! Editor2233 (talk) 00:33, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question regarding article state

Dear Mach61,

Thank you so much for your contribution to Photochemical action plots! You flagged that additional references were missing in the "Experimental Section", A number of citations to scientific journals have been added. It would be greatly appreciated of you could have another look at the article if any additional citations would benefit the article. Thank you so much for your help! Staugingersdisciple (talk) 19:55, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Staugingersdisciple
Do the content of the citations verify all the statements in that section, or all but a few (which can be dealt with using individual {{citation needed}} tags)? If yes, remove the banner flag. I don't feel comftorable looking at the citations myself, since I'm not familiar with any hard sciences; when I added the tag, I just knew when I added the tag that the one citation in that section probably wasn't sufficient.
P.S. as a general rule you shouldn't ask for permission to remove maintenance tags; the person who placed them there may no longer be active and regardless, there are a lot of tags that should have never been added in the first place. Cheers, Mach61 20:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for the clarification and thank you again so much for raising this in the first place. The sections has been significantly improved with the additional citations! Cheers, Staugingersdisciple Staugingersdisciple (talk) 02:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

Nomination for deletion of Template:Ambiguate

Template:Ambiguate has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Hyrogoder (12:56, 11 September 2024)

Hello how can I change photo? --Hyrogoder (talk) 12:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Hyrogoder In a given article, you can change a photo by clicking "edit" at the top of the article or a section, clicking on the photo you want changed, clicking "edit" on the pop-up there, and clicking "change image". assuming you are using the default visual editor Mach61 17:43, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Declined speedy deletion for Jonas Becker (musician)

I've declined your WP:A7 request for Jonas Becker (musician). Although not stated in the article itself, there is a link to his song The Horns (song) and that article asserts that the song charted on three charts. That's a sufficient claim of importance that this should be taken to WP:AFD if you think that article needs to be deleted. -- Whpq (talk) 17:34, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Fishbirdwordgirl (20:11, 24 September 2024)

Hi! I love jazz music! I used to play a little jazz piano myself :) Are you able to create pages right away for a subject matter that doesn't have one yet? --Fishbirdwordgirl (talk) 20:11, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Fishbirdwordgirl I can create a short stub article in under an hour. Do you have a specific subject in mind?
Do note that any article must meet our notability criteria, which mostly amount to being documented in reliable sources (newspapers, books, documentaries etc.) Mach61 20:14, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mach61thank you, I will check out the notability criteria link. Fishbirdwordgirl (talk) 20:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion in connection with Emily Roberts

Hi there, Mach61, and thanks for your interest in Emily Roberts. I see you are something of an expert on bands. I apologize for re-reviewing the article after you had unreviewed it. As I worked on minor improvements to the article, I simply thought I must have forgotten to review it when I first found in on New Page Patrol. As you can see from the review page, I do however believe she deserves her own biography, given her other achievements. Let's see how it goes. You might also be interested in looking at Abigail Morris (singer), Lizzie Mayland and Georgia Davies (musician) which were also originally created as redirects to The Last Dinner Part on 2 February 2024 and were moved by Zooz17 to article pages on 23 September. --Ipigott (talk) 09:46, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RFA2024 update: Discussion-only period now open for review

Hi there! The trial of the RfA discussion-only period passed at WP:RFA2024 has concluded, and after open discussion, the RfC is now considering whether to retain, modify, or discontinue it. You are invited to participate at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Discussion-only period. Cheers, and happy editing! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Fuller

Thanks for pointing out the mistakes. I will do my best to correct them so that the article is not deleted.--Марко Станојевић (talk) 06:33, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your revision - This page was proposed for deletion by Mach61 (talk · contribs) Latest revision as of 14:29, September 25, 2024.

History

Jordan Schmidt is a Country music songwriter. While songwriting continues to be his main priority, he also takes part in music production, plays guitar, and contributes as a backup singer on recordings. Prior to moving to Nashville, he maintained his own studio in Minneapolis and worked as a audio and mixing engineer. After he moved to TN in 2015, he started collaborating with band members of Florida Georgia Line. They suggested he focus all his energy on songwriting. After gaining recognition as a songwriter in Nashville, TN, a music fan created the Jordan Schmidt main space article in 2016.

At first, Jordan Schmidt's main space article contained all relevant details and informational tables on the main page without looking cluttered. There were preliminary discussions (see below ↓) about moving the discography section to a separate page. The decision was made to keep it on the main Jordan Schmidt page due to the lack of substantial content in the other sections.

