Talk:Eddie Gossage

Craig Gossage

The following was originally posted to Talk:Eddie Gossage/GA1, where it doesn't belong. I'm copying it here.

WP:BIODELETE doesn't exactly speak to this issue, but I'm going to WP:IAR and pretend that it does. The material in question doesn't add anything substantial to the subject's biography. RoySmith (talk) 22:59, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Eddie Gossage/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Nascar9919 (talk · contribs)

Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 05:07, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Holding to get IB Times substituted out. No other issues in my book now that copy has been cleaned up and we've decided to junk all the William Gossage images of unclear provenance. There have to be some freely available photos that could go here, though. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:12, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know? If you fancy doing so, I always have plenty of GA nominees to review. Just look for the all-uppercase titles in the Television section. Reviews always appreciated.

Copy changes

• Make your use of "numerous" less numerous (16 total uses)
  • Done?. Let me know if you want it tweaked further.
• Review your prose for redundancies.

Lead

• Hyphenate "old-school"
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Early life

• MOS:GEOCOMMA after "Nashville, Tennessee". This recurs with a few other cities in this article.
  •  Done.
• Italicize Wide World of Sports
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• No need to hyphenate "middle class" when not an adjective
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Playing as an end for Pioneer Christian, midway through his high school career he Comma after "career" to complete the appositive
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• student newspaper, The Sidelines along Comma after "Sidelines" to complete the appositive
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Business

• After getting a recommendation from fellow The Tennessean sportswriter Larry Woody I think in this case you don't need the "the", even though it's in the name of the paper, to aid the flow of the sentence
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• According to Roberts, Hodgdon was heavily disliked, with Roberts calling him "one of the biggest charlatans I had ever encountered", with both Gossage and Roberts making efforts to look for another job. Split and reword: Hodgdon was heavily disliked, according to Roberts, who called him "one of the biggest charlatans I had ever encountered"; Gossage and Roberts made efforts to look for another job.
  • Implemented. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• The next month, Gossage joined the Miller Brewing Company as the marketing communications supervisor for the company's racing program. Move this to start next para
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Gossage moved to Milwaukee, Wisconsin to work for the Miller Brewing Company. Join with the previous sentence, maybe ", based out of Milwaukee".
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• both Allison and Mike Alexander, both of which were injured in 1988 whom, not which
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Gossage worked under the president and general manager of the Charlotte Motor Speedway and longtime promoter, Humpy Wheeler throughout Remove the comma; it's essential info that shouldn't be in an appositive.
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Describing Wheeler as a person who had "nine personalities", he frequently got into heated arguments with Wheeler maybe Gossage frequently got into heated arguments with Wheeler, whom he described as having "nine personalities"
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• During a "grand opening" and the first public testing of the lights, Gossage's boss and the owner of the Charlotte Motor Speedway at the time, Bruton Smith was invited to switch Try During a "grand opening" and the first public testing of the lights, Bruton Smith—Gossage's boss and then-owner of the Charlotte Motor Speedway—was invited to switch
  •  Done, but I put commas instead of the em dashes.Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Smith later called Gossage due to the fact that Smith's friends in Hawaii had seen the incident due to the fact that the footage of the incident was sent nationwide, asking how the footage had managed to reach Hawaii. What a poorly structured sentence. Smith later called Gossage to tell him that Smith's friends in Hawaii had seen footage of the incident on television, asking him how the video spread that far.
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• A location in North Las Vegas, Nevada was considered Remember your GEOCOMMAs
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• However, afterward, Gossage was told by Smith to worry about "working for Humpy" and not Texas, to Gossage's disappointment. However, in late May, he was then suddenly offered by Smith to run the speedway, to which he accepted. Reword. Maybe While Gossage was then told by Smith to worry about "working for Humpy" and not Texas, to Gossage's disappointment, in late May, Smith suddenly offered him the job of running the speedway, which he accepted.
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• In July 1996, dates for a NASCAR Winston Cup Series race were set, with a date from the North Wilkesboro Speedway being moved to Texas; a move that saw considerable controversy, as North Wilkesboro had been a mainstay on the NASCAR schedule since NASCAR's beginning. The part after the semicolon is currently not a complete sentence. Replace "a move that saw" with "this move generated"
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• After a t-shirt printed that stated "Shut Up and Race" became a source of controversy that accused Gossage of not taking complaints seriously, he pledged to fix the turn after the race, this time with more success. Reword. Who printed the shirt? Gossage? Reword to help understanding.
  • Reworded. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• In the speedway's first couple of years, numerous music concerts were held that attracted well over 200,000 people. Maybe In its earliest years, the speedway hosted multiple large concerts. Examples beyond the ones given would be tremendously helpful.
  •  Done. Couldn't find much else within the realm of concerts; however, I can mention the NASCAR attendance of races. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 18:52, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• No need to say "Dallas, Texas"; just "Dallas" will suffice
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• The proposal never went through; although, Gossage stated new hope to host it following the Battle at Bristol in 2016. The proposal never went through, though Gossage expressed new hope to host it following the Battle at Bristol in 2016.
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• As a result of the construction of the video screen, the backstretch seating, which numbered to nearly 10,000 seats, was demolished in order to build the video screen. watch your redundant redundancies
  • Tweaked. Let me know if you want it tweaked further.Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• The Twilight section could be folded into the next up L4 header.
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• By the summer of 2020, Gossage had been in talks with Marcus Smith of whether to retire from being the president and general manager of the Texas Motor Speedway. Reword a bit. By mid-2020, Gossage was in talks with Marcus Smith as to whether to retire from being the president and general manager of the Texas Motor Speedway.
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• By early December, he stated to Smith that he would retire after working 32 years with SMI, and 25 years directing the Texas Motor Speedway Second comma is unneeded (WP:CINS)
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promotions