Support split - The list of works by Jordan Schmidt takes up close to one half of the page, and should be split to a new article entitled Jordan Schmidt production discography. Thoughts? --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:31, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose No need to split as it would pretty much just leave a stub article for the artist. When that is expanded a split would be warranted. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 01:49, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

My contributions

In early 2024, I began editing the article about Jordan Schmidt. Even though he is just thirty-five, Jordan Schmidt has already written over four hundred songs. I expanded Jordan Schmidt's main page by using established patterns from Jason Aldean and Keith Urban's main space articles.

When I noticed his current main page discography section had reached the equivalent of twenty PDF pages, I moved it to a separate discography page in early 2024. Once again, I planned to use boilerplates from the Aldean and Urban discography pages to pattern the Schmidt discography page.

Besides revising existing pages and add new pages (see Schmidt family of pages), I focused on optimizing the new discography page. I decided to narrow the listing criteria in order to streamline the discography page. I only included songs that have charted well in the US, had millions of Spotify hits, RIAA statistics, etc etc. Then, while continuing the work on the discography page, the curtain came down.

COI declared

The discography page was 70% complete when an Australian editor declared I had a COI problem. Her observation was based on my friendship with Jordan Schmidt's father. She decided I could no longer work on any of the pages because I did not have a "Neutral point of view," and my style of writing was "outrageuously promotional/peacock (her spelling). After two months of working on the pages, I had to stop in July 2024.

She made substantial revisions to the main article, discography, and awards pages. One of her edits involved removing Schmidt's "List of awards and nominations received by Jordan Schmidt." She unlinked the awards page from his main page because the editor labeled the page as:

This is a list of awards and nominations; the repetition of certifications (which are already included prominently in the main article) here is puffery.

Of course, that was not true. Much of the text on the main page was removed by the same editor including references to Schmidt's past professions as a sound engineer - again, citing "puffery."

Jordan Schmidt Wikipedia pages

The Jordan Schmidt Wikipedia family consists of these pages:
WIKIPEDIA

WIKIDATA

COMMONS

Discography page

At present, the discography page is divided into five separate sections. Further explanation is needed to clarify the contents of each section. It should be noted, collaborative efforts are now the norm in songwriting and production, Thus the tables increase in size when listing credits.

Bottom line

The discography page to this date has remained unfinished.

You inquired about the Schmidt discography page, citing it for deletion, because you thought the listing was comprised of items Jordan Schmidt had only performed sound engineering. As you can see from the paragraphs above, this is not case. You set a October deadline to answer.

You then created a new page redirecting all Jordan Schmidt discography requests back to the main article discography section. This section on the main page displays only RIAA links. These RIAA links were eventually going to be incorporated into individual song items listed on the discography page. As it stands now, does not make much sense.

In my opinion, you should restore the Schmidt discography page, relink it to the main page. If you still have heartburn because of the table listings of "Jamestown Story" (Incidentally Jordan Schmidt's brother Dane) and his "Alternative" music contributions - delete them. Another alternative is - you can give me permission and I will delete the two questionable tables

If you still object to rolling-back your changes, could we place this for a vote by the Wikipedia community. Please let me know what you think.

Michael Jannetta (talk) 16:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mtjannetta Sorry for the two-day response delay (but also if you shortened your message I probably would have replied faster)
Re: You set a October deadline to answer, I didn't, if you're talking about the proposed deletion tag; anyone can remove such a tag without discussion, even the article creator, which would have prevented deletion
Re deletion and redirection in general: Look, the list had a lot of problems beyond just including records engineered (I never said the list only included that). A non exhaustive list of problems:
  1. Inconsistencies in the tables: why are songs written and/or produced included in the 2016-2020 section but not the 2021-2024 section? Why doesn't the 2006-2015 section note any specifics beyond the artist and year at all? I know you said the list was "unfinished", but for a page made up of tables you could and should have at least included all the relevant columns in all sections from the start and left some cells empty.
  2. Irrelevant details: Spotify streams shouldn't be included at all; it's one streaming service out of many, and Wikipedia content should be relevant long-term, so constantly fluxuating details like streaming numbers should be omitted.
  3. Weird sectioning: Why were these specific year ranges chosen? Other production discographies either give every year an L2 heading (e.g. Q-Tip production discography or doesn't section by time at all (e.g. Glen Ballard production discography).
It is, of course, your right to undo my unilateral redirection, but if you do so I will probably start a discussion to have it re-redirected for the above reasons. Mach61 20:14, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


I'm His, He's Mine

The redirect has been deleted.©Geni (talk) 17:35, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]