• By 1992, only eight iterations into the running of the event, Wheeler saw that the event needed a reinvigoration of the event, due to the event's stagnation in popularity. You say "event" four times in this sentence. By 1992, only eight iterations into the running of the event, Wheeler saw that it needed a reinvigoration, as its popularity was stagnating.
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• In October 1991, Wheeler announced the project, with seven months to complete the project. try In October 1991, Wheeler announced the project, which would be completed within seven months.
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• What does "Dream Team" have to do with Aaron's?
  • Couldn't find it. Scrapped it.Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• "edgier", not "more edgy"
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Controversies

• numerous drivers complained about the surface of the speedway when numerous accidents occurred. maybe numerous drivers complained about the surface of the speedway after a rash of accidents.
  • Implemented. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• was scheduled to a Championship Auto Racing Teams (CART) race, missing "hold"
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• put a [sic] at "gust of winds"
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Later concerns were not made about the speeds; but rather the roughness of the circuit remove semicolon
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• The way the incident was handled was widely criticized, and was viewed as a critical moment in the eventual downfall of CART. Remove comma
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Kelley Earnhardt Miller, Dale's sister, opposed the billboard, and called Gossage to replace the billboard. Try Kelley Earnhardt Miller, Dale's sister, opposed the billboard and called on Gossage to replace it.
  •  Done. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life

• two split personalities that split from his work career and his personal life. "split" twice
  • Fixed. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing and spot checks

• 12: Newspaper article on Hodgdon buying half interest. Y
• 15: Newspaper article on Gossage being appointed to run PR for Miller. Y
• 30: Announcement of Indy race at IRL. Y
• 37: AGF, offline book source. Instead reviewing
  • 38: CountryFest with estimate of 260,000 people. Y
• 40: 1999 attendance figure of 221,861. Y
• 43: Out-of-court settlement and voiding of 2002 and 2003 years on contract. Y
• 50: Announcement of "Big Hoss TV". Y
• 74: Gun celebration as recurring thing at Bristol. Y
• 75: He also said he was sensitive to the fact that NASCAR partnered with Swan Racing to run a special Sandy Hook School Support Fund paint scheme on the No. 26 car driven by Michael Waltrip in the Daytona 500 to help raise money and awareness. Y
• 79: A classic bit of Gossage promotional artistry took place in 2010, when he offered local radio personality Terry Dorsey $100,000 to change his name to TexasMotorSpeedway.com and tattoo his body with the new name. Gossage had TMS Vice President Mike Zizzo issue a press release on official track stationery detailing the offer, and later announced that the offer had been accepted. After reaping two days of national and international publicity, Gossage issued another release saying the whole thing was just a prank, and he was sorry for any trouble he might have caused. Y
• 89: France said the track must immediately correct the water seepage problems in Turn 1 that led to the postponement of qualifying Friday and the cancellation of Saturday afternoon's final practice. Y
• 92: "Gossage said he didn't know about it," France grumbled. "If he'd been working for me, I'da fired his ass. Not knowing -- and him running this goddamn place." Y
• 102: Filing of breach of contract suit. Y

Is there a better source than International Business Times [112]? I'm fine with SB Nation here because of Bianchi's pedigree as a motorsports reporter.

• Changed source to one by AL.com, which is a major (and much more reputable) news group from the state of Alabama.

Images

Priority item: William Gossage may not have had permission to release all the images he uploaded, maybe even any of them. File:Eddie Gossage announces the 2021 NASCAR All-Star Race will be held at Texas Motor Speedway.jpg is an obvious one; it contains Getty Images metadata. Others are screenshots, per EXIF metadata.

• Nascar9919 All images need their licenses checked. Some are probably crops of parts of other, copyrighted images. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:03, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK. If all else fails and although I'd hate to do it, I'll remove all the photos when necessary/if they're in violation of something. But, if there's any way to potentially have them/check them, let me know. Thank you!Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Update: just decided to remove everything. Makes it much simpler. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 18:52, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Nascar9919 There has to be an image of, say, TMS already in Commons that could be used in the TMS section. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:02, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Sammi Brie: Tried my best with what I got. Added three photos relevant to Gossage. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 05:58, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Great, will pass. Consider alt text, but it's not a GA blocker, and most of this would be "Refer to caption". Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:09, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.